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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 5:05:05 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with giving someone who comes from a non-wrestling background a job in wrestling. What I do have a problem with is handing out a VERY important job to someone who apparently has little to no knowledge of wrestling. The issue being that person needs to learn the ropes before being given such a demanding position. So you think Doug Basham showing up in OVW was a shaved head was bad? Ooooh, I can't wait to see what this guy does if the report is correct. Maybe the job isn't as important as it used to be. It's possible that talent scouts like Regal and whoever's overseeing the day-to-day operations at the training center are reporting directly to Triple H. Maybe the new guy's main responsibility is to just make sure all the paperwork is in order. That doesn't require much wrestling knowledge.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Nov 15, 2013 9:33:01 GMT -5
Sounds like a major demotion for Jane? From Senior VP of Talent Relations to Triple H's personal servant?
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Nov 15, 2013 9:39:13 GMT -5
Just because a news article says the person hired has no experience does not automatically make it truth. I refuse to believe any major company would give someone a prominent position because they look executivey enough. Counter-point: This is a company that is run by Vince McMahon.
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 15, 2013 9:44:49 GMT -5
Even if he really doesn't have experience with the product, Laurinaitis did and he was ultimately terrible. There are cases of someone doing better than expected in certain positions. But honestly, I think this is NEWZ. Except Laurinaitis wasn't all terrible. He just had the unfortunate task of following a guy who was better than him in Jim Ross. Also, WWE as a whole had changed their format in terms of expectations from what they want from the talent, so more responsibility fell onto Laurinaitis and McMahon as a whole being much much more hands off than he had been before. And let's not act like Jim Ross didn't have many many failures, simply because he was at the realm during a hot period as opposed to the dreadful middle years. Letting Jarrett's contract expire is about as awful as anything that Ace is blamed for during his stint. Laurinaitis was simply a go-between most of the time, middle management, if you will. Anyone who knows anything about middle management is the brunt of the shit will always fall on you, no matter what. You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. With the way that Vince McMahon changes his plans, do you think that Johnny is ultimately responsible for the split decisions (especially the nonsense that Cornette solely blames him for) and abrupt shit that happened. Did he do an amazing job? Hell no. But he did what the front office wanted him to do and he got heat from the boys as a result. Then Triple H maneuvered himself into getting that spot, and it was easy to do when your predecessor is made to look incompetent, despite just following orders. That's politics. Well Big Johnny almost causes the Undertaker to get hepatitis, which basically negates any small positives he had.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 15, 2013 10:10:51 GMT -5
Someone correct me but is this guy with no experience getting the same talent relations job as J.R. and John Laurinaitis? COME BACK, BIG JOHNNY!
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Nov 15, 2013 10:16:36 GMT -5
Just because a news article says the person hired has no experience does not automatically make it truth. I refuse to believe any major company would give someone a prominent position because they look executivey enough. The company chairman once challenged a creative team member to a highway drag race and tried to run him off the road and potentially kill him so he could "win". This is not a normal business ran by normal people.
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Post by cherry coloured funk on Nov 15, 2013 10:28:57 GMT -5
Guy's resume is very solid, and who's to say he hasn't been a lifelong fan of the business? (aside from this NEWZ piece which is hardly credible).
Large organizations often bring in people to high profile roles with little industry experience based on their credentials and transferable skills. Gives a fresh approach to things. Feels irresponsible to condemn this guy until we see what he can do.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 15, 2013 10:33:54 GMT -5
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHA Motherf***ing Vince and HHH giving promotions because the guy looks the part. I think the man literally runs his real company like it's a wrestling show. "Hunter, I think this guy needs a push." "...You mean a promotion?" "He's got the right look. He's ready for the main event." "You mean...big responsibilities?" "Yes, the pop the stockholders will give him the next meeting will blow the f***ing roof off the building!" "...I'm...sorry, Vince, what?" "Your old assistant is going to have to job to him. No way around it." "NO, WHAT?" That just makes me sad. If Vince runs WWE corporate like a wrestling show, then this guy is gonna get buried just like all the good looking wrestlers.
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 15, 2013 11:17:52 GMT -5
Just because a news article says the person hired has no experience does not automatically make it truth. It would fit an established pattern of job vacancies in WWE (and indeed TNA) never stipulating a working knowledge of wrestling as a requirement.
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Post by nickcave on Nov 15, 2013 14:29:14 GMT -5
I don't get that logic, when companies hire people don't they usually like them to at least have some knowledge of their product? You don't hire someone to write political articles for Rolling Stone if their main background knowledge is in television so why would you hire a human resources guy who has no knowledge of the product into a position where knowledge of the product is key...
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Post by Sparkybob on Nov 15, 2013 14:36:22 GMT -5
From an outsiders perspective, it seems the job of talent relations has changed drastically since HHH took over. Just from Total Divas, it seems all the VP does is relay the creative message to the workers. I think HHH and his crew do all the contract signings, booking stuff while this new VP will just handle human resource stuff. Like calming down talent and telling the talent what they will be doing on Raw etc.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Nov 15, 2013 14:44:22 GMT -5
The new guy has a lot of HR experience- look at his resume on LinkedIn. Seems okay for the job.
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Post by BigWill on Nov 15, 2013 15:00:36 GMT -5
More so than WWE's questionable job qualifications, I'm amazed that there are still people that have worked within the WWE for an extended amount of time, that aren't familiar with the product. You would think that even if it wasn't required of you, you would at least want to know more about the company that you're working for.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 15, 2013 15:26:23 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with giving someone who comes from a non-wrestling background a job in wrestling. What I do have a problem with is handing out a VERY important job to someone who apparently has little to no knowledge of wrestling. The issue being that person needs to learn the ropes before being given such a demanding position. So you think Doug Basham showing up in OVW was a shaved head was bad? Ooooh, I can't wait to see what this guy does if the report is correct. Maybe the job isn't as important as it used to be. It's possible that talent scouts like Regal and whoever's overseeing the day-to-day operations at the training center are reporting directly to Triple H. Maybe the new guy's main responsibility is to just make sure all the paperwork is in order. That doesn't require much wrestling knowledge. That is the way I have heard it explained by other sites. Triple H and his right hand person have all the duties and things that Ace had while the VP of Talent Relations is just in charge of paperwork and taking care of the small things that Hunter and now Geddes don't have time for.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 16:02:17 GMT -5
Why is it that I'm picturing Sean Clearly being like David Spade from that skit. *John Cena walks into the office while HHH is with someone.* Cena: "I'm here to see HHH." Clearly: "Right, and you are?" Cena: "John Cena...World Champion." Clearly: "Any that means what?" Cena: "This some kind of joke? I'm the guy who picture is everywhere." Clearly: "Yeah joking? I don't see anybody laughing, I don't pay to much attention to the pictures to be honest." Cena: "I'm the center piece of the WWE TV programs." Clearly: "I'm going to be honest, I don't watch much TV. But if you want you can take a seat right over there. I'm sure he be right with you." I think the funniest thing about the new regime is that the roster now has a boss that they likely have to refer to as "Triple H".
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Post by Lancers on Nov 15, 2013 17:29:09 GMT -5
The new guy has a lot of HR experience- look at his resume on LinkedIn. Seems okay for the job. AND an assistant basketball coach for several years. Clearly, Clearly knows a thing or two about traveling and turnovers.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Nov 15, 2013 17:46:22 GMT -5
The new guy has a lot of HR experience- look at his resume on LinkedIn. Seems okay for the job. AND an assistant basketball coach for several years. Clearly, Clearly knows a thing or two about traveling and turnovers. Regardless of if this guy does a good job, we can always respond with "clearly this is Clearly's doing!".
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Post by They Killed the Giggler on Nov 15, 2013 19:58:35 GMT -5
"Great idea, Mr.HHH!" "Brilliant strategy,Mr.HHH!" "Good call, Mr. HHH!"
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