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Post by bootytea on May 5, 2013 14:24:35 GMT -5
I always thought it was Albert Einstein
Guess I was wrong
Thanks Dixie Carter
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on May 5, 2013 14:31:03 GMT -5
When they got rid of all those copies of Santa With Muscles, they airdropped them to Africa. So he's really famous there, like Idi Amin.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on May 5, 2013 14:38:37 GMT -5
"Orf with her head.... sorry, she's orf her head!" hogan is one of the worlds most recogniseable wrestlers of the last 30 years, no point denying it.. but to say that the rock isnt on his fame level or above it is a tad delusional on her part, hell paris hilton is probably above hogan in the fame stakes. i do wonder if hogans contract states that every interview dixie gives she must spend a portion of it talking about hogan and his legendary status because it seems to happen that way most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 14:41:57 GMT -5
When they got rid of all those copies of Santa With Muscles, they airdropped them to Africa. So he's really famous there, like Idi Amin. While they're wearing their Buffalo Bills Super Bowl Champion t-shirts no doubt.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 14:56:30 GMT -5
Who cares if your recognizable if your not relevant? And besides, nobody gives a damn about today's Hulk Hogan. Everybody remember's the Hulk Hogan from the "company up North," who became famous in the 80's and 90's. Not the 8 back surgeries, sex-tape mess of a man who's still trying to hold on to the little relevance he has left. Yeah, I feel that his being so famous and recognizable is overrated in terms of what it means to the bottom line. I have to wonder if they make enough money off of Hogan's presence to offset what they pay him.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 5, 2013 15:32:28 GMT -5
If I ask anyone under 30 who they know between the Rock and Hogan, more would know who Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. I'm assuming this is one of the many things Hulk tells Dixie in order to prove his relevancy. The world has changed. More people know Justin Beiber than Elvis. When Micheal Jackson died, my 9 year old niece asked was he someone important. And Hogan's name value and presence has done little to TNA's overall business. They get the same tv ratings. They still do the same ppv and house show numbers. They are still a distant number 2. Guaranteed if Rock showed up in TNA, they would get that fabled 1.4 rating and business would be up a whole lot more.
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Post by gnr123 on May 5, 2013 17:25:15 GMT -5
It wouldn't shock me if Hogan told her all this stuff to work her into allowing him to become TNA Champion.
Remember that interview when he said he want's to be TNA Champion? Well, if Dixie believe's all the bullshit he's telling her, she'll allow him to do it.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 5, 2013 17:53:53 GMT -5
LOL, implying that The Rock isn't as well known as Hogan in 2013 is hilarious.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on May 5, 2013 17:58:35 GMT -5
This may sound cynical, but I do wonder if Hulk wrestled his one and only match in TNA purely so that they could continue referring to him as a "wrestler".
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Post by machomuta on May 5, 2013 18:01:49 GMT -5
He is only known in the US.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on May 5, 2013 18:09:44 GMT -5
He is only known in the US. Basketball, especially the NBA, is really popular around the world. Hulk Hogan goes to China, no one knows who he is.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 18:11:08 GMT -5
He is only known in the US. Doubt it. Basketball is a worldwide game, and he's the best player. I bet that even D-Wade is more popular worldwide. Yao Ming. Shaq. Kobe. I could name them forever.
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Post by Rave on May 5, 2013 18:53:25 GMT -5
Pro wrestler and athlete? Yes. Celebrity? No.
Dixie apparently doesn't realize that there are now several generations of wrestling fan who didn't grow up watching Hogan wrestle, and who only know him from those failed reality shows and via his trainwreck of a family. Sounds like she's grasping at straws to justify why he's still being paid.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 18:53:35 GMT -5
There is such a thing as the wrong kind of famous and that's what I think Hogan is.
Generally seen as too old to wrestle. Former reality show star. Odd relationship with his daughter at times. Acrimonious divorce.
These are things that make you celebre-taunt famous, not something that makes you a good brand ambassador.
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 5, 2013 20:14:59 GMT -5
Pro wrestler and athlete? Yes. Celebrity? No. Dixie apparently doesn't realize that there are now several generations of wrestling fan who didn't grow up watching Hogan wrestle, and who only know him from those failed reality shows and via his trainwreck of a family. Sounds like she's grasping at straws to justify why he's still being paid. I agree that he's not a famous celebrity if we are comparing him to people like Beiber or Michael Jackson, but he is still probably one of the most famous athletes, and definitely the most famous wrestler. As far as "several generations" not growing up with him, that's not true at all. Hogan has been a full time main event wrestler as recently as 2003. In the height of the Monday Night War era in 1998, when Austin and Goldberg were the most famous wrestlers in the world, Hogan was at the very worst the 3rd most famous, tied with The Rock. If we are going to say that Hogan isn't relevant anymore to the mainstream as a wrestler, than certainly The Rock isn't either. Rock hasn't been a full time wrestler since 2003. Any kid who has never seen Hogan as a full time wrestler in WWE, probably had never seen Rock in a wrestling ring prior to last year. Rock still might be famous, but it's nearly 100% as an action movie star. Hogan was one of the most recognizable "athletes" in the world for nearly 20 years. If Mike Tyson is still world famous, surely Hulk Hogan still is.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 5, 2013 20:20:13 GMT -5
He is only known in the US. Basketball, especially the NBA, is really popular around the world. Hulk Hogan goes to China, no one knows who he is. Yep, none of the big 4 leagues have the international appeal that the NBA does. That's been one constant thing people have praised David Stern about, how much of an international influence the NBA has had since Stern took over. Hell, the first time Yao and Yi played each other in the NBA, it was estimated that over 200 million people in China watched it. The NBA is HUGE overseas. Pro wrestler and athlete? Yes. Celebrity? No. Dixie apparently doesn't realize that there are now several generations of wrestling fan who didn't grow up watching Hogan wrestle, and who only know him from those failed reality shows and via his trainwreck of a family. Sounds like she's grasping at straws to justify why he's still being paid. I agree that he's not a famous celebrity if we are comparing him to people like Beiber or Michael Jackson, but he is still probably one of the most famous athletes, and definitely the most famous wrestler. As far as "several generations" not growing up with him, that's not true at all. Hogan has been a full time main event wrestler as recently as 2003. In the height of the Monday Night War era in 1998, when Austin and Goldberg were the most famous wrestlers in the world, Hogan was at the very worst the 3rd most famous, tied with The Rock. If we are going to say that Hogan isn't relevant anymore to the mainstream as a wrestler, than certainly The Rock isn't either. Rock hasn't been a full time wrestler since 2003. Any kid who has never seen Hogan as a full time wrestler in WWE, probably had never seen Rock in a wrestling ring prior to last year. Rock still might be famous, but it's nearly 100% as an action movie star. Hogan was one of the most recognizable "athletes" in the world for nearly 20 years. If Mike Tyson is still world famous, surely Hulk Hogan still is. Tyson has his appearances in both Hangover movies though. The first one shot him back into the mainstream eye.
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Post by SOR on May 6, 2013 2:24:41 GMT -5
NBA is pretty big but could Lebron James sell out stadiums worldwide to watch him play ball? Legitimate stadiums not 15,000-20,000 seat Basketball Courts.
I remember back in 02 when Hogan was with WWE and they announced him for a tour of Australia. Eventually he did that angle with Brock where Brock injured him but before that he was advertised for the tour as the main star (Lesnar and Triple H were the other two) and the building sold out and drew 55,000. This was in 02 when Hogan was old and had just come off a tag title run so WWE wasn't pushing him that much either.
He came back in 09 and did a nationwide tour drawing between 5-10k each night. Not bad for a man in his late 50's. As I mentioned earlier his worked angle became national news.
This is just taking into account his work as an older guy. If we include his prime and the numbers he drew there he beats almost every other NBA Player in history in terms of numbers and fame (I'd put him equal with Michael Jordan to be honest)
Edit: Oh and as for Tyson he's famous for being a bad ass but he hasn't been as relevant as long as Hogan has. He kind of dropped off the face of the earth for a little while there. Hogan's never done that and never been forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2013 5:57:28 GMT -5
NBA is pretty big but could Lebron James sell out stadiums worldwide to watch him play ball? Legitimate stadiums not 15,000-20,000 seat Basketball Courts. I remember back in 02 when Hogan was with WWE and they announced him for a tour of Australia. Eventually he did that angle with Brock where Brock injured him but before that he was advertised for the tour as the main star (Lesnar and Triple H were the other two) and the building sold out and drew 55,000. This was in 02 when Hogan was old and had just come off a tag title run so WWE wasn't pushing him that much either. He came back in 09 and did a nationwide tour drawing between 5-10k each night. Not bad for a man in his late 50's. As I mentioned earlier his worked angle became national news. This is just taking into account his work as an older guy. If we include his prime and the numbers he drew there he beats almost every other NBA Player in history in terms of numbers and fame (I'd put him equal with Michael Jordan to be honest) Edit: Oh and as for Tyson he's famous for being a bad ass but he hasn't been as relevant as long as Hogan has. He kind of dropped off the face of the earth for a little while there. Hogan's never done that and never been forgotten. Of course people would fill whatever needed if they knew that Heat or Team USA with LeBron are coming. That's why the basketball tickets for games are the most pricey of all Olympic sports. Rest of your post is just dwelling in history. It's about who's the biggest or most recognizable celebrity nowadays, not 10+ years ago. Present day Hulk Hogan is unable to bring any exposure to TNA. He's more known for the sex tape or his divorce than anything he's done in wrestling in past 10 years. He's like a trash celebrity in range of Perez Hilton or that Teen Mom that does porn or less prominent members of Jersey Shore. That's about it, Hulk Hogan is Ronnie from Jersey Shore.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 6, 2013 6:14:21 GMT -5
NBA is pretty big but could Lebron James sell out stadiums worldwide to watch him play ball? Legitimate stadiums not 15,000-20,000 seat Basketball Courts. I remember back in 02 when Hogan was with WWE and they announced him for a tour of Australia. Eventually he did that angle with Brock where Brock injured him but before that he was advertised for the tour as the main star (Lesnar and Triple H were the other two) and the building sold out and drew 55,000. This was in 02 when Hogan was old and had just come off a tag title run so WWE wasn't pushing him that much either. He came back in 09 and did a nationwide tour drawing between 5-10k each night. Not bad for a man in his late 50's. As I mentioned earlier his worked angle became national news. This is just taking into account his work as an older guy. If we include his prime and the numbers he drew there he beats almost every other NBA Player in history in terms of numbers and fame (I'd put him equal with Michael Jordan to be honest). No way in Hades would I put Hogan with Jordan. The only athletes I'd put on the Jordan level are Babe Ruth, Ali, and Tiger. Jordan is just a whole other level. There's a reason Nike and Upper Deck still give him a shitload of money to sell stuff with his name on it. Jordan destroys everyone else, he sells. And as popular as Hogan was, I wouldn't even rank him ahead of Kareem, Magic, Dr. J, Wilt, or Bird to name a few from the NBA's past. There's no wrestler I'd rank on that level either. It's also not really fair to compare attendance of the NBA, or MLB to wrestling. The tour you mentioned wasn't televised, so the only way people would see it was if they went to the show. The NBA and MLB has every game televised in some form, so people can watch it from their own home. Add attendance to number of people watching, and NBA and MLB destroy wrestling. And that's not even counting the NFL. Hogan couldn't sell out the Staples Center right now, but LeBron can, as can Kobe. Hell going with how big tennis is overseas, I'd say Sharapova, the Williams sisters, Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic are currently ahead of Hogan.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on May 6, 2013 6:30:08 GMT -5
Mae Young is hardly the most recognisable person in the world.
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