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Post by Orange on May 17, 2013 0:51:08 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but I'm stuck and the deadline is Saturday. I'm just going to have to look over everything and make a vote based on what I see is the best case. I had laid out my suspects, and the one that I'd be most comfortable with lynching is Produceman. Whether or not that's something we can all agree on remains to be seen, but that's where I am at the moment.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 17, 2013 6:34:00 GMT -5
I don't know about you guys, but I'm stuck and the deadline is Saturday. I'm just going to have to look over everything and make a vote based on what I see is the best case. I had laid out my suspects, and the one that I'd be most comfortable with lynching is Produceman. Whether or not that's something we can all agree on remains to be seen, but that's where I am at the moment. So you're prepared to lynch me, with the game possibly on the line, based on nothing but a gut feeling you have about me?
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Post by Orange on May 17, 2013 11:54:58 GMT -5
There's not a whole lot to go on right now. I didn't say I was absolutely going to lynch you and tell everybody else to, I was just responding to the post.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 17, 2013 16:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 17, 2013 18:42:03 GMT -5
Vote:Orange Here's why: first he called me suspicious but doesn't give a reason why. attribute it to a gut feeling. What makes you suspect Produceman, Orange? No one thing in particular, but I always have a sneaking suspicion of him. It's just... his game seems scummy, and it seemed scummy last game to me, too. It's just an odd vibe I get, which is why I won't cast a vote or anything, but it's just a weird gut feeling thing. next he claims that i'm part of the Mafia with artificial human and classy lady. his evidence? I said I was leaning town on artificial human. Alright, again, sorry for the inactivity, you guys. Had to take the dog to the vet and yadda yada yada. Anyway, after looking over the thread, I've put together a list of three that I feel are our Mafia. Produceman Classy Lady Artificial Human *Maybe* Wolf Hurricane A page or so ago Produceman said he felt there were 3 Mafia left. If we go off of that, I personally believe that that's our Mafia. Why? For one reason, most of their interaction this game, to me, seems very artificial. Nothing about their interaction and dialog seems natural to me - it seems very pre-planned and well thought out. I can't really prove this as it's just a gut feeling by reading through their posts, but I can prove the rest of my feelings the best I can. Artificial Human posts this post, in which he says there are two players that he's not suspicious of in the slightest. It might be helpful if I mention the two people I'm not suspicious of in the slightest. Those two people are: -Classy Lady -Wolf Hurricane. Wolf for reasons I've already stated and I'm not sure why Wolf would put himself out there to kill someone who was suspicious of him. Classy Lady because I see nothing scummy about the way she's playing. Everyone else I'm at the very least on the fence about. Produceman says he's leaning town on AH. The only person that i'm leaning town on is AH. everyone else is up in the air And then this recent post from Classy Lady, it all just seems so artificial, cold and pre-planned to me. I.. actually kind of get where Produceman is going with the Wolf Hurricane theory, but I'm not going to exactly jump on board with it quite yet. I need to read more tomorrow before I cast a vote, but right now I'd feel comfortable with casting a vote for Produceman. So, for now, I'm going to do this FoS: No Longer a Produceman finally, he reiterates that he would be comfortable lynching me after wolf places the initial vote on me. he also subtly pushes town to lynch me with his "whether or not that's something we all can agree on line." I don't know about you guys, but I'm stuck and the deadline is Saturday. I'm just going to have to look over everything and make a vote based on what I see is the best case. I had laid out my suspects, and the one that I'd be most comfortable with lynching is Produceman. Whether or not that's something we can all agree on remains to be seen, but that's where I am at the moment. His entire case against me is faulty, based on quotes taken out of context and incorrectly interpreted as some kind of scum communication. Once wolf placed his vote on me he jumped at the chance to go from "gut feeling" to "i'm ok lynching him" with no solid evidence backing his suspicions. It reads like scum trying to plant the seeds for a game winning mislynch. The only thing i'm guilty of us utilizing my vote to lynch two people that I felt were our best bet at being scum. Yes, I was wrong. I'd rather be wrong and get valuable information than not take a chance at getting scum lynched. I've given solid reasoning behind why I voted each time. Deadline is tomorrow. town needs a lynch or the game might be over. If someone has more concrete evidence for someone else that may be scum, now is the time to come forward. I'm confident we caught a scum. Let's deny the Mafia a W and lynch one of those bastards.
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Post by Orange on May 17, 2013 19:14:52 GMT -5
Whew, okay.
Your first point against me was in response to a post by BRB, in which he asks me why I was suspicious of you, which I mentioned in a post of mine. I said that it was just a feeling, something people do in Mafia games often.
Your second point is that I had a list of people who I felt were Mafia and included you because you were leaning town on AH, another person in my supposed Mafia. I fail to see why laying out a case in a slow-moving game makes me suspicious, but alright.
Your last point fails to mention that my response was to AH who said he was stuck in who to lynch. I offered up my thoughts because I feel that you're scum. Out of everybody, I feel you are most scum. Did I cast a vote? No, I just said that, if worse came to worse, I would cast a vote for you. That's it.
You want to talk about my case being faulty? You took posts in which I do general Mafia game things (gut feeling posts and replying to people) and attempt to frame me up as scum. It comes across as desperate at best and scum trying to cause a diversion at best.
Produce, you're a Mafia game MVP, you can do better than that. If you honestly feel I'm scum, surely you can put together a better case than "he did this and said this and replied to this and gut feeling'd me". If I'm the guy that the town wants to lynch - prove it. That's all I'm asking - prove, outside of a post where I said you were a gut feeling, which doesn't mean anything if I don't cast a vote, that I'm the guy town wants. I'm standing right here and I'm prepared to fight you on this and I'm not backing down. I've been very open and honest all game long about my feelings and I'm not prepared to stop now.
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Post by Orange on May 17, 2013 19:16:13 GMT -5
Also, how I upgraded you from gut feeling to possible Mafia? That's called investigating and evolving your opinion. Another general Mafia game thing that has been done by literally every player in every Mafia game. Hardly a scum tactic to expand upon ideals of your own as to why you feel some players are scummy.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 17, 2013 19:53:45 GMT -5
The kind of flailing that Orange accuses Produce of is something that I've seen him do in past games where he's been mafia or third party. It happened in both DBZ: Abridged and Space Ghost and he was a serial killer and mafia, respectively.
On the other hand, Orange, your first real accusation against Produceman did the same kind of thing you accused him of doing in finding things usual to mafia games and making them suspicious. I'm referring to the post where you claimed that my, Classy Lady, and Produceman's dialogue seems unnatural and pre-planned. That's something that's also usual in mafia games.
I'm just going to go ahead and play my entire hand since we're at a point now where it's all or nothing in my opnion. I said a few pages back that I'm 100 percent sure that both Wolf and Classy are town. There aren't many other times in a mafia game when a person can say that they are 100 percent sure on someone's alignment. I don't know how much help that will be but with one day to go until the deadline of what might be the last day phase of the game, I'm no longer willing to hold my hand.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 17, 2013 20:40:11 GMT -5
I figured as much, AH. i suspected it a while back and you confirmed it when you confirmed classy and wolf. I still think wolf might be godfather. His play just seems very scummy to me.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 17, 2013 23:16:13 GMT -5
I'm just going to have to look at everything and make a last day vote at possibly the last minute so to speak. I will have a vote tomorrow.
Where is everyone BTW? It seems like the later part of this day phase has been me, Produce, and Orange.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 0:12:00 GMT -5
Alright. We've got all day tomorrow (I believe) to fully figure this thing out, but I predicted Produceman's moves a few days ago, and he's went and done what I said he would. I feel like he's just jumping around willy-nilly on whoever suspected him last.
So unless something big happens tomorrow, Vote: Produceman
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 18, 2013 12:06:19 GMT -5
Less than eight hours left, people! We need to start making decisions yesterday!
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Post by Orange on May 18, 2013 12:12:39 GMT -5
One more thing, Produce. The last game I played in with you as town you didn't exhibit this kind of behavior, and by that I mean throwing a vote towards anybody that throws the least amount of suspicion towards you (and by least amount, I mean a GUT FEELING).
That's scummy, plain and simple. Maybe I'm wrong about you being scum, but moves like that certainly don't help your case.
Vote:Produceman
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Post by lodirulz on May 18, 2013 12:12:39 GMT -5
We can't just sit back and let them win. It's time to get something done. And to be honest, I've been worried about Produceman and his actions. And people aren't exactly jumping onto his vote, and that normally indicates an enemy.
Vote: Produceman
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Post by Orange on May 18, 2013 12:13:24 GMT -5
I'm also casting my vote now because I'm going to be busy today, so I won't be able to check back in here until later tonight or tomorrow.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on May 18, 2013 12:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by lodirulz on May 18, 2013 14:49:14 GMT -5
Guys, time is not on our side.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 18, 2013 15:01:45 GMT -5
Great job guys...great job
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on May 18, 2013 15:13:22 GMT -5
Hm, I'm still a little suspicious of CL (look just upthread for an example of going with Wolf BTW), but time is of the essence.
Now wait, if memory serves correctly, didn't Orange just recently nab Joker or Wolf in TMNT Mafia? Let's see if his Scum senses tingle true this time.
Vote: Produceman
Putting Orange to the test just like with Waffel, but this time I'm calling his bluff (if he's wrong). If Produce is Town, Orange has got to be Mafia, this late in the game.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 15:15:13 GMT -5
You missed my vote, B Natural. I believe I was the second person to vote for Produceman.
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