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Post by wildojinx on Sept 17, 2013 23:28:04 GMT -5
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Post by rapidfire187 on Sept 18, 2013 0:36:09 GMT -5
I read in one of Lance Storm's blogs that he did an angle accusing someone of using steroids in ECW too. I wonder where else this has happened.
Edit: He as in Lance Storm.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Sept 18, 2013 10:45:39 GMT -5
It would be great for someone to call another wrestler (or Michael Cole) who is so clearly not on the juice, a roid-head.
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Post by molson5 on Sept 18, 2013 14:13:25 GMT -5
I would love to hear from DeBeers how this angle came about. Was it his idea? At the time, pre-Ben Johnson and the 1988 Olympics, steroids were barely a part of the public consciousness. They weren't even classified as a controlled substance yet, and they weren't banned (or at least tested for) in any of the major American team sports. If it didn't come from DeBeers, maybe it came from Verne Gagne, who would have been familiar with the concept of performance-enhancing drugs, being a former amateur wrestler who was still well connected to that sport and the Olympics generally. But why would he want a heel making those kinds of accusations against a babyface whom he must have known was actually on steroids?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 18, 2013 14:23:46 GMT -5
I read in one of Lance Storm's blogs that he did an angle accusing someone of using steroids in ECW too. I wonder where else this has happened. Edit: He as in Lance Storm. I think I remember Lance saying he was the one accused of juicing in the ECW storyline. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2013 14:40:55 GMT -5
It would be great for someone to call another wrestler (or Michael Cole) who is so clearly not on the juice, a roid-head. Someone like, say, Sonjay Dutt? |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 18, 2013 23:15:27 GMT -5
It would be great for someone to call another wrestler (or Michael Cole) who is so clearly not on the juice, a roid-head. Someone like, say, Sonjay Dutt? If I recall correctly, Kevin Nash made a crack about Sonjay Dutt being "on the gas" (steroids) on TNA Impact. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 19, 2013 2:11:18 GMT -5
One of the Memphis mainstays was pretty blatant in accusing the Freedom Fighters (Sting and Warrior) of being juiced on the air. Dutch? Phil Hickerson? One of them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2013 8:25:03 GMT -5
Someone like, say, Sonjay Dutt? If I recall correctly, Kevin Nash made a crack about Sonjay Dutt being "on the gas" (steroids) on TNA Impact. That is the joke, yes. |
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Post by molson5 on Sept 19, 2013 9:15:34 GMT -5
One of the Memphis mainstays was pretty blatant in accusing the Freedom Fighters (Sting and Warrior) of being juiced on the air. Dutch? Phil Hickerson? One of them. Oh ya, I remember that one too, Phil Hickerson, "You don't know how to wrestle, all you know how to do is pull those britches down and put steroids in that booty!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQH6eJWFm0 |
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Post by RedDevil on Sept 19, 2013 9:38:05 GMT -5
It would be great for someone to call another wrestler (or Michael Cole) who is so clearly not on the juice, a roid-head. I'd actually love to see Triple H stood in the ring with Daniel Bryan accusing him of letting everyone down by juicing  |
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Post by Smiley Smile on Sept 20, 2013 8:48:09 GMT -5
I read in one of Lance Storm's blogs that he did an angle accusing someone of using steroids in ECW too. I wonder where else this has happened. Edit: He as in Lance Storm. It was Tommy Dreamer who Storm accused of using steroids. Storm came to the ring with his own urine sample at Cyberslam '99, claiming it was clean and challenging Dreamer to provide his own, only for Dreamer to show up and have Dawn Marie pour the sample all over Storm. Does anyone else find it disappointing that de Beers never once spoke with an Afrikaans accent? He was being billed from South Africa yet still spoke in his regular accent. |
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Post by johnnytightlips on Sept 20, 2013 11:59:27 GMT -5
I think Scott Hall might have admitted to using, before his WWF run, in his RF Video shoot.
Maybe Colonel DeBeers didn't put an effort as he probably thought that many wouldn't know much about the Afrikaans to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 8:06:15 GMT -5
I would love to hear from DeBeers how this angle came about. Was it his idea? At the time, pre-Ben Johnson and the 1988 Olympics, steroids were barely a part of the public consciousness. They weren't even classified as a controlled substance yet, and they weren't banned (or at least tested for) in any of the major American team sports. If it didn't come from DeBeers, maybe it came from Verne Gagne, who would have been familiar with the concept of performance-enhancing drugs, being a former amateur wrestler who was still well connected to that sport and the Olympics generally. But why would he want a heel making those kinds of accusations against a babyface whom he must have known was actually on steroids? Throughout the 1980s, it was assumed (and eventually proven correct) that a lot of national teams in the Eastern Bloc countries (those under Soviet/Communist influence) have been doping to become "swifter, faster, and - definitively - stronger". Records fell like autumn leaves in 1980 (the year the US and a lot of their allies boycotted due to Soviet presence in Afghanistan), and it was mainly due to that practice. |
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Sept 22, 2013 8:10:18 GMT -5
I would love to hear from DeBeers how this angle came about. Was it his idea? At the time, pre-Ben Johnson and the 1988 Olympics, steroids were barely a part of the public consciousness. They weren't even classified as a controlled substance yet, and they weren't banned (or at least tested for) in any of the major American team sports. If it didn't come from DeBeers, maybe it came from Verne Gagne, who would have been familiar with the concept of performance-enhancing drugs, being a former amateur wrestler who was still well connected to that sport and the Olympics generally. But why would he want a heel making those kinds of accusations against a babyface whom he must have known was actually on steroids? Throughout the 1980s, it was assumed (and eventually proven correct) that a lot of national teams in the Eastern Bloc countries (those under Soviet/Communist influence) have been doping to become "swifter, faster, and - definitively - stronger". Records fell like autumn leaves in 1980 (the year the US and a lot of their allies boycotted due to Soviet presence in Afghanistan), and it was mainly due to that practice. And there were rumblings about steroid use in the western sports world pre-Ben Johnson as well. It wasn't limited to the Eastern Bloc. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 22, 2013 8:12:04 GMT -5
I would love to hear from DeBeers how this angle came about. Was it his idea? At the time, pre-Ben Johnson and the 1988 Olympics, steroids were barely a part of the public consciousness. They weren't even classified as a controlled substance yet, and they weren't banned (or at least tested for) in any of the major American team sports. If it didn't come from DeBeers, maybe it came from Verne Gagne, who would have been familiar with the concept of performance-enhancing drugs, being a former amateur wrestler who was still well connected to that sport and the Olympics generally. But why would he want a heel making those kinds of accusations against a babyface whom he must have known was actually on steroids? Throughout the 1980s, it was assumed (and eventually proven correct) that a lot of national teams in the Eastern Bloc countries (those under Soviet/Communist influence) have been doping to become "swifter, faster, and - definitively - stronger". Records fell like autumn leaves in 1980 (the year the US and a lot of their allies boycotted due to Soviet presence in Afghanistan), and it was mainly due to that practice. It was even something of a plot point with Ivan Drago in Rocky IV, rampant steroid abuse with him. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 8:22:59 GMT -5
You're both right. The steroid issue started coming around on college campuses and the football players in the mid-80s. ("1st & Ten" on HBO did an episode about a free-agent [John Matuszak - the same whom would become "Sloth" in The Goonies] who was on the juice and died on the field because of his use.)
But, it gave us something else to hate about the Soviets, so we had that going for us.
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