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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:19:56 GMT -5
I think he was caught in the middle of Triple H gaining more power and philosophies changing, a lot like The Miz.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 22, 2013 14:21:16 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason why Alberto Del Rio is in the position he's in and Wade is stuck jobbing every single week other than Del Rio is Mexican. That is literally the only reason I can think of. Wade Barrett could and should be World Heavyweight Champion. See, when I see Del Rio, I just see a top spot that should belong to about half a dozen other guys before him. Barrett as you mentioned being number one. I thought the idea of a top heel is that you wanted a guy fans would stand up and boo, not someone who made them sit on their hands/break out their cell phones/go to the concession stand/take a piss. Barrett always gets legitimate heat, and at one time could get more than just about anyone else until he got buried in chairs. Del Rio has feuded with the best babyfaces WWE has, and none of them could get him over. When you're a heel and a combination of John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Edge, CM Punk, Christian, and Rob Van Dam can't get you over - you suck. I could make a long list of people that deseve a world title run more than Del Rio. It is just a wasted spot.Anyway,back to topic.The end of Nexus and The Corre jobbing no stop really hurt Barret and he wasn't able to recover,same for Gabriel and a certain degree Slater. I hope it was worth feeding these 3 to Ezekiel
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 22, 2013 14:27:00 GMT -5
See, when I see Del Rio, I just see a top spot that should belong to about half a dozen other guys before him. Barrett as you mentioned being number one. I thought the idea of a top heel is that you wanted a guy fans would stand up and boo, not someone who made them sit on their hands/break out their cell phones/go to the concession stand/take a piss. Barrett always gets legitimate heat, and at one time could get more than just about anyone else until he got buried in chairs. Del Rio has feuded with the best babyfaces WWE has, and none of them could get him over. When you're a heel and a combination of John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Edge, CM Punk, Christian, and Rob Van Dam can't get you over - you suck. I could make a long list of people that deseve a world title run more than Del Rio. It is just a wasted spot.Anyway,back to topic.The end of Nexus and The Corre jobbing no stop really hurt Barret and he wasn't able to recover,same for Gabriel and a certain degree Slater. I hope it was worth feeding these 3 to Ezekiel Hey, look how good Zeke looks now. Nobody's defeated him in ages.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:34:07 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason why Alberto Del Rio is in the position he's in and Wade is stuck jobbing every single week other than Del Rio is Mexican. That is literally the only reason I can think of. Wade Barrett could and should be World Heavyweight Champion. On the other hand I could say that the only reason anyone cares about Wade Barrett is his British accent. If he didn't have that, I think a lot of people would find him generic.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 22, 2013 14:38:16 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason why Alberto Del Rio is in the position he's in and Wade is stuck jobbing every single week other than Del Rio is Mexican. That is literally the only reason I can think of. Wade Barrett could and should be World Heavyweight Champion. On the other hand I could say that the only reason cares about Wade Barrett is his British accent. If he didn't have that, I think a lot of people would find him generic. There have been plenty of wrestlers with British accents. Few were as interesting and charismatic as Wade Barrett was during his push. As a British person, is it nice to have someone representing us? Yeah, of course, it's an extra point in his favour. But to sum it up to just that is rather disingenous. I really don't think the Nexus would have worked as well with Skip Sheffield or Michael Tarver doing the talking for the group, even if they had the voice of flipping Paul McGann.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 22, 2013 14:38:21 GMT -5
I think one thing that gets overlooked with Alberto Del Rio is that his matches have unified crowd reactions. He's not a guy like CM Punk where CM Punk can play with Paul Bearer's ashes and the crowd chants CM Punk. In this he's one of their more effective heels right now. And a great wrestler. I think he gives better promos than Wade Barrett and puts on better matches than Wade Barrett, even if he is kind of boring.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 22, 2013 14:41:20 GMT -5
Wade and Alberto both suffer from the same genericization that seems to happen to most people in the mid-card and upper mid card these days.
Its telling that the year they both had their debut (2010), they were both given particular quirks and more distinct personalities which have been gradually whittled down to whatever buzzwords the announcers throw out (Del Rio's agression, the Barrett Barrage) and so forth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 14:45:17 GMT -5
On the other hand I could say that the only reason cares about Wade Barrett is his British accent. If he didn't have that, I think a lot of people would find him generic. There have been plenty of wrestlers with British accents. Few were as interesting and charismatic as Wade Barrett was during his push. As a British person, is it nice to have someone representing us? Yeah, of course, it's an extra point in his favour. But to sum it up to just that is rather disingenous. I really don't think the Nexus would have worked as well with Skip Sheffield or Michael Tarver doing the talking for the group, even if they had the voice of flipping Paul McGann. Yeah that's true, I don't really think that's all he's got. I was just countering the argument that all Del Rio has is his heritage, he's not a favorite of mine and he does tend to be boring but he's got a good look and is one of their best wrestlers. To me they're about even. Barrett was interesting during his push, but he was also extremely well booked, something I can't say for Del Rio.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 22, 2013 15:13:23 GMT -5
Never really liked Wade. Never felt he was anything special. Nor did I, but I was still expecting him to be a main eventer. He was over enough and in a company-focused angle. But they screwed the pooch on the Nexus angle and now here we are.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 22, 2013 15:16:33 GMT -5
Being really boring and sloppy in-ring probably didn't help during his first push.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 22, 2013 15:45:11 GMT -5
I think one thing that gets overlooked with Alberto Del Rio is that his matches have unified crowd reactions. He's not a guy like CM Punk where CM Punk can play with Paul Bearer's ashes and the crowd chants CM Punk. In this he's one of their more effective heels right now. And a great wrestler. I think he gives better promos than Wade Barrett and puts on better matches than Wade Barrett, even if he is kind of boring. One thing i agree,get gets a unified crowd reaction of complete silence and apathy. Del Rio probably is a better wrestler than Barret,in terms of ring skills only.But Barret has mroe charisma and better mic skills.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Sept 22, 2013 16:01:30 GMT -5
He was. Around 2010, he was main eventing and got close to getting the WWE title. I just think they pushed him too early. He wasn't that great in the ring but he was pretty good on the mic back then. Then again they gave Miz a title run before he got better in the ring but to me Barrett had more potential. He's one of the only heels in the modern era to get almost 100 percent boos when going against Cena. I never heard "LET'S GO CENA!" "LET'S GO BARRETT!" Also Barrett(and the Nexus) were the only ones to get the crowd to chant "NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP!" to Cena. Starts at 1:11 That's only time I've ever heard that chant. That's the kind of badguy that needs to go against Cena somebody that could get the crowd behind Cena and against him. Barrett was or could have been that guy. Barrett was a great villain to go against Cena's hero character. These two could have had a much larger rivalry. To me it had potential to be one of the great super heel vs. super face feuds.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 22, 2013 16:08:21 GMT -5
Aside from his booking, I don't think he's improved enough (mic wise or in-ring wise) to warrant being a top tier guy. I was really high on him back in 2010 as the Nexus leader tormenting Cena, but I'm starting to wonder how much he was benefiting from a great storyline and how much of that was actually him.
I'd rather have him as WHC right now than Del Rio, but I dunno about him being in say, Orton's spot.
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Post by CM Parish on Sept 22, 2013 16:11:42 GMT -5
He'd be so easy to throw into this corporation story if they booked him as effective and a sort of figure like Bossman was to Vince in the late 90's.
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Post by ededdneddy on Sept 22, 2013 16:23:24 GMT -5
I feel if it wasn't for the injury he got during that battle royal the night after Elimination Chamber 2012 he would have won Money in the Bank and get a sucessful cash in and be WHC
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 22, 2013 16:28:28 GMT -5
He'd be so easy to throw into this corporation story if they booked him as effective and a sort of figure like Bossman was to Vince in the late 90's. Barrett is perfect for the corporation, since as well as it giving him something to actually do, it would make his character a hypocrite considering he was part of a group whose sole purpose was to take the WWE down. Great heel heat. If they decide to add new members, Barrett should be first in line.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2013 16:40:40 GMT -5
I never thought he'd be anywhere near the main event. Me neither. I've always found him pretty bland. Cool accent though.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 22, 2013 16:45:03 GMT -5
I was so pumped for his return promos and I've been really disappointed with his booking.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 22, 2013 17:37:47 GMT -5
I am only marking out for him on the jbl show #badnewsbarrett
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Sept 22, 2013 18:24:52 GMT -5
Supposedly Ziggler got 'his' MitB contract due to Barrett being injured at the time. I seem to remember this was around his mini-push and feud with Orton but my memory might be wrong on that one.
Barrett should be WHC and he would get heat, if only because he's British.
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