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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Nov 5, 2013 9:47:12 GMT -5
How much would it be sold for? I'm just curious really. I know WCW was sold for very little but that was mostly because there was no TV deal on the table. Would anyone like to take a guess?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 5, 2013 9:49:32 GMT -5
Exactly 5 dollars and 75 cents. Serious answer, theres really no way to know since TNA doesn't disclose its financials to the public at large. So we can't really make an educated guess at what the company is actually worth.
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Post by BigBadZ on Nov 5, 2013 9:50:40 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 5, 2013 9:53:09 GMT -5
It's value is somewhere between a McDouble and Oprah
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Post by SOR on Nov 5, 2013 11:05:48 GMT -5
I'd say between 5-6 million dollars. Prime time cable time slot is worth A LOT
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Nov 5, 2013 11:10:10 GMT -5
I'd say between 5-6 million dollars. Prime time cable time slot is worth A LOT I was actually thinking it would probably be worth even more, but have no idea. Hopefully, someone can give a non-joke answer with some more specifics to back it up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 11:12:39 GMT -5
I want to say around $50 Million as The Carters are going to want to save face and at least get something for all their troubles.
But wouldn't be surprised if the final sale figure is at $25 Million or even less. TNA has few assets and quite a lot of liabilities.
What interesting here is that if a reasonable offer is made, will Dixie even have a say in whether Panda accepts or not?
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Post by ICBM on Nov 5, 2013 11:29:41 GMT -5
$15-20mil is my best guess. Licenses have potential value but have not been exploited anywhere close to WWE. The tv spot is the most valuable. The tapes have potential value so they could get some coin that way. My hope is that some contracts are not rolled into a sale. As in Sting, Kurt Angle and Hardy. Sting free could be picked up by WWE for a one shot deal vs you know who. Angle I would like to see in one last WWE run then retire. Hardy isn't being used as he should and now that he's clean another WWE run would be good
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Post by SOR on Nov 5, 2013 12:09:05 GMT -5
$15-20mil is my best guess. Licenses have potential value but have not been exploited anywhere close to WWE. The tv spot is the most valuable. The tapes have potential value so they could get some coin that way. My hope is that some contracts are not rolled into a sale. As in Sting, Kurt Angle and Hardy. Sting free could be picked up by WWE for a one shot deal vs you know who. Angle I would like to see in one last WWE run then retire. Hardy isn't being used as he should and now that he's clean another WWE run would be good I think you'd be in luck. According to the sheets (Not the best source but regardless...) the bigger name guys such as Angle, Hardy and Sting aren't under TNA contracts but Panda contracts so you'd assume if TNA did go away from Panda entirely that they'd be free agents. I think all three would re-sign with TNA but the new owner might not be able to afford all three leading to a WWE return.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Nov 5, 2013 12:16:02 GMT -5
Phew a TNA without Angle, Sting, and Hardy would be an interesting sight to behold.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 5, 2013 12:31:16 GMT -5
I'd go with the $15-$20 million range with most of that going to pay off their debts. People blather on about how WCW was only worth $5 million and it had a much longer history so TNA is worthless, but it was horrendously undervalued, everyone knows that. TNA has a lot of things that WCW lacked, a TV deal with a channel that's happy to have them, owners that aren't desperate to sell and a DVD and video on demand market that is reasonably developed. ]I think you'd be in luck. According to the sheets (Not the best source but regardless...) the bigger name guys such as Angle, Hardy and Sting aren't under TNA contracts but Panda contracts so you'd assume if TNA did go away from Panda entirely that they'd be free agents. I think all three would re-sign with TNA but the new owner might not be able to afford all three leading to a WWE return. I thought it was only Flair that demanded a Panda energy contract? If they are, I see the Time Warner contract situation arising again where they're happy to sit at home and recuperate, collecting money for nothing rather than accepting a buyout from the WWE to go on the road for most of the year and run the risk of being punished for working elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 12:51:12 GMT -5
I thought that Spike was actually helping out with contracts for at least Sting and Angle, maybe Jeff as well. I have no idea if that is true or if it were just one of those rumors that came to be regarded as fact though.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 5, 2013 17:34:45 GMT -5
WCW without TV time, with a shitload of talent, but a name that was still getting ratings of 2-3 times what TNA was getting, was sold for $3 million I think. I doubt it'd get more than that. WCW may not have had TV time, but its name was worth MUCH more than TNA's, as the buyrates in WWF proved.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 5, 2013 17:39:31 GMT -5
$10M if the Carters were lucky. The only major asset is the TV slot. TNA doesn't own any of its equipment like cameras and stuff. Its all on lease. The tape library I dont believe would even be that valuable considering its not a very old company and the interest in that alone would be minimal.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 5, 2013 17:43:59 GMT -5
WCW without TV time, with a shitload of talent, but a name that was still getting ratings of 2-3 times what TNA was getting, was sold for $3 million I think. I doubt it'd get more than that. WCW may not have had TV time, but its name was worth MUCH more than TNA's, as the buyrates in WWF proved. I don't think that's a good comparison. Time Warner just wanted out. They had a huge overhead with WCW due to the stupid contracts they owed and a crapload of lawsuits against the company. It all depends on what the Carters want here. If they just want out, it will go for pennies, they will cut and run. TNA doesn't have the mountain of debt that WCW did at the time. Time Warner just washed their hands of it. No one other than the WWE was going to buy the few assets they had left.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 5, 2013 17:49:20 GMT -5
WCW without TV time, with a shitload of talent, but a name that was still getting ratings of 2-3 times what TNA was getting, was sold for $3 million I think. I doubt it'd get more than that. WCW may not have had TV time, but its name was worth MUCH more than TNA's, as the buyrates in WWF proved. I don't think that's a good comparison. Time Warner just wanted out. They had a huge overhead with WCW due to the stupid contracts they owed and a crapload of lawsuits against the company. It all depends on what the Carters want here. If they just want out, it will go for pennies, they will cut and run. TNA doesn't have the mountain of debt that WCW did at the time. Time Warner just washed their hands of it. No one other than the WWE was going to buy the few assets they had left. Except that Time Warner still had to keep the ridiculous contracts, that's why the WWF didn't get any of the big stars outside of Page and Booker.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Nov 5, 2013 17:52:52 GMT -5
I don't think that's a good comparison. Time Warner just wanted out. They had a huge overhead with WCW due to the stupid contracts they owed and a crapload of lawsuits against the company. It all depends on what the Carters want here. If they just want out, it will go for pennies, they will cut and run. TNA doesn't have the mountain of debt that WCW did at the time. Time Warner just washed their hands of it. No one other than the WWE was going to buy the few assets they had left. Except that Time Warner still had to keep the ridiculous contracts, that's why the WWF didn't get any of the big stars outside of Page and Booker. Which is why they sold WCW's assets so cheaply. They had a dead fish on their hands and wanted out as soon as possible and to move on. There wasnt going to be much of a market for a wrestling company with a mountain of debt and lawsuits with no TV slot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 18:16:01 GMT -5
Except that Time Warner still had to keep the ridiculous contracts, that's why the WWF didn't get any of the big stars outside of Page and Booker. Which is why they sold WCW's assets so cheaply. They had a dead fish on their hands and wanted out as soon as possible and to move on. There wasnt going to be much of a market for a wrestling company with a mountain of debt and lawsuits with no TV slot. Its interesting to me that Spike TV or its parent company doesn't seem to be in the running for TNA. You'd think they'd be able to get a great deal on it, considering they already have a working relationshp with the Carters and likely inside knowledge of the company's value. That being said - I'd put TNA's actual dollar value at around $4-5MM (excluding any SpikeTV owned contracts). A 2 hour cable TV show isn't worth THAT much in today's market (unless they are absolutely crushing it in the ratings, like 3's & 4's or higher), even more so now than it was 10-15 years ago, so that's really being generous. Not a knock against TNA, but just the reality of being a TV show in 2013. Add on top of that you're basically running a company whose main job is to create a 2 hours worth of content with a cast and crew 4-6 times larger than your average 1hour long show and we're talking very low profit margin for a potential buyer, especially if they have to go through SpikeTV for any huge content changes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2013 20:38:16 GMT -5
This is very shocking. They are actually giving out Panda Energy contracts!? Are they nuts? Well they must be, to have given Hulk Hogan creative control.
WCW is nothing like TNA. TNA can still continue on as it is. WCW was done. Whether anyone bout it or not. WWE was the only company in a position to make any money off a WCW sale anyway, so they could probably have held out and bout it for even less.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Nov 5, 2013 20:43:13 GMT -5
TNA is worth the value of the tape library and TV. The tape library if they lose TV, I'd say $100,000 as a random guessitimate. The TV is what is the main deal, and the capitol to continue on with the company, by paying talent, production, etc. I'm wondering if people would be interested in continuing on with the company if it's just going to continue losing money. I feel if they had someone competent in place, it could potentially make money.
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