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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 6, 2015 22:43:30 GMT -5
Thinking of what they can do as far as title fights: Fabricio Werdum: Probably needs rest after 188 Chris Weidman: Likely holding off until year's end Rafael Dos Anjos: Likely out til December, maybe Main Event for December's FOX event against Cerrone? Mightymouse: Likely, but they're gonna need to stack the card behind him big time. Joanna Champion: Out from hand surgery There's no way Werdum is fighting at 191 as much as I'd like him to. I think his injury puts him out for a while longer. I meant more just for somewhere on the main card it would be cool to have a HW fight on there. I'm thinking it has to be MM in a title fight. Unless they just go with a big name like they did with Anderson Silva at 183 and skip the title fights. But UFC doesn't really have many names like that, they could use. Maybe Cain? That's a long shot. Dude never fights. If they're hoping for a quick turnaround from 189 I guess the WW Title could be up for grabs which would be cool. I don't see it happening though. The Interim FW also seems even less likely though in a perfect world Conor would win it at 189 then fight Aldo at 191, but that's not happening.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jul 7, 2015 0:57:25 GMT -5
The injury deal is getting really f****** ridiculous. Especially with the latest news on how Jose Aldo was actually cleared by the doctor to compete.
If you've been cleared to compete and you pull out anyway, and you're a champion, you should be stripped of the title. End of.
I don't even care who wins this weekend. I want whoever it is to knock Aldo's f****** teeth down his throat for calling Mendes a "pussy" last year and then pulling out of his fifth goddamned fight in the UFC. I'm tired of his shit and every other champion who drops out of a fight because of a blister.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 7, 2015 8:08:10 GMT -5
The injury deal is getting really f****** ridiculous. Especially with the latest news on how Jose Aldo was actually cleared by the doctor to compete. If you've been cleared to compete and you pull out anyway, and you're a champion, you should be stripped of the title. End of. I don't even care who wins this weekend. I want whoever it is to knock Aldo's f****** teeth down his throat for calling Mendes a "pussy" last year and then pulling out of his fifth goddamned fight in the UFC. I'm tired of his shit and every other champion who drops out of a fight because of a blister. I think UFC should mandate that a champ needs to defend his or her title every 6 months. If he or she cannot then they are stripped. None of this interim title BS. I mean really. Are 2 title fights a year from someone that much to ask for?
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Post by xtremehorseman on Jul 7, 2015 16:52:45 GMT -5
The injury deal is getting really f****** ridiculous. Especially with the latest news on how Jose Aldo was actually cleared by the doctor to compete. If you've been cleared to compete and you pull out anyway, and you're a champion, you should be stripped of the title. End of. I don't even care who wins this weekend. I want whoever it is to knock Aldo's f****** teeth down his throat for calling Mendes a "pussy" last year and then pulling out of his fifth goddamned fight in the UFC. I'm tired of his shit and every other champion who drops out of a fight because of a blister. Aldo was never cleared to fight, that was just UFC bullshit. Rib Fracture X-rays
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jul 7, 2015 19:58:13 GMT -5
The injury deal is getting really f****** ridiculous. Especially with the latest news on how Jose Aldo was actually cleared by the doctor to compete. If you've been cleared to compete and you pull out anyway, and you're a champion, you should be stripped of the title. End of. I don't even care who wins this weekend. I want whoever it is to knock Aldo's f****** teeth down his throat for calling Mendes a "pussy" last year and then pulling out of his fifth goddamned fight in the UFC. I'm tired of his shit and every other champion who drops out of a fight because of a blister. I think UFC should mandate that a champ needs to defend his or her title every 6 months. If he or she cannot then they are stripped. None of this interim title BS. I mean really. Are 2 title fights a year from someone that much to ask for? If the UFC did that then they would have strip everyone of their belts down the line because MMA is the kind of sport where getting injured and having to be out on the shelf for a while is always going to be a real possibility. Also Costas Philippou has announced that he has retired from MMA.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 7, 2015 20:17:07 GMT -5
I think UFC should mandate that a champ needs to defend his or her title every 6 months. If he or she cannot then they are stripped. None of this interim title BS. I mean really. Are 2 title fights a year from someone that much to ask for? If the UFC did that then they would have strip everyone of their belts down the line because MMA is the kind of sport where getting injured and having to be out on the shelf for a while is always going to be a real possibility. Also Costas Philippou has announced that he has retired from MMA. I think to make something like my idea work you have to really restructure the way cards are scheduled, but I think it is possible without having to strip champs. Like you said lots of injuries happen. Just make fights RIGHT AFTER the previous fight. Not saying they happen right after the previous fight, but have them scheduled. Perhaps 3 months down the line. A fair amount of time for some rest as well as a training camp. Then if an injury happens they get another three months to rest up. If the injury puts them out for longer than that, they get stripped but put in the number one ranked spot for the weight class so they can fight for the title when they heal up. That's just one way to do it. Like I said I think the way cards are set up would have to be changed considerably to make something like that work. MMA is still a very young sport and I think it is doable and would make championships more credible. After all the UFC shows are scheduled nothing like they were back in the tournament days. I think changing the way cards are set up again could help breathe a bit of life into the company.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 8, 2015 19:43:07 GMT -5
I found this to be a really nice breakdown of this weekend's main event:
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 8, 2015 21:05:21 GMT -5
Rashad Evans vs. Ryan Bader is being targeted for UFC 192.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 9, 2015 10:01:55 GMT -5
Rashad Evans vs. Ryan Bader is being targeted for UFC 192. Sounds like a fun fight. I'm still curious about 191. Ideally one of the title fight winners from 189 will do a quick turnaround and defend at 191. But...that's not happening. I like MM and all, but I could do without him headlining another PPV.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 9, 2015 19:22:32 GMT -5
Now Travis Browne is accused of beating his now ex-girlfriend.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jul 10, 2015 14:30:50 GMT -5
UFC have just confirmed that next year's International Fight Week will be on July 2nd at the brand new MGM Arena that's currently being built, and it will be UFC 200, which almost certainly will be built up as UFC's biggest ever PPV.
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Post by Shark on Jul 10, 2015 18:13:29 GMT -5
UFC have just confirmed that next year's International Fight Week will be on July 2nd at the brand new MGM Arena that's currently being built, and it will be UFC 200, which almost certainly will be built up as UFC's biggest ever PPV. Funniest thing about that is because they've had to cancel 2 events that last few years, it'll really be UFC 198 haha
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 12, 2015 17:08:31 GMT -5
Another fight has been added to the mysterious UFC 191 card. After no fights being announced since Van Zant/Chambers on June 24, the second announced fight is... ... A battle of the flyweights with Joseph Benavidez fighting Henry Cejudo!* Seriously people were fearing Mighty Mouse would main event and now a fight is finally announced and the flyweights on it aren't even fighting for the title! At this rate UFC 191 is going to make UFC 186 look like UFC 189. I was holding out hope that maybe, MAYBE one of the title winners from last night could do a quick turnaround and fight at 191 to help make the card. But after that all out war that Lawler/MacDonald fought good luck on either of them making it. Plus, Conor wants to fight on the October 24 Dublin card and has that Aldo fight looming somewhere around October or later. So, a WW or FW champ appearing on the card is just not happening. Werdum's injured Cormier's injured Weidman has declined fighting since his wife is due to give birth RDA's injured Dillashaw's fighting July 25 and won't have enough time for a camp by 191 Rousey's fighting on August 1 and has even less time for a camp Jedrzejczyk's injured Mighty Mouse is literally the only champion they have capable of fighting. He's not a good drawing champ and if he gets injured there just won't be any title fights at 191. Best case scenario now is that they have two fights between the biggest names they have available and Mighty Mouse defending the title. It could still be a decent card, but this latest announced fight doesn't feel me with confidence. Sure, Van Zant is pretty hot and it's cool that Cejudo is undefeated, but these aren't names to sell PPVs. I actually like UFC having a lot of events, but it's tough not to agree with the folks who say they are spreading themselves too thin. Really, when you expect folks to hand over their hard earned money for cards like 186 and this potential fiasco...yikes! *Source: mmasucka.com/2015/07/11/joseph-benavidez-takes-on-henry-cejudo-in-september/
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 12, 2015 19:00:13 GMT -5
I thought 186 was decent all things considered. But yeah, I love Mightymouse yet I know he is a horrible PPV draw. TV ratings, he is great.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 12, 2015 19:27:13 GMT -5
I thought 186 was decent all things considered. But yeah, I love Mightymouse yet I know he is a horrible PPV draw. TV ratings, he is great. Average UFC Fan: I'll watch this flyweight championship fight, but I'm not paying for it!
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 12, 2015 19:30:39 GMT -5
I thought 186 was decent all things considered. But yeah, I love Mightymouse yet I know he is a horrible PPV draw. TV ratings, he is great. Average UFC Fan: I'll watch this flyweight championship fight, but I'm not paying for it! Sad thing is that 178 and 186 had pretty solid main cards behind him and it couldn't help. Granted, the Rampage craziness may have hurt 186, but still.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 12, 2015 19:37:24 GMT -5
Average UFC Fan: I'll watch this flyweight championship fight, but I'm not paying for it! Sad thing is that 178 and 186 had pretty solid main cards behind him and it couldn't help. Granted, the Rampage craziness may have hurt 186, but still. 178 is a little hazy, but I didn't dig 186 that much. Almeida is a good fighter, but his and the second fight on the card were too short to get into. The Bisping fight wasn't too bad. As you mentioned the Rampage stuff kind of took the wind out of the sails of that fight. The MM fight was the best thing on the card and actually wasn't a bad fight by any stretch. That last second (literally) sub was pretty cool. But compared to the three PPV cards that followed 186 looks so weak in comparison.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 12, 2015 19:42:04 GMT -5
Sad thing is that 178 and 186 had pretty solid main cards behind him and it couldn't help. Granted, the Rampage craziness may have hurt 186, but still. 178 is a little hazy, but I didn't dig 186 that much. Almeida is a good fighter, but his and the second fight on the card were too short to get into. The Bisping fight wasn't too bad. As you mentioned the Rampage stuff kind of took the wind out of the sails of that fight. The MM fight was the best thing on the card and actually wasn't a bad fight by any stretch. That last second (literally) sub was pretty cool. But compared to the three PPV cards that followed 186 looks so weak in comparison. 178 had Cerrone vs. Alvarez as the co-main and also had McGregor vs. Poirier and the return of Cat Zingano on the main card.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 12, 2015 19:47:24 GMT -5
178 is a little hazy, but I didn't dig 186 that much. Almeida is a good fighter, but his and the second fight on the card were too short to get into. The Bisping fight wasn't too bad. As you mentioned the Rampage stuff kind of took the wind out of the sails of that fight. The MM fight was the best thing on the card and actually wasn't a bad fight by any stretch. That last second (literally) sub was pretty cool. But compared to the three PPV cards that followed 186 looks so weak in comparison. 178 had Cerrone vs. Alvarez as the co-main and also had McGregor vs. Poirier and the return of Cat Zingano on the main card. Thanks for the reminder! That was actually a really fun card (much better than 186!). It really benefited from being stacked. 191 could hypothetically do that as well, but it's just that so many good fighters are tied up at the moment. There is still some potential. Like the HWs have plenty of good fights and at least a couple that would be possible around than. Like Stipe/Cain or JDS/Overeem. Plus, Frankie Edgar is available...it just doesn't look like he has an opponent that would make sense right now. Holloway would make the most sense, but he fights too close to the event for a camp. I guess Edgar/Mendes could happen.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 13, 2015 16:13:50 GMT -5
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