Isis The Amazon

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How isn't she big time yet? Surely the most marketable woman in all of wrestling right? I mean she's a 6'9 woman that screams WWE or TNA to me. Is she still in the business?

Here's some photos for those who are unaware of her:



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Screams "money" to me...

[TK The Friendly Robot]

She screams money to me too but apparently a little bit of porno and you're done these days. I honestly think she should be big league, she is very marketable.

[Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster]

She looks like a gigantic Kelly Osbourne in those pictures.

While I haven't seen any matches of her I've been told she is pretty much a female equivalent of Giant González in the ring.

[TK The Friendly Robot]

Jun 1, 2013 4:28:35 GMT -5 Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster said:

She looks like a gigantic Kelly Osbourne in those pictures.

While I haven't seen any matches of her I've been told she is pretty much a female equivalent of Giant González in the ring.

Yeah I've heard she's not very good but you don't have to be in Wrestling, you just have to be marketable and make the company you work for some bank. If she can be more like Khali and less like González then she'd be golden I think.

[Rave]

WWE fired her because she failed to disclose she did some fetish shoots, and TNA was s'posed to bring her in but opted for Chyna instead. Having seen the photos in question, I think WWE massively overreacted, since they were no worse than some of the stuff Kaitlyn did prior to her employment.

I've seen a few of her matches, and yes, she's terrible. Really though, that's not the attraction, though if she can get some decent training she could be Big Show level passable.

[jimmyjames]

I wonder if the size discrepancy between her and the other wrestlers is why promotions haven't signed her. It's hard enough to have male wrestlers of that size, let alone a female one. It would be pretty to make it believable that she could ever lose.

Before anyo says Awesome Kong, she's big physically, but nowhere near that height.ne

[TGM]

Such a missed opportunity.

[________ has left the building]

She just wasn't good in the ring. Outside of the freak show aspect, Isis didn't have the showmanship to distract folks from her wrestling abilities. I seen her indie work and it was not good. WWE was willing to ignore her shortcomings but she didn't do a full disclosure of her past. WWE was willing to work things out after news of her former fetish career cooled off but she decided to go on almost every wrestling podcast and radio show to talk. WWE killed her contract because she couldn't keep quiet. A few months later, TNA wanted her to play the role of Kurt Angle's mistress. Her tryout match bombed and TNA decided to go with a drugged out Chyna instead. I haven't heard anything from her in years so I'm assuming she has gone back into the fetish field.

[Mayonnaise]

Porn, sorry "adult modeling", past, not good in the ring and attitude issues despite doing all of jack and shit. They let you have one, two if the see money in you or like you but not all three.

[SOR]

What kind of attitude issues? Because surely she'd be a massive hit on the indies even if WWE and TNA didn't want her.

I mean if I were a promoter and I could bring a 6'9 woman to my promotion I'd do it in a heart beat.

[Mayonnaise]

Jun 1, 2013 8:39:02 GMT -5 SOR said:

What kind of attitude issues? Because surely she'd be a massive hit on the indies even if WWE and TNA didn't want her.

I mean if I were a promoter and I could bring a 6'9 woman to my promotion I'd do it in a heart beat.

She was acting like a huge WWE star, demanding things, raised her booking fee and wanting booking changes based on one video on NXT 2.

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Jun 1, 2013 5:10:04 GMT -5 Rave said:

WWE fired her because she failed to disclose she did some fetish shoots, and TNA was s'posed to bring her in but opted for Chyna instead. Having seen the photos in question, I think WWE massively overreacted, since they were no worse than some of the stuff Kaitlyn did prior to her employment.

I've seen a few of her matches, and yes, she's terrible. Really though, that's not the attraction, though if she can get some decent training she could be Big Show level passable.

Big Show level passable!? Show is not bad in the ring at all. Isis was straight up bad last I saw, and outside of the freak show aspect of her being huge she doesn't bring much else to the table.

[kamotengkahoy]

Imagine if she wasn't fired and ended up in FCW. Love angle with Eli Cottonwood. Future Wyatt Family members

[zeez]

Jun 1, 2013 11:41:47 GMT -5 kamotengkahoy said:

Imagine if she wasn't fired and ended up in FCW. Love angle with Eli Cottonwood. Future Wyatt Family members

I don't want to because then Kaitlyn wouldn't have shown up on TV when she did.

[ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul]

Jun 1, 2013 8:39:02 GMT -5 SOR said:

What kind of attitude issues? Because surely she'd be a massive hit on the indies even if WWE and TNA didn't want her.

I mean if I were a promoter and I could bring a 6'9 woman to my promotion I'd do it in a heart beat.

Really the issue I have with as a fan with Isis is this: And then what?

That is the problem with spectacle, the 'Oooh' and 'Ahh' is great and certainly a worthwhile thing to pursue. But do you have a plan afterwards? Without it the spectacle becomes a burden.

I mean, even I would use her for the occasional spot show (despite her skill). But unless I had a defined plan for her persistent presence in a promotion, then she could easily weaken/invalidate a men's division or a women's division. And she does pose a problem for booking plans when she is featured regularly. Especially if she has a bad attitude or is prone to personality conflicts with management or other talents.

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Jun 1, 2013 19:50:32 GMT -5 ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul said:

Jun 1, 2013 8:39:02 GMT -5 SOR said:

What kind of attitude issues? Because surely she'd be a massive hit on the indies even if WWE and TNA didn't want her.

I mean if I were a promoter and I could bring a 6'9 woman to my promotion I'd do it in a heart beat.

Really the issue I have with as a fan with Isis is this: And then what?

That is the problem with spectacle, the 'Oooh' and 'Ahh' is great and certainly a worthwhile thing to pursue. But do you have a plan afterwards? Without it the spectacle becomes a burden.

I mean, even I would use her for the occasional spot show (despite her skill). But unless I had a defined plan for her persistent presence in a promotion, then she could easily weaken/invalidate a men's division or a women's division. And she does pose a problem for booking plans when she is featured regularly. Especially if she has a bad attitude or is prone to personality conflicts with management or other talents.

Well obvviusly you'd use her a female Andre The Giant booking wise. Unstoppable monster maybe even have her beat some men until a woman you want to push comes along and eventually beats her.

The issue definitely is professionalism though, if what people on here are saying is true I'd hate to of booked her and then be held up for money or have someone acting like a superstar on my card.

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I don't see the dollar signs at all. She's a tall woman.

Yay?

Obviously people paid to see Andre, but Andre, she ain't. She's not particularly attractive, sucks in the ring, and apparently has a bad attitude. Literally the only selling point is that she's almost 7 feet tall.

This is generally my feeling on all freak show characters though.

[Ultimo Gallos]

Plus I doubt she is a legit 6'9". Friend of mine got a picture with her at a AIW show. He is 6'1" tops and she looks to be maybe 5 inches taller than him.

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Jun 1, 2013 20:28:36 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

I don't see the dollar signs at all. She's a tall woman.

Yay?

Obviously people paid to see Andre, but Andre, she ain't. She's not particularly attractive, sucks in the ring, and apparently has a bad attitude. Literally the only selling point is that she's almost 7 feet tall.

This is generally my feeling on all freak show characters though.

Well Chyna is like 5'10 and 180 according to Wikipedia and look at how much money she made because she was bigger than all the Diva's and was seen as someone who could stand up to the men.

This chick is almost a foot taller and has 60 pounds on Chyna. She could be the biggest monster women's heel (Or babyface) ever and is taller than a lot of male wrestlers out there.

[ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul]

Jun 1, 2013 20:03:22 GMT -5 SOR said:

Jun 1, 2013 19:50:32 GMT -5 ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul said:

Really the issue I have with as a fan with Isis is this: And then what?

That is the problem with spectacle, the 'Oooh' and 'Ahh' is great and certainly a worthwhile thing to pursue. But do you have a plan afterwards? Without it the spectacle becomes a burden.

I mean, even I would use her for the occasional spot show (despite her skill). But unless I had a defined plan for her persistent presence in a promotion, then she could easily weaken/invalidate a men's division or a women's division. And she does pose a problem for booking plans when she is featured regularly. Especially if she has a bad attitude or is prone to personality conflicts with management or other talents.

Well obvviusly you'd use her a female Andre The Giant booking wise. Unstoppable monster maybe even have her beat some men until a woman you want to push comes along and eventually beats her.

The issue definitely is professionalism though, if what people on here are saying is true I'd hate to of booked her and then be held up for money or have someone acting like a superstar on my card.

Yeah, she did kind react poorly on twitter. But then she is young. And I don't know how she reacted personally. Probably another example of when keepin' in real goes wrong.

As for Andre booking, the problem is that latent sexism will be a problem when booking a female in this fashion. Especially if you have the blowoff being a female taking her down. Because then you have said this woman is stronger than all the men who failed to beat her.

I would argue that WCW and WWE showed that regular, consistent, and logical booking of a 'giant' can be problematic.