Punk vs lesnar at wm30 for the wwe title?

[ChitownKnight]

How would u like that? Punk, lesnar and heyman form an alliance and team up at survivor series vs hhh and taker, wins then punk wins the rumble, and lesnar wins the wwe title. Heyman at first supports punk, but is more favoritive to lesnar telling punk that he doesn't know if he can beat lesnar starting a slow face turn. Then at the raw after elimination chamber, lesnar attacks punk and heyman sides with lesnar turning punk full on face. Then at mania u can have a no do match or something. Plus I think this match will draw huge because punk will be a huge underdog.

[Sparkybob]

I have no interest in seeing another part timer get a wwe title shot at mania.

[mrjl]

I wouldn't like it at all

[Wolf Hurricane]

I wouldn't.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

I'd rather have Cena Vs. Punk

[mizerable]

Absolutely not. While Punk can work with bigger guys, there's a point where it just looks too damn one sided. Lesnar really needs to stick to fighting guys that are jacked.

[Hit Girl]

It would look like Brock vs a toothpick, but they don't have a lot of alternative options. The problem with modern day WWE is that we see most of the top stars facing each other so often, that their only practical approach for Wrestlemania is to bring in part timers who still have a novelty factor to them. It's a problem aggrevated by WWE's inability or unwillingness to create real new stars....hey Ziggler is the champion....woo hoo.....yay.....oh he got beat a week later....oh well.....we can always bring in BATISTA!.....and so forth.

[Djm Doesn't Find You Funny]

No, thank you.

[fw91]

i would like it. A Punk/Lesnar feud would make for great tv. Assuming Heyman is heavilly invloved

[mrjl]

Apr 19, 2013 21:30:13 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

It would look like Brock vs a toothpick, but they don't have a lot of alternative options. The problem with modern day WWE is that we see most of the top stars facing each other so often, that their only practical approach for Wrestlemania is to bring in part timers who still have a novelty factor to them. It's a problem aggrevated by WWE's inability or unwillingness to create real new stars....hey Ziggler is the champion....woo hoo.....yay.....oh he got beat a week later....oh well.....we can always bring in BATISTA!.....and so forth.

If Brock vs a toothpick is a problem then how would elevating some of the guys in the midcard do anything. Most of those guys are smaller.

And WWF has always tried to use part timers/celebs. From the way his schedule seems Andre for the first three Manias was essentially a part timer. And they had Mr. T for two of them, plus football players. And in those early years for Vince they had Bruno and then Superstar Billy Graham but he got injured almost immediately after returning.

My point being this is not the side effect of a poor booking strategy. THis is the intentions of their booking strategy.

[Hit Girl]

If Brock vs a toothpick is a problem then how would elevating some of the guys in the midcard do anything. Most of those guys are smaller.

I haven't suggested elevating any of the present mid-card roster to face Brock.

And WWF has always tried to use part timers/celebs. From the way his schedule seems Andre for the first three Manias was essentially a part timer. And they had Mr. T for two of them, plus football players. And in those early years for Vince they had Bruno and then Superstar Billy Graham but he got injured almost immediately after returning.

My point being this is not the side effect of a poor booking strategy. THis is the intentions of their booking strategy.

Mr T was involved in the first two WM's, but as a part of a larger feud involving more established WWF stars, and then in a novelty match. The football players themselves were involved in a battle royal which was part of a larger card based around workers. It's a long distance from having such people in world title feuds, unless of course the Fridge was #1 contender for the WWF Championship at some point during 1986 and I missed it.

[Straight Edge Scrotum]

I'd heard rumors that Lesnar had already been earmarked to main event WM30 against the Rock. That would be my preferred outcome.

[Emmet Russell]

I'm all for it. Punk defeating Lesnar would be a great underdog story & I feel those two would have a great match together. Plus Heyman & Punk having back & forths on the mic would be amazing

[BigWill]

It's interesting how the idea of Brock vs. Bryan recieved mostly positive responses, but people now seem to think that Punk is too small to believably face Brock.

[celticjobber]

Its one of the most interesting match possibilities I can think of for Wrestlemania. Certainly better than Brock vs. Rock.

[dicecasden]

No... No... No....

A) Anything that involves anyone associated in anyway (kayfabe or real life) with Paul Heyman is not worthy of WrestleMania to begin with
B) Even though I consider him to be the second worst thing to come out of Chicago in my life time, CM Punk deserves better than pulling 'Make Brock Look Good' duty

[Wolf Hurricane]

Apr 19, 2013 23:34:32 GMT -5 Straight Edge Scrotum said:

I'd heard rumors that Lesnar had already been earmarked to main event WM30 against the Rock. That would be my preferred outcome.

Rock and Brock maineventing WrestleMania... in 2014.



I'll pass.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Apr 19, 2013 21:51:09 GMT -5 mrjl said:

Apr 19, 2013 21:30:13 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

It would look like Brock vs a toothpick, but they don't have a lot of alternative options. The problem with modern day WWE is that we see most of the top stars facing each other so often, that their only practical approach for Wrestlemania is to bring in part timers who still have a novelty factor to them. It's a problem aggrevated by WWE's inability or unwillingness to create real new stars....hey Ziggler is the champion....woo hoo.....yay.....oh he got beat a week later....oh well.....we can always bring in BATISTA!.....and so forth.

If Brock vs a toothpick is a problem then how would elevating some of the guys in the midcard do anything. Most of those guys are smaller.

And WWF has always tried to use part timers/celebs. From the way his schedule seems Andre for the first three Manias was essentially a part timer. And they had Mr. T for two of them, plus football players. And in those early years for Vince they had Bruno and then Superstar Billy Graham but he got injured almost immediately after returning.

My point being this is not the side effect of a poor booking strategy. THis is the intentions of their booking strategy.

They don't have to elevate the midcarders to face Brock. They just have to elevate the midcarders to a certain level of credibility and overness so that they can be the ones to carry the TV product and the bigger names can stay away from each other except for big matches. Instead of blowing Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz on free TV, they could be saved for a big event such as WrestleMania if you have them wrestling Justin Gabriel and Titus O'Neil instead.

[cool guy]

I'm so, so tired of big "dream-match" plans.

Can't we maybe just spend a few months f***ing around with some guys, tweaking their gimmicks and possibilities to see if anything catches on? You know, play things by ear according to how much the crowd likes them?

These kind of "WWE video game campaign" storylines always seem so sterile, especially when we're a year away from the event.

[mrjl]

Apr 20, 2013 1:43:02 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Apr 19, 2013 21:51:09 GMT -5 mrjl said:

If Brock vs a toothpick is a problem then how would elevating some of the guys in the midcard do anything. Most of those guys are smaller.

And WWF has always tried to use part timers/celebs. From the way his schedule seems Andre for the first three Manias was essentially a part timer. And they had Mr. T for two of them, plus football players. And in those early years for Vince they had Bruno and then Superstar Billy Graham but he got injured almost immediately after returning.

My point being this is not the side effect of a poor booking strategy. THis is the intentions of their booking strategy.

They don't have to elevate the midcarders to face Brock. They just have to elevate the midcarders to a certain level of credibility and overness so that they can be the ones to carry the TV product and the bigger names can stay away from each other except for big matches. Instead of blowing Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz on free TV, they could be saved for a big event such as WrestleMania if you have them wrestling Justin Gabriel and Titus O'Neil instead.

I think right now the attitude of many wrestling fans focuses on what they aren't getting than what they are. So there's a lot of people who'd be against Justin Gabriel vs Titus O'Neil as a match being a big deal for the fact they aren't the top guys. And they can't be the top guys as long as someone is above them.