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Post by RareTradU on Nov 30, 2013 16:07:22 GMT -5
www.jimmyhartfilm.comAnyone seen this yet? Looks pretty interesting. A shoot interview just about his music career. WrestlingDVDnews.com reports that he sings several of the songs he wrote; "All American Boys", "Rap is Crap", "Sexy Boy", and more.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 30, 2013 23:18:43 GMT -5
In a month he's going to be 70. SEVENTY. Can't even process that.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 1, 2013 1:42:33 GMT -5
It's too bad they never bothered to ask Jimmy if they could use this songs on the Mania Anthology.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 1, 2013 2:03:59 GMT -5
I've mentioned this several times over the years on these boards, but WWE really did him a disservice by not giving him credit for writing music for wrestling when they inducted him into their Hall of Fame. It was not mentioned in his video package. It was not mentioned by Jerry Lawler who inducted him. Jimmy thanked Shawn Michaels for continuing to use 'Sexy Boy.' This was the only acknowledgement that Jimmy had written any wrestling themes. Jimmy wrote some of the most memorable WWE and WCW themes of the 1980s and 1990s. This should have been mentioned as part of his legacy during the Hall of Fame.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Dec 1, 2013 8:55:40 GMT -5
All American Boys done as a ballad = brilliance!
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Post by Phil Parent on Dec 3, 2013 2:49:06 GMT -5
Did you know? All American Boys was originally called All American Girls, it was created for Shane Douglas and Douglas sang it.
Douglas sang versions of that song and the song that was to become the Young Stallions' to be used by him doing a rock n' roll star gimmick, complete with actual singles being released. However, he used neither because his father fell sick and he left WWE.
So Hart sang the Stallions song himself to be used by them; and the Rougeaus sang a new song to the tune of All-American Girls. They also added that high pitched ditty that starts the song and plays along with the chorus that approximates the Montreal Wrestling TV theme in the late 70's / early 80's before they started using Thriller. An easter egg of sorts. Needless to say, that and the French lyrics made it sure that they would never be booed in Montreal, which Vince didn't want anyway because he needed them to sell tickets.
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Post by Boo! on Dec 3, 2013 3:04:57 GMT -5
I've heard he was a bit of a kiss-ass and not popular with a lot of the boys. If anything got back to Vince about the road, it'd come through Hart more often than not because he was desperate to climb that greasy pole. Hence why he became Hulk Hogan's fourth leg (Beefer was third).
From a fan, I never got what he added. A great manager such as a Sheri Martel or a Bobby Heenan you really wanted them to get theirs. Hart always seemed an irrelevance to me. Nothing he ever said in promos antagonised as it was just one big high-pitched yelp. Like treading on the foot of a small dog. I think he's probably one of the most overrated managers of the time. I cannot think of a single thing he ever said in relation to any feud, match, storyline or event. I can remember "yah baby, we're gonna take you down baby, the big Earthquake baby!" but other than that - nothing.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Dec 3, 2013 4:10:34 GMT -5
I've heard he was a bit of a kiss-ass and not popular with a lot of the boys. If anything got back to Vince about the road, it'd come through Hart more often than not because he was desperate to climb that greasy pole. Hence why he became Hulk Hogan's fourth leg (Beefer was third). From a fan, I never got what he added. A great manager such as a Sheri Martel or a Bobby Heenan you really wanted them to get theirs. Hart always seemed an irrelevance to me. Nothing he ever said in promos antagonised as it was just one big high-pitched yelp. Like treading on the foot of a small dog. I think he's probably one of the most overrated managers of the time. I cannot think of a single thing he ever said in relation to any feud, match, storyline or event. I can remember "yah baby, we're gonna take you down baby, the big Earthquake baby!" but other than that - nothing. Jimmy at ringside with the megaphone was a heat magnet. Jimmy was great at playing the chickenpoop coward who hid behind the strong, tough guys. |
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Post by Boo! on Dec 3, 2013 4:16:22 GMT -5
I've heard he was a bit of a kiss-ass and not popular with a lot of the boys. If anything got back to Vince about the road, it'd come through Hart more often than not because he was desperate to climb that greasy pole. Hence why he became Hulk Hogan's fourth leg (Beefer was third). From a fan, I never got what he added. A great manager such as a Sheri Martel or a Bobby Heenan you really wanted them to get theirs. Hart always seemed an irrelevance to me. Nothing he ever said in promos antagonised as it was just one big high-pitched yelp. Like treading on the foot of a small dog. I think he's probably one of the most overrated managers of the time. I cannot think of a single thing he ever said in relation to any feud, match, storyline or event. I can remember "yah baby, we're gonna take you down baby, the big Earthquake baby!" but other than that - nothing. Jimmy at ringside with the megaphone was a heat magnet. Jimmy was great at playing the chickenpoop coward who hid behind the strong, tough guys. That may have worked for the live crowd but for the TV audience, which most people were, it was irrelevant. It was no louder than background noise. In terms of what a manager should do in terms of either selling their guy or selling an angle, I think he was very bad. At antagonising the live crowd he was probably good and though that ability isn't to be sniffed at, unless you were one of the 12,000 people in the arena, it didn't mean that much. He'd have been a better chickenshit heel if he actually spoke a good game but it'd be just high pitched yelping. Like the Ultimate Warrior of promos. He didn't really say anything but said everything in a certain way. "Yeah baby, the Natural Disasters baby, look out they're coming for you baby, they're going to get you, yeah baby, they're going to get you, the big Quake baby and Typhoon baby, they're coming for you LOD, baby, they're coming for you, baby" ....I don't really get what he did in that situation that anyone else couldn't. Genius had an arrogance about him that meant you want to see him get his. Heenan was...well, Heenan and you wanted to see him bashed up. Hart, was annoying but so is a mosquito you have no real interest in them other than just being irritated by them and even then its more the sound of his voice than what he said. I found Jamieson equally annoying for he exact same reasons. |
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Dec 3, 2013 16:07:50 GMT -5
Jimmy at ringside with the megaphone was a heat magnet. Jimmy was great at playing the chickenpoop coward who hid behind the strong, tough guys. That may have worked for the live crowd but for the TV audience, which most people were, it was irrelevant. It was no louder than background noise. In terms of what a manager should do in terms of either selling their guy or selling an angle, I think he was very bad. At antagonising the live crowd he was probably good and though that ability isn't to be sniffed at, unless you were one of the 12,000 people in the arena, it didn't mean that much. He'd have been a better chickenshit heel if he actually spoke a good game but it'd be just high pitched yelping. Like the Ultimate Warrior of promos. He didn't really say anything but said everything in a certain way. "Yeah baby, the Natural Disasters baby, look out they're coming for you baby, they're going to get you, yeah baby, they're going to get you, the big Quake baby and Typhoon baby, they're coming for you LOD, baby, they're coming for you, baby" ....I don't really get what he did in that situation that anyone else couldn't. Genius had an arrogance about him that meant you want to see him get his. Heenan was...well, Heenan and you wanted to see him bashed up. Hart, was annoying but so is a mosquito you have no real interest in them other than just being irritated by them and even then its more the sound of his voice than what he said. I found Jamieson equally annoying for he exact same reasons. Scroll to the 47 minute mark for a funny skit with the Hart Foundation, Danny Davis and Mean Gene. Jimmy had great timing and was a terrific talker who did more than just "yeah, Baby". He complemented the guys he was paired with rather than dominate them, which is what Heenan sometimes did ( according to Rick Rude). |
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Dec 3, 2013 16:12:44 GMT -5
Jimmy in Memphis pre-WWF showed a more Heenan-esque side than he did in the WWF. youtu.be/z8_8aRKnVpg |
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Post by Gopher Mod on Dec 4, 2013 19:36:21 GMT -5
.....oh my. I actually know the guy who produced this thing. John Andosca used to be a DJ at WXUT 88.3 (The University of Toledo's radio station) at about the same time I was at the station. He's a good guy, and apparently a pretty good piano player (though he should tone down the mics on the instruments).
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 4, 2013 19:43:17 GMT -5
Jimmy Hart is probably my all-time favorite coward manager, even moreso than Heenan or Heyman. Him managing Heath for one night was one of the funniest things they have done with Slater, and that's saying a lot. I wish he'd be back for that sort of thing more often.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 5, 2013 2:57:23 GMT -5
Most emotional version of All American Boys I've ever heard. Never thought I'd be saying that!
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