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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 15, 2013 7:58:27 GMT -5
You know, I don't get why you're all missing the big point here. Everyone's too busy crying and gnashing teeth to note the obvious. I mean, if this is true, if Hulk's making less than 200K for the year, HOLY CRAP! Remember, this is a guy that since the 80s was not paid anything less than 2 to 3 million, MINIMUM! His WCW contract honestly puts others to shame, toppling off at around 12 million. Even in his later WWE run, and apparently his arrival in TNA, it was still in the 7 digits. Now, the dude has lost about 85% of his worth in the span of 2 years, not to mention his apparent standing in WWE. I reiterate. HO-LY CRAP! That's still a heck of a lot of money when you consider that he only has to work a couple of nights each month, gets to appear on TV every week more than actual wrestlers without having to take any bumps while getting lots of time to do speaking tours and make creepy adverts for web hosts. On top of that, you know he'll get the lions share of the money made from merch using his likeness and trademarks as well as from various ViP fan meet and greets, which should add a fair amount if the people that claim his merchandise sells like hotcakes are to be believed. When TNA signed him way back when, they paid over the odds as they figured they'd get a couple of big matches, now they know that isn't going to happen so his value has been decimated, they know what he can/can't/will do this time around, and so do the WWE so they're not going to throw Rock/Brock money at him. Besides, TNA have shown themselves to be willing to work with the WWE to let them have people under contract so the door is open for Hulk to appear at the run up to Wrestlemania if the WWE choose to, so they know they could still bring him in for an appearance then leave him to be TNA's problem afterward, like they did with Flair.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Oct 15, 2013 8:34:20 GMT -5
I'm disappointed. Not that I wanted to see him in the WWE again or anything, but I really think he ruins the product. Fixed to match my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 8:44:02 GMT -5
Also, I was really hoping, like I actually took a moment before opening the thread to say "PLEASE let this be about his actual back and not that he's returning to iMPACT!"
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Post by doinkmark on Oct 15, 2013 8:49:56 GMT -5
Off-screen Terry Bollea has plenty of value to offer a wrestling company and always will, but on-screen his time has passed and his value is very limited now. It's sad and telling that TNA offered him more money than WWE, a company who could gain the most value from Bollea since the majority of his career is now under their ownership. In short, Bollea needs money and the wrestling companies know it. They also know they most likely can't make money from Hulk Hogan having an actual match anymore because, if nothing else, he's simply physically unable to do so. The inability to wrestle alone greatly decreases his value. No shocker there. If you can't have a match, you can't conclude a proper wrestling storyline. I'm not ordering a pay-per-view or attending a live show, WWE or TNA, just to see Hulk Hogan talk or appear backstage. The whole Hogan as an authority figure role has been done and it didn't help enough long-term. Hogain making a special 'Mania appearance? Also been done. Hall Of Fame induction? Check. Meet And Greet to draw people into the building? Met him a few times. What else is left for him to do on-screen that will make money?
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Post by SOR on Oct 15, 2013 9:01:00 GMT -5
I honestly want to know why TNA thinks Hogan has anything to offer. The man is 60 years old, has done everything one can do in the business, and is in a company that isn't going to attract the casual crowd. Whatever...if they want to continue to dig their grave, go for it. Honestly I think they feel he's a draw for them. Not for ratings but for live audiences and merchandising etc. None of us know what he really makes them so he may not be overpaid at all. I think if he is indeed making around 400,000 a year he's definitely worth that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 9:03:49 GMT -5
Off-screen Terry Bollea has plenty of value to offer a wrestling company and always will, but on-screen his time has passed and his value is very limited now. It's sad and telling that TNA offered him more money than WWE, a company who could gain the most value from Bollea since the majority of his career is now under their ownership. In short, Bollea needs money and the wrestling companies know it. They also know they most likely can't make money from Hulk Hogan having an actual match anymore because, if nothing else, he's simply physically unable to do so. The inability to wrestle alone greatly decreases his value. No shocker there. If you can't have a match, you can't conclude a proper wrestling storyline. I'm not ordering a pay-per-view or attending a live show, WWE or TNA, just to see Hulk Hogan talk or appear backstage. The whole Hogan as an authority figure role has been done and it didn't help enough long-term. Hogain making a special 'Mania appearance? Also been done. Hall Of Fame induction? Check. Meet And Greet to draw people into the building? Met him a few times. What else is left for him to do on-screen that will make money? Agree - Hogan's got zero to offer in terms of on-screen stuff. And arguably his fan base doens't want to see the show Impact is doing. It'd be like a elder statesmen of the Rock biz James Hetfield going out and promoting an Odd Future show.
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Post by starsky on Oct 15, 2013 9:04:10 GMT -5
Damn, I wanted him back in WWE. I wanted him on the moon or in deep space but that's just me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 9:29:45 GMT -5
John Cena back 4 months early. Hulk Hogan quits TNA and is back in 2 weeks. Wrestling is trying to push me out the door. What's wrong with Cena? He's possibly the best overall performer in the WWE (it's between him and D-Bry), he is a draw, and adds to the product. His character does not appeal to me, and I have been waiting since I started watching again in 2008 to see a Cena-less WWE. And I thought I was going to get that for 6 months, and there was a lot of promise when he first left. But now that main angle has gotten lame besides Cody and Goldust getting pushes, and John Cena is back to save the day. When they announced he was facing Del Rio at HIAC, I nearly shut Raw off, and I'm a big wrestling fan so it takes a lot to make me want to do that. I had an eerily similar feeling when I read "Hulk's back."
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Oct 15, 2013 9:37:43 GMT -5
I love this gif, but I have to ask, is that a Hulkamania themed hemorrhoid pillow under his bum? If so market that thing asap TNA and recoup your investment.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 15, 2013 9:44:38 GMT -5
I love this gif, but I have to ask, is that a Hulkamania themed hemorrhoid pillow under his bum? If so market that thing asap TNA and recoup your investment. Hulk Hogan avoids the 'roids, brother. He got his peak physique and 40 inch pythons through saying his prayers and taking vitamins no matter what those bogus dudes in washington claimed, jack... No wait, wrong 'roids.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Oct 15, 2013 9:45:20 GMT -5
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 15, 2013 16:01:57 GMT -5
Where is the 200k coming from? I find it really hard to believe that's the best he could do. Dude could probably make more then that outside of wrestling fairly easily
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Post by Square on Oct 15, 2013 16:13:59 GMT -5
If Hogan could put aside his ego he would be an incredible color commentator for TNA. Have him along with Teney and a younger guy to carry the load and have Hogan in the Lawler role.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 15, 2013 16:15:19 GMT -5
Okay I think I have it figured out. The article says Hogan's getting for a year what Brock gets for a MATCH, not appearance.
On Brock's first 1 year contract he wrestled 3 times, and made roughly $5 mil. (Could be more could be less, I wanna say it was incentive loaded but I don't remember) so Brock made around 1.65 mil. per match and surrounding appearances. I think he only worked like 10-12 dates the whole year so even if we broke it down to a per appearance number it would still be a lot closer to 500k then 150k.
And honestly, doesn't Hogan making 1.5 million a year sound a lot more realistic then 150k? Even of you think it's a waste of money, I think it's a lot closer to what he'd ask for.
Also, as much as I think Vince probably did lowball Hogan, I really, REALLY don't think he'd offer so low that $125k easily beats it.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 15, 2013 16:35:19 GMT -5
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Oct 15, 2013 16:40:09 GMT -5
Spike/Viacom wants big names on their network. To them, Hulk Hogan is a big name. TNA has to keep Spike happy because they're done if that TV deal goes.
If TNA got Spike to foot a good chunk of the bill, and can try to make Hogan somewhat bearable on TV, they're making the best of a bad situation.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 15, 2013 18:08:23 GMT -5
From PWInsider:
As a follow-up to my article on Hulk Hogan earlier today, PWInsider.com has confirmed with sources on both sides that no deal has been signed between TNA and Hulk Hogan.
So, Hogan remains a free agent.
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 15, 2013 18:15:32 GMT -5
Okay I think I have it figured out. The article says Hogan's getting for a year what Brock gets for a MATCH, not appearance. On Brock's first 1 year contract he wrestled 3 times, and made roughly $5 mil. (Could be more could be less, I wanna say it was incentive loaded but I don't remember) so Brock made around 1.65 mil. per match and surrounding appearances. I think he only worked like 10-12 dates the whole year so even if we broke it down to a per appearance number it would still be a lot closer to 500k then 150k. And honestly, doesn't Hogan making 1.5 million a year sound a lot more realistic then 150k? Even of you think it's a waste of money, I think it's a lot closer to what he'd ask for. Also, as much as I think Vince probably did lowball Hogan, I really, REALLY don't think he'd offer so low that $125k easily beats it. You know what. That makes a lot more sense. I guess it was too much to think Hogan had lost that much stock, and would be insane to think an offer like that would occur.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 15, 2013 18:18:52 GMT -5
Okay I think I have it figured out. The article says Hogan's getting for a year what Brock gets for a MATCH, not appearance. On Brock's first 1 year contract he wrestled 3 times, and made roughly $5 mil. (Could be more could be less, I wanna say it was incentive loaded but I don't remember) so Brock made around 1.65 mil. per match and surrounding appearances. I think he only worked like 10-12 dates the whole year so even if we broke it down to a per appearance number it would still be a lot closer to 500k then 150k. And honestly, doesn't Hogan making 1.5 million a year sound a lot more realistic then 150k? Even of you think it's a waste of money, I think it's a lot closer to what he'd ask for. Also, as much as I think Vince probably did lowball Hogan, I really, REALLY don't think he'd offer so low that $125k easily beats it. You know what. That makes a lot more sense. I guess it was too much to think Hogan had lost that much stock, and would be insane to think an offer like that would occur. Seems you might have been confusing what he seems to be worth with what TNA estimated him to be worth, lol.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 15, 2013 18:24:42 GMT -5
I'm so sad I won't get to see Hulk back in the big leagues. I'll just pretend he's retired until he comes back home to WWE. Don't worry, that's the same way Hulk feels.
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