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Post by Chuck Conry on Nov 14, 2013 0:04:36 GMT -5
Talent can get a strike taken off now...
- WWE quietly updated its Wellness Policy back on July 23rd. Several things were added, including the following:
* WWE talent can request a Therapeutic Use Exception for a prohibited drug if there is a legitimate medical purpose with a valid prescription from a licensed and treating physician. The use of the drug must be required for more than sixty straight days and the dosage must be "documented in accordance with standards and practices commonly accepted within the United States medical community." The TUE will be in effect for no more than a calendar year.
* Any WWE talent who is arrested, convicted or who admits to a violation of law in relation to the use, possession, purchase, sale or distribution of drugs will be in breach of contract and subject to immediate dismissal.
* A "positive test for alcohol" will result in a $2,500 fine per positive test, taken from the talent's downside guarantee.
* A talent who has two violations of the Wellness Policy may enter a "Redemption Program" if the Medical Director approves it. The program is an eighteen month treatment process overseen by the Medicalk Director or an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director. Mandatory follow-up testing is required and no further violations during the program are allowed. After this time, talent can request to have a violation removed.
* The following provision was added in relation to substance abuse:
"Pain medications, and other substances prohibited by this Policy, may be abused at times and can become addictive. A WWE Talent who believes he/she may have a problem with substance abuse is encouraged to self-report and request assistance. No penalties are imposed on WWE Talent for voluntarily acknowledging a problem to the Medical Director prior to a drug test being performed herein and WWE will assist in securing rehabilitation services in such situations. The rehabilitation process can be engaged by a WWE Talent notifying the Medical Director, the PA, WWE Ringside Physicians or the WWE Wellness Coordinator that he/she has a problem and needs assistance."
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Post by britishbulldog on Nov 14, 2013 0:07:34 GMT -5
I think they are all good changes.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 14, 2013 0:09:41 GMT -5
Dirt sheets still report who violates Wellness though, right? I'm not sure how many guys are going to voluntarily come clean about abuse problems when they'd still have their name posted everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 0:10:08 GMT -5
I don't like the strike removal thing. That kind of seems to me like it has no real point besides giving them an out for if someone does hit three strikes, and three's pretty much enough as it is. Especially seeing as they already have a system in place for how a person who gets three strikes could come back; it just seems like there's no point to it outside of their own convenience.
Though on the other hand, it is weird that they added a rule that if it were in place six months ago would have caused them to have to scramble to find a new Mania World title match.
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Post by Gopher Mod on Nov 14, 2013 0:11:55 GMT -5
Dirt sheets still report who violates Wellness though, right? I'm not sure how many guys are going to voluntarily come clean about abuse problems when they'd still have their name posted everywhere. It isn't the dirt sheets; WWE themselves report the violations of the Wellness Policy. It's how we found out what Sin Cara's name really is amongst other things. |
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 14, 2013 0:13:23 GMT -5
The first one is a bit confusing to me. I get the exception for legitimate medical reasons part (although we know there are physicians who will write prescriptions to justify athletes getting illegal drugs), but I don't get the reasoning behind the policy only being in place for one year. It makes me sound like someone got caught and they needed a way to ensure that it wasn't a violation.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Nov 14, 2013 0:14:36 GMT -5
My first thought when reading this was "Someone wanted this clause to exist back during the Swagger situation but it didn't." Probably not an accurate thought, but my first thought nonetheless.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 14, 2013 0:16:29 GMT -5
I think these are good changes, in particular the alcohol one. The WWE is actually going to try to do something about all the damn DUIs wrestlers get. I don't like the strike removal thing. That kind of seems to me like it has no real point besides giving them an out for if someone does hit three strikes, and three's pretty much enough as it is. Especially seeing as they already have a system in place for how a person who gets three strikes could come back; it just seems like there's no point to it outside of their own convenience. But it's an 18 month program, if it was only a few months I'd agree, but this is a year and a half. Hell that's longer than it would be for someone to get back into the company after 3 strikes. |
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Post by Shark on Nov 14, 2013 0:19:09 GMT -5
I don't mind these changes. I was fixing to not like a superstar being able to remove a strike, but there is a long process before you can even apply to have it taken off so I can live with it. Also the number of people with 2 strikes in WWE isn't that high. I think it's only Orton, Truth, and Evan Bourne.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Nov 14, 2013 0:21:09 GMT -5
I don't mind these changes. I was fixing to not like a superstar being able to remove a strike, but there is a long process before you can even apply to have it taken off so I can live with it. Also the number of people with 2 strikes in WWE isn't that high. I think it's only Orton, Truth, and Evan Bourne. Misterio and I think Ryback both have two as well. I think Truth only has one. Jeff Hardy if he were to return would have two as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 0:23:36 GMT -5
I don't mind these changes. I was fixing to not like a superstar being able to remove a strike, but there is a long process before you can even apply to have it taken off so I can live with it. Also the number of people with 2 strikes in WWE isn't that high. I think it's only Orton, Truth, and Evan Bourne. Misterio and I think Ryback both have two as well. I think Truth only has one. Jeff Hardy if he were to return would have two as well. I think Ryback only has one. Also, while I doubt they even bother testing him at this point, William Regal has two, and if they brought them back Carlito and Chris Masters each have two. |
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Post by saintpat on Nov 14, 2013 0:28:24 GMT -5
The first one is a bit confusing to me. I get the exception for legitimate medical reasons part (although we know there are physicians who will write prescriptions to justify athletes getting illegal drugs), but I don't get the reasoning behind the policy only being in place for one year. It makes me sound like someone got caught and they needed a way to ensure that it wasn't a violation. The Theraputic Use Exception can only be in place for one year -- this means that if a Superstar needs ongoing treatment that requires use of, say, painkillers or steroids or whatever, it cannot continue indefinitely. He has to be off them within a year. For instance, following surgery John Cena may have been prescribed steroids to aid in his recovery (not uncommon) but he couldn't continue to be on them for longer than a year and use the "well the doctor prescribed them them to recover from my surgery" for a period of longer than a year. I'm sure they will work with the doctors in such a case as to insure that no one uses this as an ongoing excuse to use painkillers or steroids, etc., beyond a point where they are medically necessary. |
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Post by Shark on Nov 14, 2013 0:29:01 GMT -5
When did Ryback get one?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 0:33:39 GMT -5
Back in 2006 shortly after they introduced it. Though on looking into it further, he evidently claimed it was due to a false read from a bodybuilding supplement that's since been discontinued and he took a second test that he passed, so he may have no strikes. |
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 14, 2013 0:39:43 GMT -5
* A talent who has two violations of the Wellness Policy may enter a "Redemption Program" if the Medical Director approves it. The program is an eighteen month treatment process overseen by the Medicalk Director or an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director. Mandatory follow-up testing is required and no further violations during the program are allowed. After this time, talent can request to have a violation removed. You know they came up with this part just for Orton. |
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Post by Red Impact on Nov 14, 2013 0:40:49 GMT -5
The first one is a bit confusing to me. I get the exception for legitimate medical reasons part (although we know there are physicians who will write prescriptions to justify athletes getting illegal drugs), but I don't get the reasoning behind the policy only being in place for one year. It makes me sound like someone got caught and they needed a way to ensure that it wasn't a violation. The Theraputic Use Exception can only be in place for one year -- this means that if a Superstar needs ongoing treatment that requires use of, say, painkillers or steroids or whatever, it cannot continue indefinitely. He has to be off them within a year. For instance, following surgery John Cena may have been prescribed steroids to aid in his recovery (not uncommon) but he couldn't continue to be on them for longer than a year and use the "well the doctor prescribed them them to recover from my surgery" for a period of longer than a year. I'm sure they will work with the doctors in such a case as to insure that no one uses this as an ongoing excuse to use painkillers or steroids, etc., beyond a point where they are medically necessary. Ok, that makes more sense. I'd read it that the policy itself wouldn't be around for more than one year, which was odd. |
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Post by Lila on Nov 14, 2013 0:44:13 GMT -5
* A talent who has two violations of the Wellness Policy may enter a "Redemption Program" if the Medical Director approves it. The program is an eighteen month treatment process overseen by the Medicalk Director or an addiction specialist recommended by the Medical Director. Mandatory follow-up testing is required and no further violations during the program are allowed. After this time, talent can request to have a violation removed. You know they came up with this part just for Orton. Exactly what I was thinking too. A lovely safety net for Orton. |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 14, 2013 0:49:24 GMT -5
You know they came up with this part just for Orton. Exactly what I was thinking too. A lovely safety net for Orton. Dude would have to be a bonified idiot to screw this up now. Imagine getting that last strike while you're trying to get it taken off. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 14, 2013 0:53:34 GMT -5
You know they came up with this part just for Orton. Exactly what I was thinking too. A lovely safety net for Orton. And Mysterio, and if Jeff Hardy returns. |
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Post by Lila on Nov 14, 2013 0:57:00 GMT -5
Exactly what I was thinking too. A lovely safety net for Orton. Dude would have to be a bonified idiot to screw this up now. Imagine getting that last strike while you're trying to get it taken off. Not to say this could play a faction into him potentially messing up, but the man just got of a divorce and knows girls are lining for him, ready to party hard. |
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