|
|
Post by thwak is T.hawk on Dec 10, 2006 5:33:49 GMT -5
I know that yamada used it in 92 after watching her hair vs. hair match with toyota, I also know that megumi kudo used it as well.
so my question is who came up with the move? I just kind of find it interesting that a move that alot of people find devestating was used alot by joshi wrestlers.
|
|
|
|
Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 10, 2006 5:45:50 GMT -5
Wiki (so take it for what you will) says Megumi Kudo is the originator of the move.
|
|
|
|
Post by LARIATOOO! on Dec 10, 2006 6:43:21 GMT -5
Megumi Kudo invented it and called it the Kudo driver
|
|
|
|
Post by odanobunaga on Dec 10, 2006 9:28:16 GMT -5
Gotta love Kudo. Her power moves made me fear for my life.
|
|
|
|
Post by Psy on Dec 10, 2006 9:59:30 GMT -5
Wasn't the DVD invented by a joshi wrestler too?
|
|
|
|
Post by samachine on Dec 10, 2006 10:29:55 GMT -5
Kudo. Duh. Gregory Helms credit stealing moron couldn't even do a shining wizard right, much less make a move.
|
|
|
|
Post by thwak is T.hawk on Dec 10, 2006 19:40:22 GMT -5
the thing is though during toyota/yamada hair vs. hair you can clearly see yamada going for that move and this was before kudo even started wrestling.
|
|
Matt Rogers
King Koopa
member is currently offline <stalking Emma Watson>
Omae wa mo shindeiru.
Posts: 11,869
|
Post by Matt Rogers on Dec 10, 2006 19:41:31 GMT -5
Kudo. Duh. Gregory Helms credit stealing moron couldn't even do a shining wizard right, much less make a move. Did you miss the part where Mutoh specified that the Shining Wizard is actually an enzuiguri?  |
|
|
|
Post by odanobunaga on Dec 10, 2006 19:48:20 GMT -5
Meaahahah Mutoh botches a Enzuiguri once, people think it´s a new move and they all use it now. He must feel like a genius or something . |
|
El Pollo Guerrera
Grimlock
His name has chicken in it, and he is good at makin' .gifs, so that's cool.
Status: Runner
Posts: 14,743
|
Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 11, 2006 2:03:19 GMT -5
Wasn't the DVD invented by a joshi wrestler too? I thought the DVD was from Louis Spicoli. Well, when you get down to it, the DDT was a front chancery until someone stepped on Jake Roberts' foot, and the Powerbomb was a mess-up Piledriver when Bruno Sammartino dropped the guy on his back and not his head. Recognising it as something special that has happened and using it again is the genius. |
|
Boku AKA Da Green Guy
El Dandy
WC's Resident Pirate Otaku and Official Scapegoat
Always and Forever, Hurricane.
Posts: 8,371
|
Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Dec 11, 2006 2:06:02 GMT -5
Kudo. Duh. Gregory Helms credit stealing moron couldn't even do a shining wizard right, much less make a move.  Because the 'E also all wrestlers to do the exact moves the ways Puros work. And personally... I think that Helms does a better Vertebreaker than Homicide. But then I'm just a Helms mark. |
|
|
|
Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 11, 2006 2:07:37 GMT -5
and the Powerbomb was a mess-up Piledriver when Bruno Sammartino dropped the guy on his back and not his head. Recognising it as something special that has happened and using it again is the genius. I thought that was Lou Thesz? |
|
|
|
Post by Virt McGirt on Dec 11, 2006 2:19:41 GMT -5
I cant post the video (cuz it's so vulgar  ), but, Megumi Kudo (AKA Sweet Sugar Ass) was the first one I saw do it on Stranglemania II. Edit: And besides, I have a feeling that even if they bleeped it, everyone'd ignore the match and be all "ZOMG, ICP IZ TEH SUXXORSS1111" |
|
|
|
Post by ajdynon on Dec 11, 2006 3:06:17 GMT -5
the thing is though during toyota/yamada hair vs. hair you can clearly see yamada going for that move and this was before kudo even started wrestling. Actually, Kudo was part of the AJW Class of '86, but never rose up the card in AJW. She eventually left and joined FMW, where she got her mega-push. |
|
STMP
Hank Scorpio
Wild and Only 50
Posts: 5,569
|
Post by STMP on Dec 11, 2006 14:45:00 GMT -5
and the Powerbomb was a mess-up Piledriver when Bruno Sammartino dropped the guy on his back and not his head. Recognising it as something special that has happened and using it again is the genius. I thought that was Lou Thesz? Yep, it's Thesz. He went for a piledriver on Rikidozan and he slipped, dropping Rikidozan on his head. I guess he found it a cool but unsafe move so changed it to his opponent falling on his back. I have seen a match where Thesz actually does a powerbomb on Rikidozan, so it didn't start with Sammartino. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 15:16:35 GMT -5
Wasn't the DVD invented by a joshi wrestler too? Yup, by Etsuko Mita, one half of Las Cachorras Orientales (LCO) in AJW. |
|
|
|
Post by Psy on Dec 11, 2006 15:35:43 GMT -5
Kudo. Duh. Gregory Helms credit stealing moron couldn't even do a shining wizard right, much less make a move. Did you miss the part where Mutoh specified that the Shining Wizard is actually an enzuiguri? I didn't know that. I recall reading that he saw a shoot fighter do a running knee to the face, and liked it and started using it. |
|
Matt Rogers
King Koopa
member is currently offline <stalking Emma Watson>
Omae wa mo shindeiru.
Posts: 11,869
|
Post by Matt Rogers on Dec 11, 2006 15:42:52 GMT -5
Did you miss the part where Mutoh specified that the Shining Wizard is actually an enzuiguri? I didn't know that. I recall reading that he saw a shoot fighter do a running knee to the face, and liked it and started using it. Exactly! ;D |
|
|
|
Post by Michael Coello on Dec 11, 2006 15:43:06 GMT -5
Wow. Women created these moves, and all most people can have them do is pose half-naked?
|
|
|
|
Post by thwak is T.hawk on Dec 11, 2006 16:37:12 GMT -5
the thing is though during toyota/yamada hair vs. hair you can clearly see yamada going for that move and this was before kudo even started wrestling. Actually, Kudo was part of the AJW Class of '86, but never rose up the card in AJW. She eventually left and joined FMW, where she got her mega-push. I read that too but I'm still wondering if she used the move before yamada. crap we need more joshi nerds in the world to tell us these things. |
|
), but, Megumi Kudo (AKA Sweet Sugar Ass) was the first one I saw do it on Stranglemania II.
