TMNT Mafia Aftermath Thread

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Thanks for playing, everyone. I was disappointed a lot of the time because of the inactivity, but I appreciate everyone who gave full effort, and the ending was pretty exciting. Mafia wins again!


ROLE PMS

Yami Redgrave #1 was...

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{Spoiler} Leonardo!



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You are the oldest turtle brother and a natural born leader. You've dedicated your life to your Ninjutsu training and to protecting your friends, family, and New York city. You're a master of the katana, but in this game, your other abilities will be a much bigger asset. Lead the town to victory by using your keen strategic mind and stealth to weed out those threatening your livelihood. You are the Cop. PM me every night and let me know who you want to take a closer look at. Your investigations will play a major role in the success of this Town, so choose wisely.

Double H #1 was...

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{Spoiler}Michelangelo!



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You're as skilled and as talented as your brothers, but you never take anything too seriously, developing your reputation as the "party dude" of the group. But who says being fun-loving is a bad thing? You're a master of Ninjutsu and an expert in the use of nunchaku, but in this game, that won't help you much. Your ability to stay cool and calm down tense situations may help you in this game, but you have no actual powers beyond your ability to vote. This means you're a Vanilla Townie who is anything but vanilla!

Orange was...

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{Spoiler}Raphael!



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Your mastery of Ninjutsu and expertise with your sai are sometimes overshadowed by your sarcasm and wit. In other turtle series you're confrontational and jealous of your older brother, but here, you're much more content to crack a joke at Leonardo's expense than to challenge his leadership. But you'll still mock him... oh will you mock him. A biting sense of humor aside, you have no other real abilities in this game. This means you're a Vanilla Townie. But feel free to insult the opposition into submission!

Zack Morris was...

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{Spoiler}Casey Jones!



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Over the years Casey Jones became a much more lovable character... but in this series? Well let's just say you're more than a little bit insane. You take out the bad guys with any piece of athletic equipment that you can get your hands on and cause some serious damage despite no formal training. You treat all criminals and any offense with the same amount of violence and show no mercy. You're a loner, but in this game you're going to have to work together with your fellow Townspeople to protect New York city from a great threat. I'm sure you've got something in that bag of your's to stop evil in it's tracks, so you'll be acting as Roleblocker for the Town. Send me a PM once every Night Phase declaring who you want to use your ability on. Being the Roleblocker allows you to stop one person of your choosing from using their ability that night. Use your power wisely and hope you make the right decisions!

Connor Mackenzie was...

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{Spoiler}The Shredder!



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Surprised to see that green on your name? That's right, you're fighting on the side of the Town. You were once the most evil man in New York City, but now there's a threat to your throne. It's in your best interest to take out that threat and reassert your dominance before it's too late. The prospect of working with the Town has left a bad taste in your mouth, but you have no other choice. The Town may be weery of trusting you, but your bladed armor may very well be your best friend in this game. Armor combined with cunning have made you Bulletproof. This means you cannot be killed during a Night Phase, no matter what. The only way you die in this game is if you're lynched during a Day Phase. So.. you'd better get to work earning the trust of your fellow Townies!

... and why do you sound so much like Uncle Phil?

*MOD's NOTE*: Since this ability is so powerful, you must not reveal your role to anyone, no matter what. This must be kept a secret from your fellow players.

Sloth Spartan #1 was...

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{Spoiler}Master Splinter!



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You're the man rat that raised the turtles and guided them to fight for good. Now you find yourself back in the fight as you help protect New York and the Town from grave danger. You're a skilled fighter, no doubt, but your word is your weapon here. When you speak, everyone listens, earning yourself the role of the Governor. This means you have the ability to save lives. Once a lynch has occured, you must send me a Private Message and tell me that you want to stop the lynch. If you stop a lynch, the lynchee will be spared and continue on in the game, and the Night Phase will go on as normal. This power is not limitless, however. You can prevent a lynch TWICE, but you cannot save the same person from being lynched both times. You can, however, use it on yourself if need be. I'd tell you to be wise with your power, but you're Splinter... there's no one with more wisdom than you!


*MOD NOTE: Since your ability needs to be in before the Night Phase can begin, please try and be prompt with your decision to use or not use it. This could hold up the game if you take too long with your decisions. Remember, you can only use your power TWICE. Good luck!

Cageking/Double H #2/stinger4christ #2 was...

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{Spoiler}April O'Neil!



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Since when is a yellow jumpsuit standard television reporter wear? You're a reporter for Channel 6 news and an ally and friend to the turtles, which always seems to lead you right into the middle of the action. Now you find yourself not only reporting on New York City, but doing your best to defend it against a great threat. It's up to you and the rest of your Townspeople to save your city and avoid certain doom!

Unfortunately for you, you've been kidnapped more times than you'd care to admit. This means you can be a hinderance more than a help at times, earning yourself the role of Beloved Princess. If you are lynched during the day or killed at any point, you will die and we will forego the next Day Phase and go straight into another Night Phase. Ouch. That one's going to hurt the Town. So stay smart and stay safe!

Produceman was...

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{Spoiler}Krang!



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You're a criminal mastermind... who is literally a mind! Cheesy joke aside, people do take you seriously. You have an IQ twenty times that of a human being, giving you the ability to think 9 steps ahead of most others. Unfortunately your arrogance keeps you from ever achieving your goals, and now you find yourself fighting on the side of the Town. Your intelligence and insight into the criminal mind will be helpful, but no one trusts you enough to give you any sort of real power aside from your vote. You're a Vanilla Townie, but that shouldn't stop you from defeating those who threaten your spot as Earth's greatest evil genius. Plus you've got an android body... that's pretty radical.

Hawkeye Jefferson/Yami Redgrave #2 was...

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{Spoiler}Leatherhead!


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You're an alligator with a cajun accent who hates the Ninja Turtles... except now there's a new threat for you to turn your attention towards. You've emerged from the Florida Neverglades (yes, that's your home) to hunt down scum and by proxy, work with the Town. You've got a mean streak and a deadly bite, but not much else on your side... Unless you count that stylish vest. You have no ability outside of your vote, making you a Vanilla Townie. Still. You're a mutant alligator. Who else can say that?

"The Fresh Prince" Magiconz was...

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{Spoiler}Irma Langinstein!



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You're the receptionist at Channel 6 and a bit of a klutz, but you're a lovable klutz. If only you could stop being kidnapped and mutated by bad guys! I mean... look at your list of misfortunes in that wikia. All of those incidents have you more driven than ever to help the Town and destroy the threat once and for all. Because once the scum is gone, there's no way for you to be mutated into a rat or into a 50 foot tall woman, right? You don't have any power besides your ability to vote, but who would trust you not to klutz a power up anyway? This means you're a Vanilla Townie, but there's more to this game than power. So use your distinct skills (whatever they may be) to show New York that you're not a dingbat! ... And please... watch your step.

Hayden/Sloth Spartan #2 was...

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{Spoiler}Vernon Fenwick!



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You're a cameraman for Channel 6, but if you had it your way, you'd take April O'Neil's job as a reporter. Unfortunately, you're a giant coward. I'm talking massive levels of cowardice. You run at the first sign of trouble, and it's surely not earning you any respect around the station. But is it cowardice, or are you the only one smart enough to stay out of the line of trouble? Now there's a grave danger facing your city, and you're going to do what you do best: run. You're the Hider. What does that mean for you? During each Night Phase, you will send me a PM telling me who you want to hide behind. If you're targeted for a kill during the Night Phase, you will not be killed. However, if you hide behind the person targeted for the night kill. The person you're hiding behind dies... and YOU die as well. Choose wisely. Let your cowardice be your strength!

Mr B Natural was...

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{Spoiler}Burne Thompson!



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You're the editor for Channel 6 and a certified turtle hater. You blame them for every crime commited in New York, and you're quite the loudmouth. At the end of the day though, you believe in reporting the truth, so you must have SOME good in you. You're on the side of the Town after all. You'll use your status as editor and your desire for truth to find and elimate all scum terrorizing New York City. However, you can be quite a terror yourself. People respect you, but at the same time... nobody really likes you. This makes you the Hated Townie. This means it will take one less vote to lynch you than a normal Townie. I'm only telling you this as a friend.

Artificial Human #1 was...

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{Spoiler}Dirk Savage!



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You're a mutant bounty hunter. It's good work if you can get it, but now you have a bigger job: scum hunter. You've been hired to help weed out the scum infiltrating New York City, and you're not getting paid until the city is safe again! Work together with your fellow townies to achieve your goal, even without any special abilities. You're a Vanilla Townie, but you've got a vote... and that's a powerful weapon in and of itself. Catch all the scum and earn your paycheck!

Now explain the eyepatch to me...

stinger4christ #1 was...

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{Spoiler}Dr. Baxter Stockman/The Fly!



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You were once just a normal scientist trying to live an honest life. Man does that seem like forever ago. Skip ahead to the point where you were mutated with a fly... and someone would understand why you'd be angry. But you were never really that bad of a guy, were you? Some bad turns in your life backed you into a corner, but now is your time to get it right. You don't trust anyone, but you still find yourself on the side of the Town. They don't realize how lucky they are to have a brilliant scientist on their side, do they? You'll use your genius and scientific skills to protect your fellow townspeople as the Town Doctor. This means during every Night Phase, you will send me a PM telling me who you want to protect from danger during that night. You can protect anyone (including yourself), but you cannot protect the same person on two consecutive nights. Whoever you protect will be immune from Night Kills on that night. Make your choices wisely, Dr. Stockman, and avoid giant fly swatters at all costs!

The Man They Call Asher was...

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{Spoiler}Zach!



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You have affectionately been referred to as the "Fifth Turtle" by the Ninja Turtles. That's high praise for such a young kid. You've got a lot of heart and a drive to help protect the city from all threats. You've got a hockey stick, but I'm not sure how much it's going to help you in this game. Your status as a young boy who wants to be just like your heroes has earned you the title of Innocent Child. This means that at any point in the game you see fit, you can send me a PM and I will declare to all other players that you are an Innocent Child, and are Town-aligned. This power is a double-edge sword, so use it wisely. You're the most powerful pre-teen in New York City!

Lodi "Wyatt" Rulz was...

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{Spoiler}The Rat King!



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With a height listed as "tall enough" and weight of "one heavy dude", who couldn't help but love you? Okay... most people don't... but those rats certainly do! I don't know how one becomes anointed 'Rat King', but you've done it and you're proving it to be an apt name. You've used your rodents for evil, and now it's time to use them to help catch some scum. Because how are you going to run the New York sewer system if there are no sewers left to run? It's science. You're not so bad after all, Rat King. Aside from your vote, you have no other powers, meaning you're a Vanilla Townie. But don't be afraid to play the royalty card for respect. People love a good monarch!

Jonathan Michaels was...

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{Spoiler}Metalhead!



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Originally developed as a way to combat the turtles, you've been given personality traits from all four of the half-shelled ninjas. That many personalities makes you a little crazy, but it also gives you and advantage no one else has. You've recently been reprogramed to fight on the side of the Town and you've managed to lean to control your multiple personalities... and even learned to imitate some others. These skills have earned you a very special ability in this game. You are the Jack of All Trades! This means you have four distinct one-use abilities. PM me on nights you decide to use your abilities and tell me whether you want to protect someone from a kill (and who you want to protect), investigate someone (and who you want to investigate), roleblock someone (and who you're blocking), or kill someone (and who you want to kill). Choose carefully, because you can only use each ability ONCE and then it's gone for good. This is a lot of power... don't let it go to your head!

*MOD's NOTE*: In case you're new to the game, I'll explain the four unique abilities. Roleblocking someone keeps them from achieving their goals for that night. If they're trying to use an ability, they won't be able to, and if they're trying to kill someone, they'll be blocked. Protecting someone will keep them from being killed during that night phase. Investigating someone will tell you whether they're alignment in-game. And killing someone... well... that speaks for itself.

Evil M/Artificial Human #2 was...

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{Spoiler}Donatello!



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You can only take so much disrespect. People mocked your purple mask... they said your Bo Staff was "lame"... and they called you a nerd. Nobody would ever expect poor, little sweet Donnie to turn evil. You're sick and tired of being though of as nothing more than a tech-geek, and you are determined to show the world what you truly are: an evil genius! You've got your team ready and you're going to prove that you're superior to your brothers in every way. You're the Mafia Godfather, which means you're in control. You PM me every night to tell me who will be performing your Mafia team's Night Kill every night, and which of you will be doing the killing. You've also got the power of manipulation on your side. If anyone investigates you, you will turn up as being innocent. You're the man now, Donnie. Corruption is always a little more fun, isn't it?

*MOD's NOTE*: In some Mafia games, the Godfather is immune to Night Kills. This IS NOT the case here. You can still be killed at any time.

Wolf Hurricane was...

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{Spoiler}Bebop!



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You were once a regular human punk until Shredder mutated you into the human/warthog hybrid you are today. He made you one of his right hand men, but Shredder's not around anymore, is he? You're not smart enough to go out on your own, so your new boss inherited you. You continually find yourself on the side of the scum, but the role fits you to a T. You're scum to the core. Now you're one of the new bosses' right hand man and he's entrusted you with a special ability. You are the Framer of the Mafia. This means every night you have to ability to frame one person of your choosing. You will PM me the name of the person you want to frame, and if that person is investigated by anyone, he will come up as guilty of being scum. You're basically signing this guy's death warrant! Looks like you're moving up in the world!

Big Bad Brad was...

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{Spoiler}Rocksteady!



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You were once a regular human punk until Shredder mutated you into the human/rhino hybrid you are today. He made you one of his right hand men, but Shredder's not around anymore, is he? You're not smart enough to go out on your own, so your new boss inherited you. You continually find yourself on the side of the scum, but the role fits you to a T. You're scum to the core. Now you're one of the new bosses' right hand man and he's entrusted you with a special ability. You are the Janitor of the Mafia. You'll PM me and tell me that you want to use your ability, and whoever the victim of that night's kill will not have his/her role revealed to the Town. The Mafia will know what the role was after the fact, but the Town will remain clueless. Want to cause confusion within the Town? This is your chance. You will be limited to THREE uses of this ability though, so use it wisely. Don't screw this one up!

BoilerRoomBrawler was...

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{Spoiler}Alpha One!



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Shredder created you to lead his robot Foot Clan, but you were just a little too smart for that. You revolted against your creators to try and take over Earth... but Shredder's not around anymore, is he? Your new boss truly recognizes your intelligence and has brought you into the fold as the Roleblocker for the Mafia. This means every Night Phase you and your Mafia partners will decide who you want to keep from achieving your goals for that night. Your block will cancel out that person's night actions and possibly safe a mafiaso's life. You have command over the entire Foot Clan army, so I'm sure you can keep your choice busy during the night. You want to send Earthlings to Dimension X and take Earth for yourself? Now's your chance!

Joker was...

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{Spoiler}Lord Dregg!



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You're the galatic overlord who gets no respect. You were the Turtles main adversary for some time, and still nobody seems to remember you. How could they forget all the havoc you brought to Earth? You've always been overshadowed by the Shredder and other villains, but now you're going to step out of the shadow. You're going to conquer not only New York, but the entire world! You're a brilliant master strategist with the ability to drain the life and power from all those that oppose you. You're the Serial Killer that stands alone against the inferior beings. Every other Night Phase, you'll send me a PM telling me who you want to kill on that night. You win this game when you're the last overlord standing. Earth will be your's!

*MOD's NOTE*: Remember. You send in a kill every other night phase. You have no ability on the night phase between your kills.

LIST OF NIGHT ACTIONS:

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{Spoiler}Night 1:
- Zack Morris is Insane roleblocks Artificial Human. (Failed)
- stinger4christ protects The Shareholder Called Asher. (Safe)
- Hayden hides behind Sloth Spartan. (Safe)
- Jono investigates BoilerRoomBrawler. (Guilty)
- Yami Redgrave investigates Mr. B Natural Believes. (Innocent)
- Evil sMurfy kills Double H. (Success)
- Wolf Hurricane frames Artificial Human.
- BoilerRoomBrawler roleblocks Zack Morris is Insane. (Success)
- Joker chooses not to use his Serial Kill.

Night 2:
- Jono protects himself. (Success)
- Joker kills Lodi "Riddler" Rulz. (Success)
- stinger4christ protects Jono. (Success)
- Hayden hides behind Orange. (Success)
- Zack Morris is Insane Roleblocks Artificial Human. (Fails)
- Yami Redgrave investigates Zack Morris is Insane. (Fails)
- Brad kills Zack Morris is Insane. (Success)
- Brad janitors Zack Morris. (Success)
- Wolf Hurricane frames Yami Redgrave. (Fails)

Night 3:
-Jono kills Artificial Human. (Success)
-stinger4christ protects Asher. (Success)
-Yami investigates Orange. (Innocent)
-Brad kills Spartan. (Success)
-Wolf Hurricane frames Yami.

Night 4:
-stinger4christ protects Yami. (Failure)
-Jono roleblocks Wolf Hurricane. (Success)
-Spartan #2 hides behind Double H #2. (Success)
-Artificial Human #2 kills stinger4christ. (Success)
-Wolf Hurricane frames Yami. (Failure)
-Brad janitors stinger4christ. (Success)
-Yami Redgrave investigates Wolf Hurricane. (Guilty)

Night 5:
-Artificial Human #2 kills Yami Redgrave. (Success)
-Sloth Spartan #2 hides behind Double H #2/stinger4christ #2 (Success)
-Yami Redgrave investigates AH #2. (Failed)

Night 6:
-Artificial Human #2 kills Produceman. (Success)


Night 7:
-Artificial Human #2 kills Sloth Spartan #2. (Failed)
-Sloth Spartan #2 hides behind Orange. (Success)
-Yami Redgrave #2 is mod-killed.

Night 8:
-Artificial Human #2 kills stinger4christ #2.
-Sloth Spartan #2 hides behind Orange. (Success)

Night 9:
-Sloth Spartan #2 hides behind Orange. (Success)
-Artificial Human #2 kills The Man Called Asher (Success)

Night 10:
-Sloth Spartan #2 hides behind Mr B Natural. (Ouch)
-Artificial Human #2 kills Mr B Natural: Wyatt Guy and Sloth Spartan #2. (Success)

Mafia Hideout: www.quicktopic.com/50/H/3KMRCifmfkkEB

Thread where a few of us discussed the game (Not much happened there): www.quicktopic.com/50/H/B3fG4BYiPE3

LIST OF PLAYERS
Jonathan Michaels
Wolf Hurricane
Magic knows Black Lives Matter
Brandon Walsh is Insane.
stinger
lodirulz
No Longer a Produceman
Mochi Lone Wolf
MrBRulzOK
Orange
Big Bad Brad
Connor Mackenzie
'Foretold' Joker
The Man They Call Asher
TOO SWEET
BoilerRoomBrawler

[No Longer a Produceman]

How the Hell did town lose this game?? We had it!!

Hats off to mafia...you earned it.

[Connor Mackenzie]

Oh Shredder...so close to being the hero in the end.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

1. When we discussed our gameplay in our thread, we operated based on the practical assumption that the town knew at least one, if not two, of the remaining mafia players. So, we decided that we had to be very early with our votes once they started coming in for each other. Then, I decided out of the blue to throw Brad under the bus since I knew that he was probably one of the top targets for the next lynch. The hope was that by taking the initiative and then acting all humble about the rest of the game, I could clear my name and then fall into the shadows for the rest of the game and play as I usually did to keep everyone off track. It was really risky strategy but I knew it would pay dividends once it worked. Feels like it did work, not just because we won, but because I pretty much stayed off everyone's radar for the rest of the game. I didn't really get any sort of actual scrutiny until the last day phase when it was just down to three.

2. I was pretty inspired personally by Single H's gameplay in DBZ:Abridged mafia to try and go it alone for the rest of the game and knew that with my cunning and improving strategy skill, I could do it.


Thanks for the good game guys and thanks to Notorious for allowing me to play and try some new things as a mafia player. I'll be taking a break from mafia games for a while but I'll be watching the others until I decide to come back.

['Foretold' Joker]

Interesting game for the short while I was involved, didn't really have much of a game plan to be honest, serial killer who can only kill every other day made it kind of tricky.

[TOO SWEET]

Feel foolish, but amazing job AH.

EDIT: And congratulations to all of the mafia for the win.

[Connor Mackenzie]

I was fairly confident about picking up on AH, just wish I had picked up on it sooner than the final day.

But congrats to mafia on a hard fought win.

[Brandon Walsh is Insane.]

Jul 2, 2013 17:04:38 GMT -5 'Foretold' Joker said:

Interesting game for the short while I was involved, didn't really have much of a game plan to be honest, serial killer who can only kill every other day made it kind of tricky.

You not killing the first night made me think that I had successfully roleblocked Artificial and prevented a kill, so I *knew* he was mafia.

Good job on that front.

[BoilerRoomBrawler]

Well, Town got close. I'll give them that.

[The Man They Call Asher]

Jul 2, 2013 17:50:38 GMT -5 BoilerRoomBrawler said:

Well, Town got close. I'll give them that.

Guess they couldn't keep calm long enough to lynch some more Mafia, eh?

[Big Bad Brad]

My Mafia record is still intact I believe its 5-0 right now though I wouldn't of been disappointed if the town won the town doesn't win to often but a wins a win

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My question is for the lovely Sloth Spartan.

Spartan... I was really confused by your vote for Orange in the next to last Day Phase. You hid behind him on consecutive Night Phases and didn't die, so I thought for sure you'd have him in your confirmed Townie pile and defend him. I could not understand why you made that vote.

So what was the reasoning there?

[Wolf Hurricane]

This is probably the first Mafia I've followed after being killed off and I yessed out loud when JoMo voted to bring the hammer down on Connor. You played it cool as a cucumber, AH. Well done.

[Connor Mackenzie]

Jul 2, 2013 18:57:58 GMT -5 Wolf Hurricane said:

This is probably the first Mafia I've followed after being killed off and I yessed out loud when JoMo voted to bring the hammer down on Connor. You played it cool as a cucumber, AH. Well done.

Just gotta rub that in a liiiiiitle bit dontcha Wolf?

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Jul 2, 2013 18:57:58 GMT -5 Wolf Hurricane said:

This is probably the first Mafia I've followed after being killed off and I yessed out loud when JoMo voted to bring the hammer down on Connor. You played it cool as a cucumber, AH. Well done.

Thanks man. This one's for all of us. Not just me.

Yeah, I think the biggest difference between version 1 and version 2 was my attitude. I was much more impulsive and defensive in my first version and I think that's what set quite a few people's alarms and I can't say I blame you in any way for framing me. I played pretty much the same way as I always do in both versions but I was much calmer and more deliberate this time around.


Also, looking at the night phases and thinking back during the day phases, I think a sort of rivalry is starting in mafia games between Yami Daimao and me. As someone who is pretty competitive, I like that. Yami is a great player to so that makes it even better.

[TOO SWEET]

Jul 2, 2013 18:22:42 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

My question is for the lovely Sloth Spartan.

Spartan... I was really confused by your vote for Orange in the next to last Day Phase. You hid behind him on consecutive Night Phases and didn't die, so I thought for sure you'd have him in your confirmed Townie pile and defend him. I could not understand why you made that vote.

So what was the reasoning there?

Well, two things.

I had no real feeling one way or the other with Orange. I'd been picking randomly and chose Orange at the last second. When it turned out our town princess was killed, I just went with Orange again. There was no real feeling or conviction one way or the other.

As for the vote on him, with the lack of activity and no real other person with momentum, it seemed smart to go with the flow and hopefully wind up correct. I had terrible reads throughout the game, so I was willing to give others thoughts a fair chance.

Obviously with hindsight, I made the wrong call and should of opted for not voting and hoping for no lynch to occur. But I also was incorrect throughout the entire game regarding the number of mafia, so I just don't think I was very sharp or smart at all this game. I'll admit that I did a really crappy job this game and any town successes were definitely completely despite me, not because of.

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I personally couldn't believe you stopped getting any Mafia heat whatsoever, AH. Nobody seemed to notice that once Brad got killed off, you started to try and control discussions more, and you bumped the thread more, and got more involved. Nobody calling you on that surprised the heck out of me.

And one other thing that I was wondering about, and this one goes to Jono.

On the other hand, what are the odds that every single role that had to be replaced was a town role?

I think that was about the likelihood of Connor being Mafia, but AH was the one who was a replacement player. Connor was the same character the entire game. I'm probably just reading it wrong, but could you clarify that?


And while I'm here, I'd like to point out how Connor's Bulletproof Townie role and B Natural's Hated Townie role never came into play at all. Also, the Mafia somehow landing perfectly with their Janitoring, cleaning both the Roleblocker and the Doctor. No one outside of the Mafia knew that those two were dead. I'd have been tempted to claim myself as the Roleblocker once the Cop were killed. In fact, at one point I was wondering why Artificial Human #2 wasn't doing that. It was a smart move on his part though, because I just know that if he had claimed to be the Roleblocker or Doctor, someone would have asked for a list of all his actions thus far, and that's likely where a slip up would have happened.

[Connor Mackenzie]

And you can attest to this Notorious but late game I was wanting to try and hint on my role but as everyone can now see I was limited on how much I could divulge. I was hoping this might have clued someone in...

Jun 21, 2013 12:48:30 GMT -5 Connor Mackenzie said:

Just to address you Sloth. My reasoning for voting early for Joker is based on the reasoning I gave for the vote. He was shady to me, and with everything going on I felt he was someone that I thought needed to be lynched.

I'm being more forward this day phase is that with the lose of our confirmed town as well as two others I felt that sitting back to watch things unfold was not for the best of the town now. With being so close to getting these last couple of mafia out I want to see a town win. I just felt confident in what I was seeing. Sometimes we need to make a leap of faith when we don't have all of the information. If I'm wrong about Orange then I'm sorry but I don't think we can let inactivity be the rule for these last day phases.

As for what to make of me Sloth, I point to your very post and your observations. I haven't been killed. As to whether I've been targetted your guess is as good as mine, but I invite you to look back at my posting history and make your own judgements as to why this might be.

...as vague as it might have been.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Jul 2, 2013 20:08:52 GMT -5 @notoriousnd22 said:

I personally couldn't believe you stopped getting any Mafia heat whatsoever, AH. Nobody seemed to notice that once Brad got killed off, you started to try and control discussions more, and you bumped the thread more, and got more involved. Nobody calling you on that surprised the heck out of me.

And one other thing that I was wondering about, and this one goes to Jono.

On the other hand, what are the odds that every single role that had to be replaced was a town role?

I think that was about the likelihood of Connor being Mafia, but AH was the one who was a replacement player. Connor was the same character the entire game. I'm probably just reading it wrong, but could you clarify that?


And while I'm here, I'd like to point out how Connor's Bulletproof Townie role and B Natural's Hated Townie role never came into play at all. Also, the Mafia somehow landing perfectly with their Janitoring, cleaning both the Roleblocker and the Doctor. No one outside of the Mafia knew that those two were dead. I'd have been tempted to claim myself as the Roleblocker once the Cop were killed. In fact, at one point I was wondering why Artificial Human #2 wasn't doing that. It was a smart move on his part though, because I just know that if he had claimed to be the Roleblocker or Doctor, someone would have asked for a list of all his actions thus far, and that's likely where a slip up would have happened.

The thing about the controlling of conversations and getting more involved is that it's not too much different from how I played. I adapted a few things to fit with my new role but other than that, I didn't really differ that much from my usual style. My hope was that the more experienced players who've played other games with me would remember that so I could fly under the radar while trying to steer conversations to suit my needs. I was also hoping that the town making a mistake on me the first time around on me would also let me get away because they would be more hesitant to go after me for fear of making the same mistake twice. Though, as Jono pointed out during the last day phase, I didn't push my killing off too hard on the town because that would look suspicious.

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That's a good strategy and it definitely worked out for you.


If you look at the first few pages of the Thread 2, when there were 3 Mafia left, you were way more hidden and innocuous. Then Wolf Hurricane got lynched and Brad got some heat on him, and you suddenly pushed mad hard to get Brad voted off. That would have at least raised an eyebrow for me, even though he turned up Mafia. After that you pretty much became the leader of the group, taking charge.

It felt like you went from zero to sixty super quick.


I seriously thought the Town had the game sewn up when they had a NINE TO ONE advantage, but AH hung in there like a champ and took 'em out one by one (and two by one, once). He gets many kudos on that.