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Post by ________ has left the building on May 3, 2013 6:49:21 GMT -5
If the brand split does end, and a bunch of wrestlers get cut because of it, TNA and ROH will have a field day. I think we can see some real competition for WWE if the roster split ends. Doubt it. TNA has a limited roster & budget and spots are tougher to get than WWE. ROH's the same deal except with a more demanding style and fanbase.
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 3, 2013 9:19:21 GMT -5
Sigh, how I long for the days back when they had separate brand PPVs and all of that. Probably never happening again, or at least not until WWE gets a sudden huge boost in the star power of its roster. Yes, which featured such classic udnercards like: Luther Reigns vs. Charlie Haas Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero Kenzo Suzuki vs. Billy Gunn Sable vs. Torrie Wilson Mordecai vs. Hardcore Holly Ha! Who didn't love matches like Coach and Garrison Gade vs Tajiri and Rhyno and Tomko vs Stevie Richards making up a huge chunk of a show that costs $34.99!? I never really fully embraced the idea of the brand split, but now that they're not using it (and really haven't been), their roster is WAY too big. They're like WCW in the Nitro era when they had dozens of guys that I had no idea even worked there because they never appeared on Nitro. And then they'd trot out a couple of them on a PPV for a WCW Saturday Night exclusive storyline and the crowd wouldn't care and then they'd wonder why these guys can't get over. WWE is like that now. If it didn't happen on Raw, it doesn't matter. Even the most markish marks know that. The more I think about it, modern WWE is almost identical to 95-98 WCW. Kinda scary.
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Post by zeez on May 3, 2013 9:25:24 GMT -5
Can't expect Smackdown branded house shows to do as well as Raw shows when half of the TV show is filled with Raw recaps (well so is Raw but that's besides the point).
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Post by WBL a.k.a. Mountie II on May 3, 2013 9:52:52 GMT -5
I still say we need to get rid of the WHC, because with the brand split over now, it's just taking up the space that the IC title is supposed to be taking up... Mid/Upper carders who are ready for prime time.
When is Summerslam? Not to far off, right? Do it then. Or just to a special PPV based on the 'End of and Era'.
And do it soon. Because soon as the WHC is defunct, I've gotta get started on a WHC Chuck 'Em that'll probably only last six hours.
But yeah... get rid of the WHC, because the IC title is supposed to do what it's doing now. Keep the US title as a kind of European title, a bottom-midcard tier belt.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 3, 2013 11:06:59 GMT -5
Eh I like the title setup the way it is honestly. I realize I'm the only one but I like having two world titles and two midcard titles. And I like it even MORE now that the WHC is clearly the uppermidcard belt rather than the other slightly less important (sometimes more important when its on RAW) belt. But they will probably unify the world titles and maybe the midcard ones too.
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Post by WBL a.k.a. Mountie II on May 3, 2013 11:18:23 GMT -5
Back during Attitude Era, when we had one show spread over two nights, instead of two different 'brands', we had WWE, IC and European for different belt tiers. Hardcore as well, though that level changed a bit here and there. WWE can do fine with WWE, IC and US titles in the same tierset.
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Post by Fearless The Tank on May 3, 2013 13:22:44 GMT -5
If the brand split does end, and a bunch of wrestlers get cut because of it, TNA and ROH will have a field day. I think we can see some real competition for WWE if the roster split ends. Doubt it. TNA has a limited roster & budget and spots are tougher to get than WWE. ROH's the same deal except with a more demanding style and fanbase. one companies "trash" can be another companies "treasure", not saying anyone is trash. I think it's safe to say it's embedded in all of our brains that whenever this topic is brought up, the #1 example is Austin from WCW to WWE. I agree with the limited budgets part, but I'm sure a convincing argument can be made to pick up some fresh talent that just got dropped from WWE, it can be looked at as exploiting the enemies weakness.
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Post by WBL a.k.a. Mountie II on May 3, 2013 14:47:44 GMT -5
Doubt it. TNA has a limited roster & budget and spots are tougher to get than WWE. ROH's the same deal except with a more demanding style and fanbase. one companies "trash" can be another companies "treasure", not saying anyone is trash. I think it's safe to say it's embedded in all of our brains that whenever this topic is brought up, the #1 example is Austin from WCW to WWE. I agree with the limited budgets part, but I'm sure a convincing argument can be made to pick up some fresh talent that just got dropped from WWE, it can be looked at as exploiting the enemies weakness. Think about what TNA'S X-Division could do for Justin Gabriel.
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Post by The Varsity Club on May 4, 2013 3:38:28 GMT -5
so what becomes of the sd gm, booker t and teddy? Player
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 4, 2013 4:10:32 GMT -5
If they're ending the brand split, I think they need to unify the titles.
Having two World Titles only enforces the idea that being a midcarder is a "bad" thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 6:42:26 GMT -5
This ending of the brand split won't make any difference to TV.
The people at the very top of the card will only appear on Smackdown now and then as special attractions.
Both shows will have their own GM's
The title situation will change the same.
They killed the brand split ages ago, it only existed for house show purposes and now they're killing it for house shows, nothing will be changed on TV as TV has already been operating with no brand split for at least a year.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 4, 2013 8:52:36 GMT -5
one companies "trash" can be another companies "treasure", not saying anyone is trash. I think it's safe to say it's embedded in all of our brains that whenever this topic is brought up, the #1 example is Austin from WCW to WWE. I agree with the limited budgets part, but I'm sure a convincing argument can be made to pick up some fresh talent that just got dropped from WWE, it can be looked at as exploiting the enemies weakness. Think about what TNA'S X-Division could do for Justin Gabriel. The same it's done for the X Division guys the last few years, nothing. I'm not saying TNA and other companies shouldn't hire former WWE wrestlers. The reality is that those companies have little spots available. Unless TNA is planning a mass firing, increasing their payroll, and get a second show; they don't need the extra manpower just cause.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 11:03:44 GMT -5
Back during Attitude Era, when we had one show spread over two nights, instead of two different 'brands', we had WWE, IC and European for different belt tiers. Hardcore as well, though that level changed a bit here and there. WWE can do fine with WWE, IC and US titles in the same tierset. Now's really not that different, you've got the WWE, World, IC, US, which pretty much functions the same except there are 4 tiers instead of 3. They have enough talent to support it if they're able to mix up the cards more and feature different talent. Right now it's about 15 guys getting the bulk of the TV time, which doesn't seem like enough to have 4 titles in the mix.
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