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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 31, 2013 18:03:03 GMT -5
Honestly people are using the divas as avatars for what they believe they are without knowing them
On another forum this guy was obsessed that Ronda Rousey was a virgin and pure without sex. When you know she is a girl and talked about having sex and other things.
Or the scary mickie james fanatics
They see brunettes not as pretty as other divas as more accessable to them so they obsess to the point of scariness
These divas have their own reasons to do what they do to get where they get.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 18:05:55 GMT -5
Can I just say how annoyed I get when we talk about (as facts) what the Divas/Knockouts personal lives are like, and who is/isn't slutty? I hate it when we do it, and I hate it when AJ Lee does it on a promo. Although it is a bit insulting that people feel it's cool to say that stuff about The Bellas, Rosa, etc. but when AJ's name comes up, it's over the line. It's always over the line, people. I don't care who is banging who, and we shouldn't base our opinions off of it either. Have 1,000,000 important post points, sire. "How dare that person sleep with people! What a whore! The more dicks in her the more she's worthless!" mentality really should be put to sleep in society. It's absurd and disgusting for people to dare try to pry into private lives/make accusations/feel it allows them to use it in ammo to devalue said person. Say that you don't think ____ is a good wrestler/promo/whatever, because that's an opinion, don't say "it's also worse as they f***ed someone" as...well...who cares? Really? You? Then get your head out of others private lives as if it means you can a) prove it, b) attach it to irrelevant OPINIONS as a means of trying to convince others yours is more fact than opinion. /serious post mode over
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 31, 2013 20:16:53 GMT -5
Can I just say how annoyed I get when we talk about (as facts) what the Divas/Knockouts personal lives are like, and who is/isn't slutty? I hate it when we do it, and I hate it when AJ Lee does it on a promo. Although it is a bit insulting that people feel it's cool to say that stuff about The Bellas, Rosa, etc. but when AJ's name comes up, it's over the line. It's always over the line, people. I don't care who is banging who, and we shouldn't base our opinions off of it either. Have 1,000,000 important post points, sire. "How dare that person sleep with people! What a whore! The more dicks in her the more she's worthless!" mentality really should be put to sleep in society. It's absurd and disgusting for people to dare try to pry into private lives/make accusations/feel it allows them to use it in ammo to devalue said person. Say that you don't think ____ is a good wrestler/promo/whatever, because that's an opinion, don't say "it's also worse as they f***ed someone" as...well...who cares? Really? You? Then get your head out of others private lives as if it means you can a) prove it, b) attach it to irrelevant OPINIONS as a means of trying to convince others yours is more fact than opinion. /serious post mode over Not to mention, as it should always be added, the manwhores of wrestling are never maligned for their sexual trysts. Batista's record has become more of a meme if anything, and Punk's practically glorified for who he's been with. Compare Melina, who's probably had significantly less partners than either of them and let anyone tell it, she's the Hoo-er of Babylon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 20:46:28 GMT -5
Have 1,000,000 important post points, sire. "How dare that person sleep with people! What a whore! The more dicks in her the more she's worthless!" mentality really should be put to sleep in society. It's absurd and disgusting for people to dare try to pry into private lives/make accusations/feel it allows them to use it in ammo to devalue said person. Say that you don't think ____ is a good wrestler/promo/whatever, because that's an opinion, don't say "it's also worse as they f***ed someone" as...well...who cares? Really? You? Then get your head out of others private lives as if it means you can a) prove it, b) attach it to irrelevant OPINIONS as a means of trying to convince others yours is more fact than opinion. /serious post mode over Not to mention, as it should always be added, the manwhores of wrestling are never maligned for their sexual trysts. Batista's record has become more of a meme if anything, and Punk's practically glorified for who he's been with. Compare Melina, who's probably had significantly less partners than either of them and let anyone tell it, she's the Hoo-er of Babylon. But those with penises are seen as people and as such shouldn't be judged by who they've slept with! Physiological females are defined solely by their sexual organs! "Those without penises are perceived as items by popular culture and seen as trade-able by the past & traditions of marriage" is always an essay that's on the tip of my tongue- *remembers rules* -but shall remain inside. But yeah, fully agreed.
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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 31, 2013 21:29:29 GMT -5
So yeah total divas is one of the biggest ratings grabbers on e! And it is to evryone's shock.
Season two will probably be just as big
Shahs of sunset is hilaribad except for the gay guy
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 31, 2013 21:57:37 GMT -5
Can I just say how annoyed I get when we talk about (as facts) what the Divas/Knockouts personal lives are like, and who is/isn't slutty? I hate it when we do it, and I hate it when AJ Lee does it on a promo. Although it is a bit insulting that people feel it's cool to say that stuff about The Bellas, Rosa, etc. but when AJ's name comes up, it's over the line. It's always over the line, people. I don't care who is banging who, and we shouldn't base our opinions off of it either. It's different with AJ's promo. She wasn't just calling people slutty. She was putting people on blast for sleeping their way either to keep a job or be boosted higher in said job. The Bellas & Rosa draw extra ire because wrestlers that worked in the company have all but gone into explicit detail about what/who they did for the sake of their job. It's not just wrestling. If somebody even suspects that a person got shown favoritism due to sexual encounters, it's not gonna go over well.
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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 31, 2013 22:08:45 GMT -5
Why would bryan reuniting with aj be great when we know he is woth brie and they are a cute couple
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 31, 2013 22:12:19 GMT -5
I'm just glad AJ got a chance to shine out there. That's going to go down as one of her big moments.
The longer this thread goes on, the more I'm worried about it erupting into a flame war, and its getting a little bit close to that already... so that's all I got for now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 22:19:40 GMT -5
Have 1,000,000 important post points, sire. "How dare that person sleep with people! What a whore! The more dicks in her the more she's worthless!" mentality really should be put to sleep in society. It's absurd and disgusting for people to dare try to pry into private lives/make accusations/feel it allows them to use it in ammo to devalue said person. Say that you don't think ____ is a good wrestler/promo/whatever, because that's an opinion, don't say "it's also worse as they f***ed someone" as...well...who cares? Really? You? Then get your head out of others private lives as if it means you can a) prove it, b) attach it to irrelevant OPINIONS as a means of trying to convince others yours is more fact than opinion. /serious post mode over Not to mention, as it should always be added, the manwhores of wrestling are never maligned for their sexual trysts. Batista's record has become more of a meme if anything, and Punk's practically glorified for who he's been with. Compare Melina, who's probably had significantly less partners than either of them and let anyone tell it, she's the Hoo-er of Babylon. Only two, since 2003-ish. Hardly the exciting social life most people assume.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 22:25:36 GMT -5
Can I just say how annoyed I get when we talk about (as facts) what the Divas/Knockouts personal lives are like, and who is/isn't slutty? I hate it when we do it, and I hate it when AJ Lee does it on a promo. Although it is a bit insulting that people feel it's cool to say that stuff about The Bellas, Rosa, etc. but when AJ's name comes up, it's over the line. It's always over the line, people. I don't care who is banging who, and we shouldn't base our opinions off of it either. It's different with AJ's promo. She wasn't just calling people slutty. She was putting people on blast for sleeping their way either to keep a job or be boosted higher in said job. The Bellas & Rosa draw extra ire because wrestlers that worked in the company have all but gone into explicit detail about what/who they did for the sake of their job. It's not just wrestling. If somebody even suspects that a person got shown favoritism due to sexual encounters, it's not gonna go over well. That's the thing though. She was specifically talking about the Bellas and their current relationships with Cena and Bryan. Your comment about what they have done to keep/get their jobs, is talking about the internet's obsession with the idea that they're banging Ace, or doing weird fecal sex acts and the like. That's not our business to talk about, and if AJ were in fact referring to that stuff (which she wasn't, she was talking about the Cena/Bryan relationships), it wouldn't be her business to put that in the streets, so to speak. So my problem with AJ saying that, is that she opened the can of worms for people to go into speculation about that stuff, and think that AJ is a pure woman who would never do anything to get ahead, and the Bellas are terrible slutbags. She didn't mean for it to come off like that (I'm guessing), but it opens the window for the internet to say "Lol the Bellas are sluts. AJ's awesome." When again, it's none of my business or anybody else's who the Bellas have or haven't banged, and what they've done to get ahead in WWE. I'm not in the business of speculation and accusations. Add to the fact that Brie Bella started dating Bryan before they even left WWE, and you've got a whole lot of baselessness going on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 23:37:02 GMT -5
I want to know... We are still talking about a promo, right? A promo that was pre-approved/written by creative before being delivered, right? A promo by a HEEL, right?... Right?!
I mean, it's not like AJ grabbed a mic, beat the sound guy with it, played her music, stormed past Vince, HHH and Chubbs Kidman at the gorilla position, told them "I'm about to f*** you up with some truth." and skipped out onto the stage where she just started putting everyone on blast while Vince and HHH were just biting their nails in fear of what the rebel, the loose cannon, AJ Lee was going to say with a live mic in her hand. Then she's just ripping these girls apart and everyone backstage is FREAKING THE f*** OUT. It's pandemonium 2013 in the locker room, shit is getting real, Ryback has a single tear running down his face... Tear of joy? No one knows. After she's done, she walks to the back, stares through Vince and Co. with a smirk on her face. She grabs Dolph's ass, starts macking him something fierce, we're talking Edge/Lita territory... She's in Edge's position. All the superstars are gathered around, speechless. AJ takes one look at them, specifically Mark Henry, yells "THAT'S WHAT I DO!" before driving off on her motorcycle with one fist in the air.
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I think I lost the point of my post somewhere along the way, but you get the idea.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 31, 2013 23:39:26 GMT -5
It was a promo. I question whether a heel delivered it though. From the sounds of it, the live crowd did too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 23:43:12 GMT -5
I want to know... We are still talking about a promo, right? A promo that was pre-approved/written by creative before being delivered, right? A promo by a HEEL, right?... Right?! I mean, it's not like AJ grabbed a mic, beat the sound guy with it, played her music, stormed past Vince, HHH and Chubbs Kidman at the gorilla position, told them "I'm about to f*** you up with some truth." and skipped out onto the stage where she just started putting everyone on blast while Vince and HHH were just biting their nails in fear of what the rebel, the loose cannon, AJ Lee was going to say with a live mic in her hand. Then she's just ripping these girls apart and everyone backstage is FREAKING THE f*** OUT. It's pandemonium 2013 in the locker room, shit is getting real, Ryback has a single tear running down his face... Tear of joy? No one knows. After she's done, she walks to the back, stares through Vince and Co. with a smirk on her face. She grabs Dolph's ass, starts macking him something fierce, we're talking Edge/Lita territory... She's in Edge's position. All the superstars are gathered around, speechless. AJ takes one look at them, specifically Mark Henry, yells "THAT'S WHAT I DO!" before driving off on her motorcycle with one fist in the air. ... I think I lost the point of my post somewhere along the way, but you get the idea. To sum it up: Basically this thread =
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 23:55:20 GMT -5
I honestly believe that AJ was meant to come across as a heel, much like Punk was a heel when he dropped the pipebomb. But this was a case of a distinct disconnect between what WWE thinks their audience likes and what they actually like. WWE probably looked at the numbers of Total Divas and thought, "Gee, people are really vibing on the show!" and sent AJ out there to belittled the stars of their new hit... But something different happened, AJ was cheered and even more baffling is not only did JBL agree with her(of course he would, he's very much a Ventura like heel commentator) but Lawler agreed too! That's what confuses me. I'm actually intrigued by where they go with this. But overall I feel this was easily one of the greatest promos by a Diva I've ever seen. I know they don't get many opportunities to talk, but still that doesn't diminish the quality of this one.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 0:21:40 GMT -5
Natalya should slap the hell out of aj on raw as her response
Anything else doesn't help
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 1, 2013 0:30:17 GMT -5
With Punk, I can understand why he came across as heelish, because he whined and complained about not being on merchandise (boo hoo) and fans having the nerve to ask for his autograph (how dare they), and usually does come across as being a bit of a tosser, even when he's right. With AJ's pipe bomb however, if WWE meant for her to be the heel I'm not sure who WWE intended people to feel sympathy for. It can't be the Bellas because their WWE personas are bitches. It can't be the Funkettes because for the most part they are just dancers who wiggle their asses. It can't be Nattie because I just don't think enough people care about her, and it can't be the other two (Lisa Marie and Joe Joe? or whatever) because no one knows who they are.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 0:32:49 GMT -5
All the divas hate each other. If you saw kaitlyn/aj all the other divas did was talk crap about each other and egg each other on.
There are no truly face divas beyond Natalya and Kaitlyn
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 1, 2013 0:35:05 GMT -5
The problem with Nattie and Kaitlyn is that in terms of personality, they are relatively bland. Even with good material, they'd get pissed on by AJ with the mic.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 0:39:23 GMT -5
Which is why they need to beat her up. And try to shut her mouth. That is booking 101 bro. Having kaitlyn lose was bad booking.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 1, 2013 0:50:58 GMT -5
If they beat her up, they'd need to turn heel, because I doubt enough people will cheer for them over her.
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