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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 30, 2013 14:45:48 GMT -5
I would think Chappelle would have been more creative than that. I've never heckled myself, but hecklers can actually make for great moments. I know some comics LOVE to deal with them. I would have thought Chappelle at least could have pulled that stunt where he eats his dinner on stage and doesn't say anything, which he has done before. Maybe he wasn't feeling hungry?
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Post by Lord Rahl on Aug 30, 2013 18:51:10 GMT -5
I. ould think Chappelle would have been more creative than that. I've never heckled myself, but hecklers can actually make for great moments. I know some comics LOVE to deal with them. I would have thought Chappelle at least could have pulled that stunt where he eats his dinner on stage and doesn't say anything, which he has done before. Maybe he wasn't feeling hungry? This was my thought. Most comediams I know of would put the hecklers in their place. Hell you can go on youtube and watch countless videos of comedians DESTROYING hecklers
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Post by chazraps on Aug 30, 2013 19:08:27 GMT -5
I think Dave's above wanting to destroy hecklers at this point.
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Post by h on Aug 30, 2013 19:12:54 GMT -5
This reminds me of a concert I went to. People kept yelling for the band to play its hit song. The band messed with the crowd, saying, "Sorry, but we don't play that one anymore." They kept yelling for it before, during, and after every song. About half way through the set, the band played the song. When they finished, people yelled requests for the song. The lead singer looked at them like they were morons and pointed out that they had just played it. The people who were still yelling for it, but who had apparently missed it because they were so focused on yelling the request, continued to request it. The lead singer told them that they weren't there to play the same song multiple times. Needless to say, the clueless morons got angry at the band.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 30, 2013 19:28:06 GMT -5
This reminds me of a concert I went to. People kept yelling for the band to play its hit song. The band messed with the crowd, saying, "Sorry, but we don't play that one anymore." They kept yelling for it before, during, and after every song. About half way through the set, the band played the song. When they finished, people yelled requests for the song. The lead singer looked at them like they were morons and pointed out that they had just played it. The people who were still yelling for it, but who had apparently missed it because they were so focused on yelling the request, continued to request it. The lead singer told them that they weren't there to play the same song multiple times. Needless to say, the clueless morons got angry at the band. Wow, do you recall the band?
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Post by BRV on Aug 30, 2013 19:28:45 GMT -5
Yeah, okay, that's definitely not what happened last night. Did he walk off stage early? Absolutely he did. But was the crowd full of "I'M RICK JAMES BITCH!!!" hecklers? To quote Manti Te'o, far from it. Faaaaaar from it. Here's a story from today's Hartford Courant that quotes a whole handful of people, and gets the actual perspective on what happened last night: www.courant.com/entertainment/hc-dave-chappelle-walks-off-stage-0831-20130830,0,3737525,full.story A few points to be noted:
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Post by h on Aug 30, 2013 21:53:26 GMT -5
Wow, do you recall the band? It was Gob, whose hit song was "Soda"--far from being the biggest song of all time, but it would have been nice if the crowd would have had the decency to recognize the song they were requesting nonstop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 22:13:00 GMT -5
Based on everything I've ever heard about him Chappelle needs thicker skin. And to learn how to actually be funny.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 30, 2013 22:18:16 GMT -5
If it was just a bunch of idiots yelling I'm Rick James Bitch! over and over again... Dave could have handled it better but I can at least see why he'd act like an ass
But if that article there is anywhere near the truth... I gotta side with the crowd that Dave was the one in the wrong.
I'm sure it's probably somewhere in the middle between the two though...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 22:26:43 GMT -5
From what I read of someone who was also at the show, the heckling really wasn't too bad until the expensive beer started flowing. Then you had a group of jackasses who felt they could yell whatever they want at him; apparently figuring that since they had paid to see him, Chappelle had to sit there and ignore it.
He didn't snap at people because he forgot his routine or he was just having a random meltdown. That doesn't even make sense, dude. That Dave Chappelle just randomly decided to piss the crowd off because...something...? Nah.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 30, 2013 22:48:45 GMT -5
I wish Chappelle would have been afforded the luxury to kick people out. More on-stage talent should be offered that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 23:26:09 GMT -5
I wish Chappelle would have been afforded the luxury to kick people out. More on-stage talent should be offered that. I saw a clip of Daniel Tosh kicking out some drunk guys during a set, although it was during a special. Still, it was kinda cool.
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 31, 2013 0:53:15 GMT -5
I wish Chappelle would have been afforded the luxury to kick people out. More on-stage talent should be offered that. Does he not? If the talent wants someone gone, the venue will do it, especially if the main draw says to. It sucks that he was heckled or booed, but walking out is not the way to go about it. Tickets to these things are not cheap and if it means sitting in a chair and reading a book, well so be it. If the article is true, he began to heel it up by talking about their money and what he was going to do with it. I would rather him stand up there and trash all the fans or have a casual chat than him to walk out. Whether it be Dave Chappelle walking out on hecklers or Jack White walking out because he "wasn't feeling it" that is no way to treat the people who paid to see you. Hell, just re-enact the scene with Eddie Murphy from the Nutty Professor!
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Post by chazraps on Aug 31, 2013 3:11:58 GMT -5
I wish Chappelle would have been afforded the luxury to kick people out. More on-stage talent should be offered that. Does he not? If the talent wants someone gone, the venue will do it, especially if the main draw says to. It sucks that he was heckled or booed, but walking out is not the way to go about it. Tickets to these things are not cheap and if it means sitting in a chair and reading a book, well so be it. If the article is true, he began to heel it up by talking about their money and what he was going to do with it. I would rather him stand up there and trash all the fans or have a casual chat than him to walk out. Whether it be Dave Chappelle walking out on hecklers or Jack White walking out because he "wasn't feeling it" that is no way to treat the people who paid to see you. Hell, just re-enact the scene with Eddie Murphy from the Nutty Professor! I don't think it should be the responsibility of the performers to deal with hecklers. It should be the responsibility of the venue. If the audience pays good money to see a performance, and someone is disrupting it, it's the venue's fault for ruining the show by being so lax/weak on security that they let it happen. I'm certain Dave didn't want hecklers or people disrupting his act, so why didn't the venue take action to have the obnoxious parties removed? You really can't blame Dave for this.
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 31, 2013 4:19:44 GMT -5
Does he not? If the talent wants someone gone, the venue will do it, especially if the main draw says to. It sucks that he was heckled or booed, but walking out is not the way to go about it. Tickets to these things are not cheap and if it means sitting in a chair and reading a book, well so be it. If the article is true, he began to heel it up by talking about their money and what he was going to do with it. I would rather him stand up there and trash all the fans or have a casual chat than him to walk out. Whether it be Dave Chappelle walking out on hecklers or Jack White walking out because he "wasn't feeling it" that is no way to treat the people who paid to see you. Hell, just re-enact the scene with Eddie Murphy from the Nutty Professor! I don't think it should be the responsibility of the performers to deal with hecklers. It should be the responsibility of the venue. If the audience pays good money to see a performance, and someone is disrupting it, it's the venue's fault for ruining the show by being so lax/weak on security that they let it happen. I'm certain Dave didn't want hecklers or people disrupting his act, so why didn't the venue take action to have the obnoxious parties removed? You really can't blame Dave for this. Agreed about the venue should have responsible to eject the hecklers but it also wouldn't be hard for Dave to tell his agent or venue rep to have them thrown out. I don't blame him for getting upset at the crowd or even stopping his routine, but walking out is extremely unprofessional and if I were in that audience, I would demand a % of the ticket cost be refunded. If he had stopped his routine and began to read "The Great Gatsby" for an hour, he would at least given them the time they paid for. If they walk out during the show, it's on the fan and not Dave. Sure, it would be a complete waste of time but it's not like anyone had plans for the rest of the night and if they continued to heckle, other fans would (hopefully) begin to express their frustrations with said hecklers and shut them up. I look at it like going to see a movie in theaters. You buy the ticket to see the movie and if it's terrible, you walk out early and trash the movie. By walking out voluntarily, I don't cause the movie to stop for others and I wouldn't get any money back because I made the decision to leave or got thrown out due to my behavior. If the movie is boring people and the theater just turns it off, the people get refunded. Chappelle doesn't owe anybody, anything. But has done stand up long enough to encounter these situations.Handle it or ignore it but don't bail on all of your fans because of some jackasses.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 31, 2013 10:34:19 GMT -5
I don't think it should be the responsibility of the performers to deal with hecklers. It should be the responsibility of the venue. If the audience pays good money to see a performance, and someone is disrupting it, it's the venue's fault for ruining the show by being so lax/weak on security that they let it happen. I'm certain Dave didn't want hecklers or people disrupting his act, so why didn't the venue take action to have the obnoxious parties removed? You really can't blame Dave for this. Agreed about the venue should have responsible to eject the hecklers but it also wouldn't be hard for Dave to tell his agent or venue rep to have them thrown out. I don't blame him for getting upset at the crowd or even stopping his routine, but walking out is extremely unprofessional and if I were in that audience, I would demand a % of the ticket cost be refunded. If he had stopped his routine and began to read "The Great Gatsby" for an hour, he would at least given them the time they paid for. If they walk out during the show, it's on the fan and not Dave. Sure, it would be a complete waste of time but it's not like anyone had plans for the rest of the night and if they continued to heckle, other fans would (hopefully) begin to express their frustrations with said hecklers and shut them up. I look at it like going to see a movie in theaters. You buy the ticket to see the movie and if it's terrible, you walk out early and trash the movie. By walking out voluntarily, I don't cause the movie to stop for others and I wouldn't get any money back because I made the decision to leave or got thrown out due to my behavior. If the movie is boring people and the theater just turns it off, the people get refunded. Chappelle doesn't owe anybody, anything. But has done stand up long enough to encounter these situations.Handle it or ignore it but don't bail on all of your fans because of some jackasses. I don't think it's fair to make the movie comparison because the movie isn't a sentient performer, it's an inanimate object. Truth is, the venue gave Dave unsafe working conditions and saying "it wouldn't be hard for dave to tell..." is dealing in hypotheticals. He shouldn't have to do that, throw off the entire flow of his crafted set just to do what the venue isn't doing. If he didn't give the "Time" that the audience paid for, look into why he didn't. The venue made it impossible for him to give that time and perhaps his leaving would have at least let the venue know that they should eject the parties involved to at least try to coerce him back to the stage.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 31, 2013 13:38:21 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but people give Dave WAY too much credit. The dude in the last decade has becomes increasingly pretentious. I say this as someone who does find him funny, but if I go to a performance, I'm not going to walk on eggshells with the fear I somehow irritate him. A few comments from the audience here and there are so f***ing commonplace...if you don't want to deal with that, you're in the wrong occupation.
This doesn't sound like some kind of unruly audience. You want an unruly audience? Go listen to Bill Hicks talk about unruly audiences, then tell me which you'd prefer performing in front of. Just because he's Dave Chapelle doesn't mean it gives him the right to waste people's time. If he's lost in a routine or reading a book or talking about how he doesn't care and so forth...it just seems like he doesn't care to begin with.
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 31, 2013 16:43:41 GMT -5
Agreed about the venue should have responsible to eject the hecklers but it also wouldn't be hard for Dave to tell his agent or venue rep to have them thrown out. I don't blame him for getting upset at the crowd or even stopping his routine, but walking out is extremely unprofessional and if I were in that audience, I would demand a % of the ticket cost be refunded. If he had stopped his routine and began to read "The Great Gatsby" for an hour, he would at least given them the time they paid for. If they walk out during the show, it's on the fan and not Dave. Sure, it would be a complete waste of time but it's not like anyone had plans for the rest of the night and if they continued to heckle, other fans would (hopefully) begin to express their frustrations with said hecklers and shut them up. I look at it like going to see a movie in theaters. You buy the ticket to see the movie and if it's terrible, you walk out early and trash the movie. By walking out voluntarily, I don't cause the movie to stop for others and I wouldn't get any money back because I made the decision to leave or got thrown out due to my behavior. If the movie is boring people and the theater just turns it off, the people get refunded. Chappelle doesn't owe anybody, anything. But has done stand up long enough to encounter these situations.Handle it or ignore it but don't bail on all of your fans because of some jackasses. I don't think it's fair to make the movie comparison because the movie isn't a sentient performer, it's an inanimate object. Truth is, the venue gave Dave unsafe working conditions and saying "it wouldn't be hard for dave to tell..." is dealing in hypotheticals. He shouldn't have to do that, throw off the entire flow of his crafted set just to do what the venue isn't doing. If he didn't give the "Time" that the audience paid for, look into why he didn't. The venue made it impossible for him to give that time and perhaps his leaving would have at least let the venue know that they should eject the parties involved to at least try to coerce him back to the stage. Fair enough, and I'm not saying you are wrong, but punishing fans for the venue's problems isn't fair to them. He shouldn't have to say anything about but walking out vs attempting to fix the problem is pretty sucky. And we don't know if the venue tried to convince him to stay but if they did, it obviously wasn't enough and they need to be held responsible but not to give Dave a free pass. At the very least, he should have an apology made to his fans even if it is one of those fake PR apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 16:52:41 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but people give Dave WAY too much credit. The dude in the last decade has becomes increasingly pretentious. I say this as someone who does find him funny, but if I go to a performance, I'm not going to walk on eggshells with the fear I somehow irritate him. A few comments from the audience here and there are so f***ing commonplace...if you don't want to deal with that, you're in the wrong occupation. This doesn't sound like some kind of unruly audience. You want an unruly audience? Go listen to Bill Hicks talk about unruly audiences, then tell me which you'd prefer performing in front of. Just because he's Dave Chapelle doesn't mean it gives him the right to waste people's time. If he's lost in a routine or reading a book or talking about how he doesn't care and so forth...it just seems like he doesn't care to begin with. So much wrong with this. "Walking eggshells" =/= sitting down, not heckling and enjoying the show. Sorry that sounds so difficult for you to do. "You want an unruly audience?" NO! That's the whole point! Pointing to a shittier crowd does nothing except give an example of a shittier crowd. The crowd doesn't have a right to waste his time either. Why the hell would he want to deal with this stuff if he values his time?
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Aug 31, 2013 16:59:44 GMT -5
I would think Chappelle would have been more creative than that. I've never heckled myself, but hecklers can actually make for great moments. I know some comics LOVE to deal with them. I would have thought Chappelle at least could have pulled that stunt where he eats his dinner on stage and doesn't say anything, which he has done before. Maybe he wasn't feeling hungry? No comedian enjoys being heckled. They might like ripping apart hecklers, but 99% of comedians would rather do their set than deal with some douche in the audience.
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