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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 3, 2014 7:45:18 GMT -5
Charles "Godfather" Wright once mentioned in an interview that he was talking with WCW, but they decided to sign Virgil/Vincent instead. If they had brought Wright in, I could totally have seen him forming a badass tag team with Scott Norton; a pair of huge, tattooed, freaking scary powerhouses.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 3, 2014 8:01:29 GMT -5
Road Dogg in 2001 would of been a great pick up for WCW. By 2001, there was no one on Earth who would have been a great pick for WCW.
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Aug 3, 2014 8:18:21 GMT -5
Charles "Godfather" Wright once mentioned in an interview that he was talking with WCW, but they decided to sign Virgil/Vincent instead. That's like being offered a night in a decent hotel and turning it down to sleep on the streets.
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 3, 2014 8:33:16 GMT -5
Charles "Godfather" Wright once mentioned in an interview that he was talking with WCW, but they decided to sign Virgil/Vincent instead. That's like being offered a night in a decent hotel and turning it down to sleep on the streets. Bare in mind he was probably still doing the Kama character at the time. But still, he would have been a better add on for the roster than Vincent.
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Post by Clawley Race on Aug 3, 2014 9:48:25 GMT -5
If HBK would have jumped, Vince still would have won, and sad to say, I don't think HBK would be around today. Let's say he jumps, Vince keeps Triple H, and HBK, Hall, and Nash get to continue to do what they do. There's really nobody there to babysit Shawn, like Triple H was. Like Triple H or not, but he was the guy that pretty much babysit Shawn. Shawn's demons and ego combined with clashing with Hogan probably would have made Shawn's addictions even worse. Also with a Hogan HBK war behind the scenes, there probably would have been quite a few guys looking to jump to Vince, cheaply. Bret may have stuck around, and it would have been Bret cementing Austin as the guy.[/quote] Which is what Bret had wanted. How does Vince magically have the ability to pay Bret after HBK shows up on Nitro? I think it is pretty unlikely that he winds up making a lot more money w/o HBK.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Aug 3, 2014 9:52:09 GMT -5
Shawn Micheals would have been interesting in WCW.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 3, 2014 17:29:38 GMT -5
How does Vince magically have the ability to pay Bret after HBK shows up on Nitro? I think it is pretty unlikely that he winds up making a lot more money w/o HBK. He wouldn't be paying HBK's wages, he was a main eventer so they were probably pretty good, so he has more money available to honour Bret's contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 17:47:29 GMT -5
As close as it gets:
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 4, 2014 0:23:02 GMT -5
He wouldn't be paying HBK's wages, he was a main eventer so they were probably pretty good, so he has more money available to honour Bret's contract. Yep, also Vince could go to Bret and lay out a storyline, and Bret says he'll take a paycut. Vader wins the title, goes on a monster run, Austin vs Bret is still going on, Vince sees the business Austin vs Bret is doing, and at Wrestlemania 13 it's still Austin vs Bret in a Submission Match, and for the WWF Title it's Taker vs Vader. Taker wins the title, Austin vs The Hart Foundation continues as is, Bret wins the title at SummerSlam, and at Survivor Series he beats a face Vader of Foley (the other one would be facing Kane), Austin wins the Rumble, and the stage is set for Austin vs Bret at Wrestlemania 14 with Tyson as the enforcer. By this time Vince is becoming a character even without the screwjob, and wants Bret to beat Austin, because Bret is the squeaky clean good guy, so he stacks the deck against Austin, with Tyson on Vince's side. Mania ends with Austin winning, Tyson stopping the Hart Foundation from interfering, and Vince being pissed.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 4, 2014 0:25:50 GMT -5
Ken Shamrock
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Aug 4, 2014 0:41:27 GMT -5
He wouldn't be paying HBK's wages, he was a main eventer so they were probably pretty good, so he has more money available to honour Bret's contract. Yep, also Vince could go to Bret and lay out a storyline, and Bret says he'll take a paycut. Vader wins the title, goes on a monster run, Austin vs Bret is still going on, Vince sees the business Austin vs Bret is doing, and at Wrestlemania 13 it's still Austin vs Bret in a Submission Match, and for the WWF Title it's Taker vs Vader. Taker wins the title, Austin vs The Hart Foundation continues as is, Bret wins the title at SummerSlam, and at Survivor Series he beats a face Vader of Foley (the other one would be facing Kane), Austin wins the Rumble, and the stage is set for Austin vs Bret at Wrestlemania 14 with Tyson as the enforcer. By this time Vince is becoming a character even without the screwjob, and wants Bret to beat Austin, because Bret is the squeaky clean good guy, so he stacks the deck against Austin, with Tyson on Vince's side. Mania ends with Austin winning, Tyson stopping the Hart Foundation from interfering, and Vince being pissed. I could see Bret taking time off after Wrestlemania as well, guys like Rocky, Foley & Kane rise to to the top of the card as it happened, with Bret coming back losing a WM rematch at Summerslam to put a final capper on his and Austin's feud
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 4, 2014 0:52:52 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did I disagree with replacing Hogan as the third man however if they had snatched HBK away in '97 when he "lost his smile" then I think WWF would probably have lost the war. Eh. The problem with the war is that Vince could always come back, while WCW was never master of its own destiny, which is how it died. He owned WWE and while he would have had to make cuts, he would have continued to stay in the business regardless of how it turned out. Losing Shawn would have sucked, but WCW would have probably had someone fall to the wayside due to him displacing them, while Hogan was already in WCW. WWF could have got Sting or the like out of it, and there's no telling what the impact of that could have been.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 4, 2014 0:54:45 GMT -5
Charles "Godfather" Wright once mentioned in an interview that he was talking with WCW, but they decided to sign Virgil/Vincent instead. That's like being offered a night in a decent hotel and turning it down to sleep on the streets. To be fair, Virgil got the job by offering to be paid much less, I think as much as 25% less. Virgil was never really very good, but it was a cheap get.
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 4, 2014 7:31:28 GMT -5
Technically not "jumping ship," but I also remember an interview where Konnan described how WCW had been trying to woo Yokozuna and had plans for him to come in as a Samoan gagsta character and for the two of them to be a team, but Yoko broke it off when Scott Hall tried to urge him to finalize things by the phone. Apparently Yoko felt insulted that Hall tried to push him on it and broke off negotiations.
And while it might not have been considered huge, Erich Bischoff tried for years to get Howard Finkel to jump to WCW, and the big reason they brought Michael Buffer in to do the ring announcing was because Finkel said no.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 4, 2014 9:06:03 GMT -5
I can't really see how Shawn being the third man in the nWo destroys the WWF. If anything, I see Hulk killing off the nWo at Starrcade, or SuperBrawl at the latest, and who knows where WCW goes without the nWo/Sting angle?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 4, 2014 9:49:50 GMT -5
I can't really see how Shawn being the third man in the nWo destroys the WWF. If anything, I see Hulk killing off the nWo at Starrcade, or SuperBrawl at the latest, and who knows where WCW goes without the nWo/Sting angle? Yeah, I don't see the NWO lasting or getting over nearly as much as it did without Hogan as the third man.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Aug 4, 2014 19:28:31 GMT -5
Yep, also Vince could go to Bret and lay out a storyline, and Bret says he'll take a paycut. Vader wins the title, goes on a monster run, Austin vs Bret is still going on, Vince sees the business Austin vs Bret is doing, and at Wrestlemania 13 it's still Austin vs Bret in a Submission Match, and for the WWF Title it's Taker vs Vader. Taker wins the title, Austin vs The Hart Foundation continues as is, Bret wins the title at SummerSlam, and at Survivor Series he beats a face Vader of Foley (the other one would be facing Kane), Austin wins the Rumble, and the stage is set for Austin vs Bret at Wrestlemania 14 with Tyson as the enforcer. By this time Vince is becoming a character even without the screwjob, and wants Bret to beat Austin, because Bret is the squeaky clean good guy, so he stacks the deck against Austin, with Tyson on Vince's side. Mania ends with Austin winning, Tyson stopping the Hart Foundation from interfering, and Vince being pissed. I could see Bret taking time off after Wrestlemania as well, guys like Rocky, Foley & Kane rise to to the top of the card as it happened, with Bret coming back losing a WM rematch at Summerslam to put a final capper on his and Austin's feud And, even though I often see people saying Bret wouldn't have fit in during the Attitude era, but I think if you tweaked his anti-American heel gimmick into just being more bitter towards everyone and everything in general, while still holding onto the fact that he's a hero and a role model, despite having to cheat to win all his matches and hiding behind Vince. I dunno, I think he would have been fine.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 5, 2014 1:30:28 GMT -5
I could see Bret taking time off after Wrestlemania as well, guys like Rocky, Foley & Kane rise to to the top of the card as it happened, with Bret coming back losing a WM rematch at Summerslam to put a final capper on his and Austin's feud And, even though I often see people saying Bret wouldn't have fit in during the Attitude era, but I think if you tweaked his anti-American heel gimmick into just being more bitter towards everyone and everything in general, while still holding onto the fact that he's a hero and a role model, despite having to cheat to win all his matches and hiding behind Vince. I dunno, I think he would have been fine. Exactly, and he's the hero, the role model, who would make a better corporate champion? Then he gets discarded for the new, younger one in The Rock, and he's back to being face.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 5, 2014 6:38:46 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did I'm not sure... I think Hogan turning for the first time was that big. it had to be Hogan. if it were anyone else Hogan would've kept going as the stale-as-hell superhero and interest in the angle would've dwindled when you had Hogan and Nash/HBK refusing to put the other guy over. hell, if Michaels went to WCW he might not be alive right now because he'd be working for Eric Bischoff who, as we've seen with Scott Hall and Jeff Hardy, is just a big enabler.
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Post by percymania on Aug 6, 2014 21:59:35 GMT -5
Owen Hart
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