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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 13:57:22 GMT -5
Everyone always talks about how guys should jumped to the WWF before WCW folded.
How about you reverse the scenario? Who did you desperately want to jump from the WWF at any given time and go to WCW? These are guys that could completely been repackaged or just used better than their time in the WWF?
Here are a few of mine.
Hakushi. Instead of going back to Japan he joins WCW in 1996-97, and tears it up with Jericho, Benoit, Guererro, Juventud, etc..... Give him a manager or something, or align him with The Great Muta has a devastating tag team.
Test. I think Test would've been a serviceable big man in WCW around 2000. He probably would've had a run with the US title, and feud with Nash, Jarrett, etc...
D'lo Brown. He could've been a part of the New Blood, or at least become an upper mid-carder. He just needed to leave the WWF after the whole Droz thing.
Bam Bam Bigelow. In 1996, he jumps right out of the gate with a feud with Hogan. He could've worked with Savage, Sting, Luger and so on. He would replace Vader on the mobile big man scene.
Eric Angle. He never got his fair shake, and I wonder, if WCW would've pushed him, because his last name is "Angle".
Demolition. Sure, they would have to alter the gimmick, but how much of it did Vince own? The LOD could go to any company and keep their gimmick, I guess the same would apply for the Demos? A Demolition vs. Steiners feud would be something.
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 3, 2013 14:22:43 GMT -5
Tatanka would have gotten himself a nice fat contract if he wanted to, apparently he wanted a break from wrestling though after leaving the WWF in 1996. Hopefully he doesn't have any regrets.
D'Lo Brown definitely, he has said he was close in 99/00 to jumping. He could have gotten that Jeff Jarrett type of boost where even if you are main eventing PPV's nobody is watching, it still goes on your resume as World Champion/Main Eventer.
Billy Gunn probably could have fit into that mold as well after it was clear his KOTR win wasn't getting him a bigger push but I guess he was loyal through and through to the WWF.
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Post by Young Game on Aug 3, 2013 14:26:12 GMT -5
WCW's Cruiserweight division was really one of it's strongest points, and it's a shame TAKA was never part of it.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 3, 2013 14:47:32 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did
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Post by amaron on Aug 3, 2013 19:59:23 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did I'm not sure... I think Hogan turning for the first time was that big.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 1:29:57 GMT -5
Owen Hart, he would still be alive if Vince had let him go.
I also think if he and Bret had been in teh nWo together they could have helped save 1998 from going into the toilet.
Owen could have also had some great matches with Dean Malenko, Eddy Guerrero, Raven and Saturn and loads of other mid carders.
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Post by SOR on Aug 4, 2013 2:05:30 GMT -5
Road Dogg in 2001 would of been a great pick up for WCW.
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Post by nickcave on Aug 4, 2013 2:37:02 GMT -5
Road Dogg in 2001 would of been a great pick up for WCW. Didn't he have a bad drug problem at the time though which is why WWE fired him in the first place?
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Post by thegame415 on Aug 4, 2013 2:48:14 GMT -5
Had he not been injured, how big of an impact would RVD made if he showed up on the April 10th 2000 Nitro?
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Post by Smiley Smile on Aug 4, 2013 4:15:03 GMT -5
Road Dogg in 2001 would of been a great pick up for WCW. Didn't he have a bad drug problem at the time though which is why WWE fired him in the first place? That never really stopped a promoter before, to be fair.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 4, 2013 10:58:52 GMT -5
nobody IMO. one of WCW's big problems was that their roster was too big and over-full of guys who they had nothing for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 13:11:57 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did That would have just pissed Vince off and sent him into Terminator mode, the E would still be here but HBK would be long forgotten.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Aug 4, 2013 14:56:14 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did I disagree with replacing Hogan as the third man however if they had snatched HBK away in '97 when he "lost his smile" then I think WWF would probably have lost the war.
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Post by WesternSloth on Aug 2, 2014 15:24:44 GMT -5
People speculate on the Shawn / WCW jump with differing conclusions. Obviously it would have been big news, but I can honestly see Shawn just geting lost in the shuffle with so many players on the roster. Can you see the likes of Scott Norton or Scott Steiner taking his shit backstage? It's not like he would have had the bosses ear like he had in WWF either. I see Shawn doing a lot more drugs and ending up looking like how Chris Candido looked in the early 2000's. It would have been an ugly situation.
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Post by mysterious on Aug 2, 2014 17:56:25 GMT -5
How about if Skip and Sunny jumped in 1997. Candido quit because of all the crap with HBK and being lost in the shuffle of tag teams. He could have had some great matches with Benoit, Malenko, Saturn or Jericho. Sunny was losing her spot as the #1 chick in WWF to Sable and the Goldust Marlena tandem was starting to take off until Pilmans death. Other than Liz and Kimberly at that time WCW didn't really have a known valet as hot as Sunny. I couldn't Skip and Sunny together in WCW but I'm sure they would have pushed Sunny just to take on Sable's WWF push at the time. Maybe have her as DDP's new valet to feud with Kimberly. I'm sure WCW would have done more with them than ECW did.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 2, 2014 20:19:30 GMT -5
HBK as the third man and dumping the WWF Title in the trash. I don't think WWE would be here today if he did Interesting thought. Hogan was a moment would always be bigger but Vince's champ showing up with the belt on Turner tv could have been the killer moment. Remember after the Bret vs Shawn shoot fight where Shawn walked out and since Raw and Nitro were being filmed in the same general region there was some thought that Shawn may have gone to the Turner taping?
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Aug 2, 2014 22:19:26 GMT -5
If Shawn had gone to WCW Vince would still have won, he would have been rid of his biggest asshole
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Post by Clawley Race on Aug 3, 2014 3:14:16 GMT -5
Shawn putting over Austin at WM14 was HUGE. Had he not been the guy doing the job, who cements Austin as THE guy? Undertaker? Then the Taker/Kane feud doesn't happen, and Kane isn't what he was for the last 15 years. There weren't a lot of credible options during the time. Vince still wouldn't be able to afford Hart, so I don't think it could have been him.
Owen Hart?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 3, 2014 3:25:47 GMT -5
If HBK would have jumped, Vince still would have won, and sad to say, I don't think HBK would be around today. Let's say he jumps, Vince keeps Triple H, and HBK, Hall, and Nash get to continue to do what they do. There's really nobody there to babysit Shawn, like Triple H was. Like Triple H or not, but he was the guy that pretty much babysit Shawn. Shawn's demons and ego combined with clashing with Hogan probably would have made Shawn's addictions even worse. Also with a Hogan HBK war behind the scenes, there probably would have been quite a few guys looking to jump to Vince, cheaply. Shawn putting over Austin at WM14 was HUGE. Had he not been the guy doing the job, who cements Austin as THE guy? Undertaker? Then the Taker/Kane feud doesn't happen, and Kane isn't what he was for the last 15 years. There weren't a lot of credible options during the time. Vince still wouldn't be able to afford Hart, so I don't think it could have been him. Owen Hart? Bret may have stuck around, and it would have been Bret cementing Austin as the guy.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Aug 3, 2014 5:23:38 GMT -5
If HBK would have jumped, Vince still would have won, and sad to say, I don't think HBK would be around today. Let's say he jumps, Vince keeps Triple H, and HBK, Hall, and Nash get to continue to do what they do. There's really nobody there to babysit Shawn, like Triple H was. Like Triple H or not, but he was the guy that pretty much babysit Shawn. Shawn's demons and ego combined with clashing with Hogan probably would have made Shawn's addictions even worse. Also with a Hogan HBK war behind the scenes, there probably would have been quite a few guys looking to jump to Vince, cheaply. Shawn putting over Austin at WM14 was HUGE. Had he not been the guy doing the job, who cements Austin as THE guy? Undertaker? Then the Taker/Kane feud doesn't happen, and Kane isn't what he was for the last 15 years. There weren't a lot of credible options during the time. Vince still wouldn't be able to afford Hart, so I don't think it could have been him. Owen Hart? Bret may have stuck around, and it would have been Bret cementing Austin as the guy.[/quote] Which is what Bret had wanted.
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