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Post by SOR on Apr 27, 2013 15:51:01 GMT -5
I'm watching this show right now and I can't honestly think of a more stacked card coming from WWE (Let alone anywhere else)
Wrestlemania XIX had 5 Main Events featuring Michaels/Jericho, Triple H/Booker T, McMahon/Hogan, Austin/Rock and Lesnar/Angle. The only other stacked cards I can really think of would be X-7 and X-8 but even those had 2-3 main events.
So is this the most stacked card of all time? Am I missing a show or does this win in terms of "Most stacked card ever"?
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Apr 27, 2013 16:25:54 GMT -5
Indeed it is. Though, this is sullied by the fact it drew so low (for a 'Mania).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 16:32:02 GMT -5
I'd say Mania 17 had a better arrangement of its undercard, since outside of its main-events Mania 19 has a really weird card (and they had to demote Kane and RVD to Heat) like Taker being in a meaningless tag match that turned into a meaningless handicap match, but yeah, 19 is loaded with big matches. I'm not too surprised it didn't draw too well though, Triple H / Booker was hardly a great feud, and it never seemed like there was comparatively speaking all that much interest for Angle / Lesnar or Hogan / Vince even though those were pretty much the show's main selling points.
That being said though, outside of Triple H / Booker, there isn't much to criticize about the show in how it played out. I can kind of nitpick and say that I think Rock / Austin should have closed the show out and Jericho / Michaels could have been way better than it actually was, but it's still a great, great PPV.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Apr 27, 2013 16:35:27 GMT -5
That depends on your definition of stacked. I seem to be in the minority who just didn't really feel this show at all. I wasn't into Lesnar or Angle really at the time, Austin and Rock were gone for so long that it hurt my interest in the company in general, and the rest of the show just wasn't my cup of tea. I liked XX a lot better
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Post by SOR on Apr 27, 2013 16:37:49 GMT -5
That depends on your definition of stacked. I seem to be in the minority who just didn't really feel this show at all. I wasn't into Lesnar or Angle really at the time, Austin and Rock were gone for so long that it hurt my interest in the company in general, and the rest of the show just wasn't my cup of tea. I liked XX a lot better XX is one I should of mentioned in my OP as well but 1 of the main events didn't deliver at all.
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Post by mizerable on Apr 27, 2013 16:43:38 GMT -5
My second favorite Mania ever, I was into every match besides the Taker match, which should have just been switched to a 1 on 1 match.
It really sucks it drew so poorly, I guess that was part of the fall out from the drop in wrestling interest.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 27, 2013 17:42:24 GMT -5
WM XIX just doesn't do it for me personally. For such a supposedly stacked card, what on the show is actually all that good? Jericho/HBK was pretty good but not blow away. Lesnar/Angle is remembered mostly for the botched finish...it's kind of pedestrian as a match. HHH/Booker is mediocre. Austin/Rock is pretty easily their weakest WM match and frankly a dispiriting final match for Austin. And yes, the insulting demotion of RVD and Kane to Heat while we got the Miller Catfight Girls on PPV was just insulting.
I actually like WMs 17, 18, and 20 all better than this show.
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Post by BRV on Apr 27, 2013 18:11:51 GMT -5
In terms of sheer star power, I think WrestleMania XXVI is in the conversation. Triple H, Sheamus, Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, Bret Hart, Mr. McMahon, Chris Jericho, Edge, John Cena, Batista, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker. Not that it matters, but those are 12 legitimate WWE Hall of Fame contenders on one card.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 18:35:47 GMT -5
In terms of sheer star power, I think WrestleMania XXVI is in the conversation. Triple H, Sheamus, Rey Mysterio, CM Punk, Bret Hart, Mr. McMahon, Chris Jericho, Edge, John Cena, Batista, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker. Not that it matters, but those are 12 legitimate WWE Hall of Fame contenders on one card. Even if he was in a match that was pretty much meaningless (though given the talent involved it should've been way better than it was) Orton should probably be in that list too. And Big Show for that matter.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Apr 27, 2013 18:53:33 GMT -5
I'd say X8 is more stacked.
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Post by Scooterdust on Apr 27, 2013 19:32:57 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever felt more like a wrestling fan than I did when I watched WrestleMania XIX, which was an unbelievable event from top to bottom. It is the event that really made me question how well I knew if someone was going to go over.
WrestleMania XXVI had the star power and the potential, but it just fizzled into a pile of mush punctuated by a jumping Tombstone (which I believe is due to the continuing idea that no one in the WWE offices believe Chris Jericho should ever headline a WrestleMania again)
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Post by fw91 on Apr 27, 2013 19:37:32 GMT -5
it was stacked. on paper wrestlemania 26 was stacked as well
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Post by Mac on Apr 27, 2013 19:54:04 GMT -5
To be fair, theres 18 HOFers at Wrestlemania 6 and some of the ones missing from the HOF are Ultimate Warrior, Randy Savage, Jake Roberts and Rick Rude.
And of the 12 matches at Wrestlemania 3 theres 16 HOFers wrestling.
And if you look at Wrestlemania 14, 16 of the guys there are probably going to wind up in the HOF.
You'll probably wind up with 15 guys from WM 21 who go to the HOF in 8 matches considering the ones who are on the card who wont make it are Akebono, Chris Benoit, Christian*, Benhjiman, Christy Hemme.
Obviuously HOF isn't really what makes a card "stacked" but those are pretty impressive numbers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2013 20:56:49 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever felt more like a wrestling fan than I did when I watched WrestleMania XIX, which was an unbelievable event from top to bottom. It is the event that really made me question how well I knew if someone was going to go over. WrestleMania XXVI had the star power and the potential, but it just fizzled into a pile of mush punctuated by a jumping Tombstone (which I believe is due to the continuing idea that no one in the WWE offices believe Chris Jericho should ever headline a WrestleMania again) I was personally opposed to Taker / Michaels main-eventing, but I don't think Edge / Jericho should have either. Edge was pretty much a flop as a face in large part due to the build for the match being terrible and completely one-sided in his favor, Jericho's the one who went over, and it really wasn't all that great of a match, plus it was rendered moot two days later anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 9:11:12 GMT -5
I remember sitting on the fence, debating whether or not I should order this event.
Angle/Lesnar sold me. (I was just reading the book "Shooters: The Toughest Men In Professional Wrestling", and they had a large talk about this very match. Angle's neck was completely screwed up by this point, and he was scared out of his mind having to face a big, strong, young guy like Brock. And Brock was just as concerned. Kurt mentioned to Vince maybe he shouldn't wrestle that night. Vince, caring Vince, told him, "Well yes, you could back out of the match. Or you can have the match.") I think as far as "what's to be expected" and "how it actually came out", this is one of the Top Three.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 17:08:47 GMT -5
Summerslam 2002 is definitely up there too. And, of course, Wrestlemania X-Seven.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2013 17:32:32 GMT -5
SummerSlam 02, SummerSlam 98 and WrestleMania XIX are my favorite shows of all time.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Apr 28, 2013 19:41:35 GMT -5
SummerSlam 02, SummerSlam 98 and WrestleMania XIX are my favorite shows of all time. are you me? WM 19 is the most stacked card of all time, yes it is. only thing that could have made it bigger would have been adding Taker/Sting and Goldberg/Kane
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 28, 2013 19:47:31 GMT -5
It's up there.
I also agree with the people saying that WM26 was stacked too. To me, that is probably the best use of the roster they've done for any of the last 4 or 5 WrestleManias.
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Post by What? on Apr 28, 2013 21:01:41 GMT -5
WM XIX just doesn't do it for me personally. For such a supposedly stacked card, what on the show is actually all that good? Jericho/HBK was pretty good but not blow away. Lesnar/Angle is remembered mostly for the botched finish...it's kind of pedestrian as a match. HHH/Booker is mediocre. Austin/Rock is pretty easily their weakest WM match and frankly a dispiriting final match for Austin. And yes, the insulting demotion of RVD and Kane to Heat while we got the Miller Catfight Girls on PPV was just insulting. I actually like WMs 17, 18, and 20 all better than this show. I'm so glad somebody came in to say this. Austin did not seem fluid in his movements during the match (and yes, I'm aware of his hospital fiasco the night before). But he was obviously not able to move like he had up until 2001..his matches were already suffering in 2002. And since both had been back for about a month prior to this, the emotional investment really wasn't there for me. Almost like Vince just randomly told the fans, "Look fans! A big match! Rock vs. Austin!" and that was it. Neither man had done anything relevant in 6-12 months and it makes me look back on it in a weird way.
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