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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 8, 2013 7:55:27 GMT -5
I think it's amusing that huge events in wrestling often have as featured or background players mediocre wrestlers, people with quite low key careers (albeit not necessarily deserved) or outright scrubs. Examples:
- Hugh Morrus, the man who lost to Goldberg in his very first match in 1997. Career otherwise basically worthless for the most part.
- Lance Storm, the first man to appear in the InVasion, to superkick Perry Saturn if I remember rightly. Two fantastic wrestlers neither of whom did a great deal of note (and I love Storm's WCW run but it's true)
- Mike Enos, who was wrestling someone (I can't even remember who) on Nitro when Scott Hall debuted in WCW in 1996.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 8, 2013 8:37:29 GMT -5
I think it's amusing that huge events in wrestling often have as featured or background players mediocre wrestlers, people with quite low key careers (albeit not necessarily deserved) or outright scrubs. Examples: - Hugh Morrus, the man who lost to Goldberg in his very first match in 1997. Career otherwise basically worthless for the most part. - Lance Storm, the first man to appear in the InVasion, to superkick Perry Saturn if I remember rightly. Two fantastic wrestlers neither of whom did a great deal of note (and I love Storm's WCW run but it's true) . Actually, Morrus was the first wcw star to appear in the Invasion, doing a run-in in a match and giving edge the "no laughing matter" moonsault. |
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Post by Stu on Nov 8, 2013 9:28:26 GMT -5
Nope, Lance Storm came out a week or two before Hugh Morrus. That was followed by Stacy Kiebler (with Shane McMahon) and then Sean O'Haire and Chuck Palumbo (who got beat up by the APA and crew).
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 8, 2013 10:41:07 GMT -5
OP seems to have a weird definition of doing nothing of note. I can't think of anyone getting as much prime-time exposure as Storm or Morrus did as not having amazing careers.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 8, 2013 11:11:50 GMT -5
The other guy with Enos was Steve Doll.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Nov 8, 2013 12:10:31 GMT -5
The other guy with Enos was Steve Doll. Steve Doll, of course, being half of the jobber tag team Well Dunn in mid-90s WWF. |
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Nov 8, 2013 12:18:39 GMT -5
The other guy with Enos was Steve Doll. Steve Doll, of course, being half of the jobber tag team Well Dunn in mid-90s WWF. I guess you can say that at that point in time, Doll's career was....well done. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 8, 2013 15:02:59 GMT -5
I think it's amusing that huge events in wrestling often have as featured or background players mediocre wrestlers, people with quite low key careers (albeit not necessarily deserved) or outright scrubs. Examples: - Hugh Morrus, the man who lost to Goldberg in his very first match in 1997. Career otherwise basically worthless for the most part. - Lance Storm, the first man to appear in the InVasion, to superkick Perry Saturn if I remember rightly. Two fantastic wrestlers neither of whom did a great deal of note (and I love Storm's WCW run but it's true) - Mike Enos, who was wrestling someone (I can't even remember who) on Nitro when Scott Hall debuted in WCW in 1996. Mike Enos is a former AWA tag team champion Between ECW, WCW and WWF/E, Storm won 13 titles Hugh Morrus, former WCW US champ (complete with the entire face roster, INCLUDING Goldberg, coming out to celebrate and honor him) Even with the "title wins in a worked sport" argument, those aren't footnotes of mediocre careers. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 15:06:34 GMT -5
How about Vito LoGrasso being one of the few guys to pin Misawa.
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Post by chazraps on Nov 8, 2013 15:21:19 GMT -5
Just making it on-screen once in a major promotion kind of makes your wrestling career above what could be considered "mediocre." Getting even a chance in the big leagues seems insurmountably tough.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 8, 2013 15:30:10 GMT -5
Omar Atlas wrestled Jesse Ventura in his first (jesse's) professional match. Other than that, Omar's only other claim to fame was being a wwf jobber.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Nov 8, 2013 15:53:57 GMT -5
I may be wrong here but isn't the highest rated wrestling match (not including specials like SNME, The 88 Rumble, Clash of the Champions etc.) one that contains two of the Mean Street Posse against Patterson and Brisco?
That's a pretty good footnote for Rodney, Pete Gas or Joey Abs (whatever two it was).
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 9, 2013 2:53:12 GMT -5
I may be wrong here but isn't the highest rated wrestling match (not including specials like SNME, The 88 Rumble, Clash of the Champions etc.) one that contains two of the Mean Street Posse against Patterson and Brisco? That's a pretty good footnote for Rodney, Pete Gas or Joey Abs (whatever two it was). Yeah, I believe you are correct. I've heard that. I can't tell you it's actually true. |
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Post by percymania on Nov 9, 2013 3:13:44 GMT -5
Scott Hall worked in WCW prior to 1996, but I get what you mean. I think that match involved The Gambler.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 9, 2013 12:53:42 GMT -5
Okay, mediocre may have been the wrong word. I seem to have used 'mediocre' in the stereotypically IWC type definition of 'never won a world title.'
Especially stupid given that I mark for Lance Storm.
Although I'd still argue that one AWA title reign isn't a particularly notable career...
Also, I need to see this video of Morrus celebrating his USA title win including Goldberg, that sounds like a great moment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 14:09:26 GMT -5
The appearance in the Terry Funk portion of "Beyond The Mat" is probably the most noteworthy thing we know about Dennis Stamp. Not his Brass Knuckles title reigns in Amarillo, not his tag-team title wins down there, or feuding with Dory Funk Jr.
"I'm not booked." "I made plans." Yeah, that's what we know about poor Dennis.
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Edit: Another one I just thought of, until I found out about his wrestling school, the most noteworthy thing about "The Unpredictable" Johnny Rodz that I can remember was: he was one of the guys getting leg-dropped by Hulk Hogan in the opening montage of WWF's All-American Wrestling.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 9, 2013 16:00:08 GMT -5
Also, I need to see this video of Morrus celebrating his USA title win including Goldberg, that sounds like a great moment. Took place on the Nitro after his PPV win: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVWq9BXLnSw |
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 9, 2013 16:58:05 GMT -5
Jacques Rougeau pinned Hulk Hogan cleanly in 1997
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 9, 2013 17:18:29 GMT -5
Jacques Rougeau pinned Hulk Hogan cleanly in 1997 Yes, even Hulk Hogan had a mediocre career in comparison to the greatness that is The Mountie. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 9, 2013 17:31:50 GMT -5
Jacques Rougeau pinned Hulk Hogan cleanly in 1997 Okay, yeah, I think we're getting far, far away from the concept of what "mediocre career" means. Multiple title holder, one of the biggest draws not named "Hart" in his home country, had a sell-out crowd of 16k+ to see his retirement match and was a champion pretty much everywhere he went pre-WWF. And then there's that whole "pissed off an entire national law agency" thing, not to mention his near-legendary dirty-but-deserved beatdown of Dynamite Kid. |
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