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Post by HR on May 13, 2013 23:24:21 GMT -5
If you don't like what's happening, just do what I've been doing since late last year and start channel surfing the moment you see that a Divas match is starting. Trust me, you'll be asking yourself why you haven't been doing this all along. And don't worry about feeling alone in doing this because the QH ratings show that on a typical Raw, a few hundred thousand viewers do the very same thing (and last week, it was nearly a million viewers tuning them out). When WWE treats the women like a joke, basically insulting you for watching the Divas, it's no surprise that people are tuning out. When the women are booked even remotely decently they do fine. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the talents of the wrestlers. AJ and Kaitlyn are very popular and if WWE just gave them a proper feud instead of this bullshit I bet it would rate fine.
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Post by The Majestic Randaconda on May 13, 2013 23:24:35 GMT -5
It's pathetic how badly WWE dropped the ball with AJ in general they had a star last summer, and through some horrible booking decisions almost completely ruined it. Don't get me started on how the WWE killed Kaitlyn's momentum either. While I agree, somewhat, that AJ's booking wasn't the best, she's just not that talented, which means she can't keep momentum going.
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Post by HR on May 13, 2013 23:31:35 GMT -5
AJ's momentum was killed by poor booking (and John Cena). Absolutely nothing to do with her own failings. That's just a furphy invented by people who didn't like her from the start and didn't like a girl getting such a prominent role.
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Post by Richard on May 13, 2013 23:36:48 GMT -5
I think the wwe had no plans what so ever for AJ after Money in the bank and they thought the divas title was below her so they put her in the gm spot, which started her decline and then she went on a date with Cena and it all went downhill from there. You're right on point with her becoming GM because they had no idea what to do with her. However, she was still quite salvageable after that. I still think it was her most over point, even if most of the internet was completely tired of her by that time. The booking after that was just horrendous, though. Even worse than her GM reign. I've always considered the scandal as the beginning of the end, and her heel turn the absolute end to her push. Who knows though, they could've just put her in the division right after the GM thing and the fans could've lost majority of interest there as well. They've never been particularly interested in her wrestling without some involvement with the guys, which is unfortunate. Even though the booking wasn't as good as it could've been, it wasn't all that bad as she still got some really cool moments out of it. I'm just happy she still gets consistent TV time these days.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 23:43:56 GMT -5
If you don't like what's happening, just do what I've been doing since late last year and start channel surfing the moment you see that a Divas match is starting. Trust me, you'll be asking yourself why you haven't been doing this all along. And don't worry about feeling alone in doing this because the QH ratings show that on a typical Raw, a few hundred thousand viewers do the very same thing (and last week, it was nearly a million viewers tuning them out). When WWE treats the women like a joke, basically insulting you for watching the Divas, it's no surprise that people are tuning out. When the women are booked even remotely decently they do fine. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the talents of the wrestlers. AJ and Kaitlyn are very popular and if WWE just gave them a proper feud instead of this bullshit I bet it would rate fine. How often do you hear someone say they watched something, thought it was terrible, then said they wish it had been longer? It's pretty hard to get people to want to watch something for x minutes if they can't bring themselves to watch it for a fraction of x.
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Post by HR on May 13, 2013 23:51:11 GMT -5
When WWE treats the women like a joke, basically insulting you for watching the Divas, it's no surprise that people are tuning out. When the women are booked even remotely decently they do fine. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the talents of the wrestlers. AJ and Kaitlyn are very popular and if WWE just gave them a proper feud instead of this bullshit I bet it would rate fine. How often do you hear someone say they watched something, thought it was terrible, then said they wish it had been longer? It's pretty hard to get people to want to watch something for x minutes if they can't bring themselves to watch it for a fraction of x. So you're against women's wrestling even if it's of a high quality? That's good to know...
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 0:24:05 GMT -5
How often do you hear someone say they watched something, thought it was terrible, then said they wish it had been longer? It's pretty hard to get people to want to watch something for x minutes if they can't bring themselves to watch it for a fraction of x. So you're against women's wrestling even if it's of a high quality? That's good to know... Did not say anything even remotely close to that. I was saying that people generally don't request more of something if they don't enjoy the small samples they're given.
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Post by HR on May 14, 2013 0:32:44 GMT -5
So you're against women's wrestling even if it's of a high quality? That's good to know... Did not say anything even remotely close to that. I was saying that people generally don't request more of something if they don't enjoy the small samples they're given. What has that got to do with anything I originally said?
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on May 14, 2013 1:03:28 GMT -5
I think the blame should go to the person who felt the need to inject the no talent twins into their feud as a way to promote their shitty looking reality TV show that in all probability will most likely get cancelled after a few episodes.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2013 1:49:05 GMT -5
Did not say anything even remotely close to that. I was saying that people generally don't request more of something if they don't enjoy the small samples they're given. What has that got to do with anything I originally said? You said people would care if WWE treated the division better, right? Wouldn't that include giving them more time for their segments? I don't see how the division will get any better without at least a little bit more time. But the problem with that is that is that you would be asking people to watch more of something that (looking at the ratings) they don't even want to sit through for a mere 3-4 minutes. It's human nature to not want a lot of something (or at least more of it) if you were given a small amount and didn't like it.
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Post by The Majestic Randaconda on May 14, 2013 7:35:57 GMT -5
AJ's momentum was killed by poor booking (and John Cena). Absolutely nothing to do with her own failings. That's just a furphy invented by people who didn't like her from the start and didn't like a girl getting such a prominent role. No, she sucks. I'm not sexist, and don't like being accused of it. She just sucks.
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Post by bootytea on May 14, 2013 9:15:34 GMT -5
These girls should just stick to being valets or facing each other in pudding or something. Yeah, rather than booking the division correctly, we should punish the female wrestlers in the company by forcing them into misogynistic T&A segments that made WWE so uncomfortable to watch back in the doldrums of the late 90s/early 00s. It is the only way people are really going to care. I do not like it either, but that is the reality and if people do not care, their jobs are more in jeopardy than if they become known as the chick in that epic custard battle.
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Post by vanboxmeer on May 14, 2013 10:14:47 GMT -5
The truth is the moment the audience caught on to the fact that she was no longer an associated part of the Daniel Bryan act, is when things really fell off a cliff. Heck, when she was GM, the most over segment she was in was when they teased Bryan coming out being her supervisor to the GM position.
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