RIHT
Hank Scorpio
Wanted a title with "YOU'RE WELCOME!" Close enough.
Hey-yo.
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Post by RIHT on Dec 23, 2013 13:52:07 GMT -5
That the words "wrestler" and "wrestling" are taboo, despite them being used at least once a week. There was a time when they were, and WWE still prefers "superstars" and whatnot. Wrestlers, on the other hand, usually use the word more, like CM Punk or even John Cena in intense promos.
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Dec 23, 2013 13:57:12 GMT -5
How an you witness something that didn't happen? By being there at the time the event supposedly happened, and being witness to something that could disprove it. But that doesn't work. If something hasn't happened how do you know what time you're supposed to have been there to witness it not happen? You can confirm a rumour by being there to witness it, you cannot disprove a rumour if you haven't seen it as that's just saying "if I didn't see it, it probably didn't happen" which is silly. Lots of things happen without anyone, much less anyone here, being there to witness them happening. Moreover if you're witnessing something not happening how do you know what you're witnessing not take place? You would need to have some idea of what you're not witnessing to know you haven't witnessed it. If someone said to me that you and HHH kissed, unless they said "they kissed at 11.03 on Tuesday when you were in the room with them" - I can then confirm it didn't take place. But only because I was there to witness that it didn't happen. If they just said "they kissed" and didn't specify a time or place I'd have no idea if it happened or not only that it couldn't have happened during the time I was with you.
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JoDaNa1281
Crow T. Robot
Jackie Daytona, Regular Human Bartender. #BLM
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 23, 2013 13:58:00 GMT -5
That you can't see John Cena. You can actually see him quite well. I'm really not sure what they're talking about. He's just as visible as all the other wrestlers. I think it's true in some cases, I means there's been a few times where I've been watching that Cena disappeared for a couple seconds, only to suddenly appear again & I don't think I'm alone.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 23, 2013 14:00:15 GMT -5
Raven - great mind for the business. Really? Did I miss something? When did this become gospel to the point where whenever he's brought up, someone says "and he has a great mind for the business". From a fan's perspective of being in the business for years, apparently, they surmise that Raven must always be referred to as "guy who has a great mind" for the business. I've seen no proof of such thing, and a fantasy booker dvd doesn't change that. He did a pretty good job booking ECW before he departed for WCW, he was also hands on with the creation of the Flock, which was a very different type of stable for the time.
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BigWill
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 23, 2013 14:03:23 GMT -5
By being there at the time the event supposedly happened, and being witness to something that could disprove it. But that doesn't work. If something hasn't happened how do you know what time you're supposed to have been there to witness it not happen? You can confirm a rumour by being there to witness it, you cannot disprove a rumour if you haven't seen it as that's just saying "if I didn't see it, it probably didn't happen" which is silly. Lots of things happen without anyone, much less anyone here, being there to witness them happening. Moreover if you're witnessing something not happening how do you know what you're witnessing not take place? You would need to have some idea of what you're not witnessing to know you haven't witnessed it. If someone said to me that you and HHH kissed, unless they said "they kissed at 11.03 on Tuesday when you were in the room with them" - I can then confirm it didn't take place. But only because I was there to witness that it didn't happen. If they just said "they kissed" and didn't specify a time or place I'd have no idea if it happened or not only that it couldn't have happened during the time I was with you. Well it certainly depends on the rumor, but there are things you can confirm with 100% accuracy by actually being there.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Dec 23, 2013 14:07:42 GMT -5
-That story that Foley is always telling about that Terry Taylor was in line to get the Mr.Perfect gimmick, but they gave it to Hennig instead and saddled him with The Red Rooster is supposedly not true. The idea was made up for Hennig specifically. -The myth that Brie Bella never cashed in her Mistletoe on a Pole kiss, when she did do it a couple weeks later on Raw.
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The Ichi
Patti Mayonnaise
AGGRESSIVE Executive Janitor of the Third Floor Manager's Bathroom
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 23, 2013 14:17:03 GMT -5
Triple H isn't over, everyone hates him, he sucks, he's not one of the best of all time, etc. But he's not one of the best of all time, unless you make that a very big list of candidates.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 23, 2013 15:03:37 GMT -5
Triple H isn't over, everyone hates him, he sucks, he's not one of the best of all time, etc. But he's not one of the best of all time, unless you make that a very big list of candidates. he isn't even in the top 20, and I say that as a guy who loved his heel work about 14 years ago. he's the guy who wrestles the guy and even in that role there are a slew of guys who were better at it. the sad thing is, if WWE stopped pretending he was ever on Austin/Flair/Rock/Hogan's level he'd probably get a lot more props for how great he really was.
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Bad Moon
Unicron
for reasons known only to the goblins that live in my brain
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Post by Bad Moon on Dec 23, 2013 15:36:41 GMT -5
-That story that Foley is always telling about that Terry Taylor was in line to get the Mr.Perfect gimmick, but they gave it to Hennig instead and saddled him with The Red Rooster is supposedly not true. The idea was made up for Hennig specifically. Also didn't Hennig wrestle in other promotions as Mr. Perfect beforehand?
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BigJerichool222
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
THE BIG DOG!
#NotInMySalad
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Dec 23, 2013 15:39:16 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero wasn't winning the World Heavyweight Championship on the day he died, Randy Orton was.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 16:23:05 GMT -5
-The crowd actually boo'ed Hogan after he beat Yoko at WM IX and that the WWE edited in cheers.
That's the only one that I can think of that hasn't been covered already. I think Scott Keith was the one who really pushed that rumor. Heck, this thread could be full of Scott Keith rumors, half of which I used to believe.
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on Dec 23, 2013 16:36:44 GMT -5
That the E is a dictatorship and HHH is Hitler...Hitler,Hitler. *hides behind shield*
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 16:43:07 GMT -5
Kurt Angle actually LOVES black people
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Post by machomuta on Dec 23, 2013 18:56:21 GMT -5
-That story that Foley is always telling about that Terry Taylor was in line to get the Mr.Perfect gimmick, but they gave it to Hennig instead and saddled him with The Red Rooster is supposedly not true. The idea was made up for Hennig specifically. Also didn't Hennig wrestle in other promotions as Mr. Perfect beforehand? No. He was just Curt Hennig.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 23, 2013 19:14:33 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero wasn't winning the World Heavyweight Championship on the day he died, Randy Orton was. I've heard that too, and I guess one reason I believed that is because of this. Remember the WWE Fantasy game they had? I actually picked Eddie Guerrero that week, because I thought they were going to do the heel turn with Eddie that had been somewhat teased. It was going to be a 3 way match between Batista, who was apparently injured, Randy Orton and Eddie Guerrero. Eddie had since turned baby face and had been trying to convince Batista that he was really a baby face and not the bad guy he was before. He even started going back to his old entrance music, all that fun stuff. But, due to some subtleties in weeks prior, I was thinking Eddie was going to turn heel eventually and show his true colours. So, with the three way match announced, I thought, well they'll probably have Eddie win the belt, turn on Batista early and then when Batista comes back, he has an instant program with Eddie Guerrero. I think the big reason Orton isn't thought of as winning it is because A) It didn't make sense compared to Eddie going over and B) Orton didn't get the title from Batista anyway, Batista ended up having to vacate it. If Orton went over, would he feud with Eddie? Maybe, but if that's the case, then what about the prior weeks of building a potential Eddie heel turn? What did Batista have to come back to. Yeah, fighting Orton, but it would have been much better coming back to fight Eddie who stole his title from him, and you could even do a deal where he put him out of action. He lied, cheated and stole, he showed his true colours. That's probably where the myth comes from, the fact that it makes a lot more sense. One big myth is the Wrestlemania 3 attendance, which was around 78,000 according to the owner of the building. It is funny that in later years, they would actually break that record at Wembly Stadium, I think that's at least close to legit or maybe a bit lower, but I do believe it beat Wrestlemania 3. As far as Triple H is concerned, he really peaked in 2000 and was really strong till about 2002. I think the run with Evolution is what really soured people on him and it just wasn't the same Triple H as before. Then of course the rumours of him using his political power are what probably damaged his legacy to a lot of people, and it's tough. He really did earn his drawing power and was a draw for the company, but his stuff from 2003 onwards really didn't click, Raw was the inferior show compared to Smackdown and Trips was at the helm of that. The stuff with Booker T is probably where it really all went to shit for his reputation though, now because of that, nobody trusts him to do anything other then make Triple H look strong and he's become almost like Hulk Hogan in that sense.
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 23, 2013 19:19:15 GMT -5
"Wrestlemania 3 was attended by 93,000 people."
It was actually more like 78,000.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 23, 2013 20:22:48 GMT -5
Rob Van Dam and Jean Claude Van Damme are related. I've heard that one a lot.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 23, 2013 22:43:25 GMT -5
DX invading WCW events with a "tank" was -not- the turning point of the ratings war. The ratings war had effectively already turned by that point. It just helps HHH feel better at night. It really is crazy how they've played this up like it was some huge event. Yea, it wasn't anything special and was just another vehicle for them to make as many dick jokes with a cannon as they could.
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unc40
Dennis Stamp
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Post by unc40 on Dec 23, 2013 22:59:36 GMT -5
That Triple H was the mastermind behind the Montreal screwjob. I can't even began to tell you what is wrong with that.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 23, 2013 23:15:05 GMT -5
I know people like to de- emphasize Vince Russo's importance in the Attitude Era by saying that McMahon had to filter Russo's ideas, but the thing about their relationship that I think gets glossed over is that Mcmahon was out of touch with the times and out of ideas when he started really listening to guys like Russo and Ferrara. He wasn't this creative genius who figured that his product needed "ATTITUDE!!!" to beat WCW and directed his writers to infuse attitude into the product, he had to be convinced to try something new when he was getting his ass handed to him in the ratings. He needed Russo and Ferrara to come up with the creative scenarios and then he'd tweak it, but he couldn't come up with the ideas himself, although he often gets the credit for all the good ideas but none of the bad ideas.
As far as Triple H being one of the greatest to step in the ring, He is not as great as the company makes him out to be. He was never "The Man". When he was leader of DX, they were a higher midcard act, but not main event like when HBK was the leader. While he was eventually a main event player, he was still behind the Rock, Austin, Vince, Taker and maybe even Foley in the hierarchy. He's a great talent, but King of Kings he is not.
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