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Post by SOR on May 4, 2013 11:58:19 GMT -5
They still have a PPV to sell, Tickets to sell, DVD's to sell after the show. Even less people would buy a PPV to see Eric Young/Bully Ray because you know Bully is going to wreck him in about 5 minutes. At least with Sting/Bully you know you're going to get a 15-20 minute match featuring a legend of the sport taking on TNA's top guy. How do you know it won't be a 5-10 match? At this point in his career, putting Sting in a long match is asking for trouble. Again, TNA needs to start thinking about the day when there's no Sting, Hardy, Hogan, and Angle to fall back on and form a contingency plan. Bully Ray was a midcarder in TNA before they got behind him. Taking them the time to build up Magnus will help them in the long run. TNA needs new blood in the main event. They shouldn't have to wait for WWE to toss them some scraps. They need to show they can create stars who are under 30. The originals they love to tout are in their mid to late 30's. By TNA logic, they got another 5 years before they can run with the ball once more. I don't know for sure it won't be a 5-10 match with Sting/Bully but Sting can easily go 15-20 minutes on Pay Per View when need be especially since the guy very rarely wrestles on TV and doesn't work House Shows. TNA has guys built up already for the time Sting and Hogan aren't around. AJ Styles is only 35 that isn't old in wrestling terms. Austin Aries is also 35 and Roode is 36. That's almost "Middle Aged" for wrestlers. These dudes are still young though. Matt Morgan is 36. A lot of guys TNA are building are young guys. I think you and some others are taking the entire ordeal a little seriously. It's one Pay Per View match to build a guy up so he can lose to a young guy at the biggest show of the year. Sting is putting Bully Ray over to continue a story line and to build AJ. That's all, there is no chance Sting will win the belt.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 4, 2013 13:13:23 GMT -5
Are you even guaranteed that Bully is beating Sting? Remember when Lex Luger beat Hogan for the WCW title during the height of the NWO. No one saw that coming. It lasted a week, Hulk won back the title, and the NWO went on like nothing happened. You forget Sting is in his 50's and doesn't wrestle like he did when he was younger. He's gassed after a few minutes and there is only so much walk through the crowd you can do for 20 minutes. Sting's Q factor isn't high as you think. Fewer people are going to buy a ppv just because Sting is wrestling than when it used to mean something. And far as building young guys, who under 30 is ready to become a main eventer? Garett? Wes? You downgrade Magnus but the man has more star potential than any other person in TNA.
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Post by SOR on May 4, 2013 15:09:32 GMT -5
Are you even guaranteed that Bully is beating Sting? Remember when Lex Luger beat Hogan for the WCW title during the height of the NWO. No one saw that coming. It lasted a week, Hulk won back the title, and the NWO went on like nothing happened. You forget Sting is in his 50's and doesn't wrestle like he did when he was younger. He's gassed after a few minutes and there is only so much walk through the crowd you can do for 20 minutes. Sting's Q factor isn't high as you think. Fewer people are going to buy a ppv just because Sting is wrestling than when it used to mean something. And far as building young guys, who under 30 is ready to become a main eventer? Garett? Wes? You downgrade Magnus but the man has more star potential than any other person in TNA. Nothing is guaranteed in wrestling there aren't any 100%'s but I'm about 90% sure that Bully is going to beat Sting. It solidifies Bully and makes Aces and Eights look good which they need before going into Bound For Glory. The nWo example is a bad one because they did it when the nWo was way overpowered. Aces and Eights still need to look powerful which they have done but not to the maximum. A win over Sting does that. As for Sting getting tired I didn't notice it in the Morgan match although I wasn't looking for it. it didn't seem to damage the match in any way it was really quite decent. Why does a guy have to be in his 20's to be pushed? Early 30's is at least another 20 years in the wrestling business if not longer. It's not like WWE is pushing a bunch of 20 year old guys either (Except The Shield)
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 4, 2013 18:34:26 GMT -5
As for Sting getting tired I didn't notice it in the Morgan match although I wasn't looking for it. it didn't seem to damage the match in any way it was really quite decent. Why does a guy have to be in his 20's to be pushed? Early 30's is at least another 20 years in the wrestling business if not longer. It's not like WWE is pushing a bunch of 20 year old guys either (Except The Shield) Decent is subjective. And not because Sting beat Morgan. In that match, Sting looked like an old man. He didn't move like someone who still has a spring in his step. To paraphrase Murtaugh, "He's getting too old for this shit." Sting still does have value but putting him out there to wrestle regularly is diminishing his value. A guy doesn't have to in his 20's to be pushed but the company needs future prospects to have if the company wants grow and survive. TNA especially needs new blood in their roster. You shouldn't tell a wrestler since you're in your 20's, wait another 5-10 years before we think about giving you a push. You take the risk of that wrestler deciding not to stick with TNA and take his talents elsewhere. You lose on having the next big thing because you are establishing an age glass ceiling on top of the other glass ceiling. It's like if a sports team doesn't draft and/or hire any young athlete, eventually everyone becomes old, they are no longer effective, and people stop caring. TNA has a nice crop of younger wrestlers with experience to utilize like King, Ion, and Magnus. Kurt Angle recognizes they need fresh talent working at the top. Fresh like people who didn't headline during the Monday Night Wars. Daniels maybe in his 40's but he would be a very welcome addition to the main event scene. I question making the current babyface focal point 2 guys who were considered getting up there and stagnant in 1999 big deals in 2013. Especially when they doing the same characters from that time period.
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 4, 2013 19:31:53 GMT -5
The guy suggesting Magnus and Eric Young, those guys are Midcarders at best who's buying a PPV to watch those guys? I'm surprised Eric Young even still has a job with TNA Ric gets the angle and how it should (And hopefully WILL) play out. Bully will beat Sting they'll go with "Who can save us now" which will lead to Hogan putting over AJ as the guy to do it. AJ agrees making him look like a hero and topples the evil Bully Ray at BFG. From there AJ can turn heel again on the people or you have a new baby face to play with. The better question is, who's buying a TNA pay per view? Again, with Sting, he's been the saviour of TNA for the past 6 or so years, but why not build up a newer babyface instead of just going back to the well. Sting isn't John Cena, he's the old guy making Matt Morgan pass out. The storyline is fine, but it would have been better 10 years ago at least.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 9:44:43 GMT -5
Are you even guaranteed that Bully is beating Sting? Remember when Lex Luger beat Hogan for the WCW title during the height of the NWO. No one saw that coming. It lasted a week, Hulk won back the title, and the NWO went on like nothing happened. You forget Sting is in his 50's and doesn't wrestle like he did when he was younger. He's gassed after a few minutes and there is only so much walk through the crowd you can do for 20 minutes. Sting's Q factor isn't high as you think. Fewer people are going to buy a ppv just because Sting is wrestling than when it used to mean something. And far as building young guys, who under 30 is ready to become a main eventer? Garett? Wes? You downgrade Magnus but the man has more star potential than any other person in TNA.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on May 5, 2013 10:14:50 GMT -5
Larry Csonka over at 411Mania had a great idea though, one that follows your general premise, putting a fresh talent in there with Bully, keeping Morgan heel, and not putting Sting in the title match: www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/281999There are problems with it, but id take it over Sting at this point. You know, that idea definitely could work. A little tweaking would be needed, but it would definitely be worth a look.
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