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Post by celticjobber on Jul 19, 2013 18:21:35 GMT -5
From Wrestling Observer/F4WOnline:
"Apparently the theme idea, billing a television show as a free PPV and doing a several week build to the main event works, since Impact did its best number in months, with a 1.2 rating and 1.49 million viewers.
Dwayne Johnson's show on TNT, "The Hero," did only 838,000 viewers.
There is another reason the Impact rating was up, and that was it got a big lead-in from two episodes of COPS that each did 1.4 million viewers. "
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Jul 19, 2013 18:24:01 GMT -5
Well well well...let's hope they can maintain this with the continuation of the X Division title tournament and whatever comes off of Sabin's title victory. It might not be groundbreaking but to get back up to scratch is good news, not that ratings really show how many eyes are on the product these days anyway.
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Post by Glitch on Jul 19, 2013 18:26:20 GMT -5
Sabin beat The Rock!
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Post by kamero00 on Jul 19, 2013 18:31:12 GMT -5
No Hogan/No Brooke = More viewers
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 18:38:56 GMT -5
No Hogan/No Brooke = More viewers They opened the show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 18:41:24 GMT -5
Nothing else worth watching = ratings
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 19:20:36 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. 1.2? So one night of floppy indie dudes did in one night what Hogan couldn't in nearly three years: got TNA past 1.1
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jul 19, 2013 19:38:22 GMT -5
LIES!
People that have an interest in TNA don't want to see the X-Division, or younger and more athletic wrestling! How can this be?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2013 20:21:17 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. 1.2? So one night of floppy indie dudes did in one night what Hogan couldn't in nearly three years: got TNA past 1.1 You were probably being sarcastic, but the Brooke/Bully wedding show did 1.6 million viewers, and that was earlier this year. So not quite. The ratings post-Lockdown have been terrible, so the heavily hyped show and title change worked. For one night at least. We'll see if it lasts. When I first heard of the drop in PPV's, I was hoping TNA would do Clash of the Champions type of shows like this where it is heavily hyped as a free PPV. It would be a good way to increase ratings every month or so, if done right. The sooner TNA ends the Aces and Eights angle, the better. The moment Bully won the title and Aces and Eights suddenly started appearing in every segment, the viewers couldn't run away fast enough. |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jul 20, 2013 0:36:40 GMT -5
From Wrestling Observer/F4WOnline: "Apparently the theme idea, billing a television show as a free PPV and doing a several week build to the main event works, since Impact did its best number in months, with a 1.2 rating and 1.49 million viewers. Dwayne Johnson's show on TNT, "The Hero," did only 838,000 viewers. There is another reason the Impact rating was up, and that was it got a big lead-in from two episodes of COPS that each did 1.4 million viewers. " The scariest part of that article for me is the idea that an old washed up syndicated show like COPS did 1.4 million viewers while the show Spike has invested A LOT more into did 1.49 million. Those are worse numbers than Law and Order did vs. Nitro and the suits at AOL thought that would be a lot better. If anybody starts crunching the numbers hard... |
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Post by SOR on Jul 20, 2013 1:06:09 GMT -5
No Hogan/No Brooke = More viewers If you don't count the opening of the show or the segment where Hogan gave Sabin a pep talk you'd be 100% correct. Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. 1.2? So one night of floppy indie dudes did in one night what Hogan couldn't in nearly three years: got TNA past 1.1 1.2 is TNA's regular number when sport isn't on. Also the fact this big show was hyped for a little over a month that MAY have something to do with the ratings gain. Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. 1.2? So one night of floppy indie dudes did in one night what Hogan couldn't in nearly three years: got TNA past 1.1 You were probably being sarcastic, but the Brooke/Bully wedding show did 1.6 million viewers, and that was earlier this year. So not quite. Impossible! TNA has NEVER gotten over a 1.2 with Hogan around! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 1:21:44 GMT -5
No Hogan/No Brooke = More viewers If you don't count the opening of the show or the segment where Hogan gave Sabin a pep talk you'd be 100% correct. Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. 1.2? So one night of floppy indie dudes did in one night what Hogan couldn't in nearly three years: got TNA past 1.1 1.2 is TNA's regular number when sport isn't on. Also the fact this big show was hyped for a little over a month that MAY have something to do with the ratings gain. Actually - for the past few years they've been around .99-1.1. Even in 2012 they hit 1.2 only a handful of times. So unless "sport" isn't on only five times a year - gonna have to call BS on that. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 20, 2013 3:23:29 GMT -5
If you don't count the opening of the show or the segment where Hogan gave Sabin a pep talk you'd be 100% correct. 1.2 is TNA's regular number when sport isn't on. Also the fact this big show was hyped for a little over a month that MAY have something to do with the ratings gain. Actually - for the past few years they've been around .99-1.1. Even in 2012 they hit 1.2 only a handful of times. So unless "sport" isn't on only five times a year - gonna have to call BS on that. As far as "Sport" goes...in the U.S., Impact really only has about 10 shows throughout the year that aren't head-to-head with NBA, NFL, or College Football. Late-June (end of NBA Finals/NBA Draft) through mid-August (beginning of NFL Preseason) is the only window without competition from major sports on Thursday nights. And MLB fills that Summer void in all the regional markets (though not as highly rated). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 10:15:02 GMT -5
If you don't count the opening of the show or the segment where Hogan gave Sabin a pep talk you'd be 100% correct. 1.2 is TNA's regular number when sport isn't on. Also the fact this big show was hyped for a little over a month that MAY have something to do with the ratings gain. Actually - for the past few years they've been around .99-1.1. Even in 2012 they hit 1.2 only a handful of times. So unless "sport" isn't on only five times a year - gonna have to call BS on that. You are using ratings points instead of total viewers. I'm guessing because it fits your agenda, because it is certainly not more logical. TNA could draw more viewers and have a lower rating in certain cases. I took a random sample from 2011 (i.e. Immortal running wild and Russo writing), and here are the viewer totals: 02/10/11: 1,700,000 02/03/11: 1,950,000 01/27/11: 1,930,000 01/20/11: 1,648,000 That is four random weeks in 2011 that drew way more viewers than Destination-X, a show which you claimed drew more than any show in three years. I'm sure they drew more viewers even as recently as Jeff Hardy's title reign, but I'm not going to look all that up. I realize your whole agenda is to make Hogan look bad for not being able to start another boom period as he creeps into his 60's, but TNA has a core fanbase. They've lost a few people with timeslot changes, Aces and Eights, etc, but the core is around the same (~1.5M). As far as sports as competition, the NFL has Thursday night games, and the NBA on TNT has been running Thursday nights for a long time (don't follow college football, but I'm sure that factors in as well). TNA has competition from sports very often throughout the year. Not now though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 11:13:57 GMT -5
Actually - for the past few years they've been around .99-1.1. Even in 2012 they hit 1.2 only a handful of times. So unless "sport" isn't on only five times a year - gonna have to call BS on that. You are using ratings points instead of total viewers. I'm guessing because it fits your agenda, because it is certainly not more logical. TNA could draw more viewers and have a lower rating in certain cases. Or, you know, because this entire thread was about ratings and not total viewers, but feel free to continue to believe that everyone's conspiring against TNA. Wow... Also, my original post was just a joke on how some people believe audiences don't care about "indie dudes." |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 11:15:23 GMT -5
Actually - for the past few years they've been around .99-1.1. Even in 2012 they hit 1.2 only a handful of times. So unless "sport" isn't on only five times a year - gonna have to call BS on that. As far as "Sport" goes...in the U.S., Impact really only has about 10 shows throughout the year that aren't head-to-head with NBA, NFL, or College Football. Late-June (end of NBA Finals/NBA Draft) through mid-August (beginning of NFL Preseason) is the only window without competition from major sports on Thursday nights. And MLB fills that Summer void in all the regional markets (though not as highly rated). 10/52 eh? Sounds like whatever rating they pull against Sports is their usual rating then and the non-sports rating is the exception. |
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 20, 2013 11:44:02 GMT -5
Chris Sabin is more over than The Rock. Watch out WWE the Sabin era has begun.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 20, 2013 13:29:57 GMT -5
I'd imagine Roode/Aries kept the audience around as well. But the thing that has always amused me about TNA is that they can sign whoever they want to whatever contract, and yet those guys still do the same numbers (or even worse) than throwing some random X division 3 way with Rubix and whoever out there.
The Aces and Eights angle has sucked. The guys in it largely suck and dare I say it very few people in the year 2013 have any serious desire to see Bubba Ray Dudley main event regardless of his effectiveness in a top heel role. That's oddly a problem I have with TNA champs. It seems like they constantly follow a formula of putting the title on a heel (or having a face turn heel while champ) and then that guy proceeds to never, ever wrestle. That might be fine if you're building to major PPVs, which TNA isn't. So why do I constantly have to endure some repetitive Roode or Bully promo on Impact when they never seem to wrestle on TV?
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Post by SOR on Jul 20, 2013 13:49:55 GMT -5
I'd imagine Roode/Aries kept the audience around as well. But the thing that has always amused me about TNA is that they can sign whoever they want to whatever contract, and yet those guys still do the same numbers (or even worse) than throwing some random X division 3 way with Rubix and whoever out there. The Aces and Eights angle has sucked. The guys in it largely suck and dare I say it very few people in the year 2013 have any serious desire to see Bubba Ray Dudley main event regardless of his effectiveness in a top heel role. That's oddly a problem I have with TNA champs. It seems like they constantly follow a formula of putting the title on a heel (or having a face turn heel while champ) and then that guy proceeds to never, ever wrestle. That might be fine if you're building to major PPVs, which TNA isn't. So why do I constantly have to endure some repetitive Roode or Bully promo on Impact when they never seem to wrestle on TV? With Bully I remember a pretty sweet match with Hardy but that's really it. I'm sure he racked up a couple more on free TV but I think he should be defending 2 times a month on TV at least. Sabin I expect to wrestle most weeks as champion until he loses it. |
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Post by sunnytaker on Jul 20, 2013 13:57:10 GMT -5
so Impact went one on one with the Great One...and won.
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