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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 6, 2013 13:22:13 GMT -5
Judging by a thread that popped up on CHIKARA 101, it looks like the promotion might really be done. Supposedly the NDAs are up and Dasher, AssailAnt, Donst, Kobald, Ophidian and Amasis have all posted in a thread talking about their fondest memories, and one of the newer referees, Dan. Course, there was some evidence some time ago that most of these accounts are controlled, much like the blogs, by Quack. But...if legit, it's definitely sad and furthers the idea it isn't a storyline of some kind. Though it makes me wonder, as either most of them aren't talking about it or the way Dasher's posts came off...even most of the roster doesn't know why the company was shut down... So, the company suddenly ended without the talent being given any warning, they weren't given a straight answer about WHY the company folded.... and all of these guys are still willing to work for the same dude in the Wrestling Is promotions? It's either a confusing work or a depressing glimpse into the lives of indie wrestlers.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 6, 2013 13:38:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of it. Especially when Mantis made an account just to post in the thread. On the one hand, that seems a bit fishy. On the other, his actual post was so moving I find it hard to believe it wasn't legit.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 6, 2013 18:47:02 GMT -5
Judging by a thread that popped up on CHIKARA 101, it looks like the promotion might really be done. Supposedly the NDAs are up and Dasher, AssailAnt, Donst, Kobald, Ophidian and Amasis have all posted in a thread talking about their fondest memories, and one of the newer referees, Dan. Course, there was some evidence some time ago that most of these accounts are controlled, much like the blogs, by Quack. But...if legit, it's definitely sad and furthers the idea it isn't a storyline of some kind. Though it makes me wonder, as either most of them aren't talking about it or the way Dasher's posts came off...even most of the roster doesn't know why the company was shut down... Here's how I think of it. If "Never Compromise" really was the last-ever CHIKARA show and that's the way Quack wanted to end it, I sincerely hope he doesn't run the Wrestling Is promotions as he shouldn't book anymore.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 6, 2013 18:52:56 GMT -5
Whelp since this is probably the last Chikara thread for a while/ever,lets go out on a funny note : vampiro_vampiro: @chikarapro hey its vampiro,back in the game,would be down to work with you ! let me know Who wants to break the news to him?
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 6, 2013 18:56:57 GMT -5
Okay, yeah, that thread is a work. Bryce posted in it not long ago and he kept referencing Wink & Condor as the reason CHIKARA was shut down.
Still some touching posts in it, but at least it's a relief to know it isn't the end. Otherwise, I'd be sharing that sentiment, Amigo.
Though if it isn't, the end game to this whole thing is a little confusing...Still, I guess the trickle of little bits & pieces of information might continue through the summer.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 8, 2013 19:33:41 GMT -5
Icarus just posted this at CHIKARA101:
The plot thickens....
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jul 8, 2013 19:45:58 GMT -5
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 8, 2013 19:47:41 GMT -5
Oh Friskey got the day wrong than.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 8, 2013 19:51:12 GMT -5
Damn, beaten to the punch as I just saw this on 101.
Shit just got real, folks.
And, Quack is a mad man.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Jul 8, 2013 19:54:39 GMT -5
I want to see Icarus travel the country to the places Chikara was going to go and stage sit ins.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 8, 2013 22:40:25 GMT -5
It can still be a shoot I mean a man that gets that tattooed on his back willingly clearly isn't of his right mind.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jul 8, 2013 23:27:48 GMT -5
I just love the fact that it took a storyline involving the entire company shutting down to turn Icarus face.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jul 9, 2013 4:33:42 GMT -5
Awwwwww snap, I'm excited.
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Post by Ragnal on Jul 9, 2013 9:04:16 GMT -5
So I just called the Palmer Center (where the next scheduled Chikara event was supposed to be, just a week prior to the next WiF! show), and they said nothing is scheduled for the 20th.
So either Icarus is going to storm the building, a free show outside of it, or he'll look for a new venue altogether.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 9, 2013 12:08:22 GMT -5
Considering the insane lengths Quack has gone to to try to convince people this was legit the shutting down of CHIKARA and how he's had venues keep quiet about CHIKARA's secret shows before this...
I wouldn't doubt that you're being worked by the venue.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jul 9, 2013 12:21:20 GMT -5
At any rate, the fact that Icarus' post nor the thread about the date spawned by it have been deleted seem to be a indicator that this is a legit part of the story, so maybe what EyeofTyr is saying might be true.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 10, 2013 14:19:16 GMT -5
Leonard F. Chikarason just called out the WMD mod on the 101 board...
...This should be interesting.
Also Billy Kumohara tweeted he'd be in Easton with Icarus...and he's bringing a camera crew!
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Post by Ragnal on Jul 10, 2013 17:17:32 GMT -5
According to WMD's profile, he hasn't been around the boards since July 1st, so good luck with that, Leo.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jul 10, 2013 22:40:20 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Eddie Kingston/Archibald Peck match from the next to last Chikara show and had a question. There are some people who seem to be making a huge deal over the fact that Lance Steel and The Swamp Monster were in the balcony and how this might have some sort of importance. However this wasn't even mentioned during the show by the commentary team nor was there a closeup of the two of them in the balcony. In fact, outside of a very small "Swamp Monster" chant, no one even seemed to care that they were up there. My experience with Chikara is VERY limited so I wanted to ask if they were subtle with things in the past that wound up having a huge payoff later on or are people really making a mountain out of a molehill?
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 10, 2013 23:10:46 GMT -5
I had a chance to watch the Eddie Kingston/Archibald Peck match from the next to last Chikara show and had a question. There are some people who seem to be making a huge deal over the fact that Lance Steel and The Swamp Monster were in the balcony and how this might have some sort of importance. However this wasn't even mentioned during the show by the commentary team nor was there a closeup of the two of them in the balcony. In fact, outside of a very small "Swamp Monster" chant, no one even seemed to care that they were up there. My experience with Chikara is VERY limited so I wanted to ask if they were subtle with things in the past that wound up having a huge payoff later on or are people really making a mountain out of a molehill? Let me give you a small example. Many years ago there was a match between Hydra, who was apart of UltraMantis Black's faction at the time, and Shane Storm. During the match, what looked like an innocent case of interference backfiring cost Hydra the match & gave Storm the win. Nearly a year later...it was outed that Mantis made a series of deals to get a powerful item known as the Eye of Tyr. One of these series of deals? In exchange for giving Shane Storm a win during a bad slump he was in, Storm would give him secret information about the CHIKARA Special, including it's counter. A submission hold Quackenbush had invented for the babyfaces & had been allowing them to pretty much run roughshod over the heels for some time. This seemingly random match was the first piece given to what would become the CHIKARA Special Saga, which birthed the Vin Gerard & Eye of Tyr ordeals, the latter of which led to the BDK coming into CHIKARA. Which led to Wink & WMD & co. coming into CHIKARA. So, yeah, CHIKARA's been known for it's subtlety in the past.
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