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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 9:53:26 GMT -5
Why would bryan turn just because he got some back up
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Post by DSR on Dec 31, 2013 9:56:11 GMT -5
Not even a psychobilly freakout?
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Post by Chip on Dec 31, 2013 9:57:17 GMT -5
OK so you don't want the Wyatts to be a big deal just yet but you also don't want Bray to play a secondary role to Bryan? You can't have both. The Shield work as hired guns because they're presented as three equals. But the Wyatt Family is clearly Bray Wyatt and his two henchmen. Putting him in a big storyline as someone else's hired muscle inversely marginalizes his "cult leader" persona. But taking the stable away from the big time drama and putting them in the midcard would allow Bray to continue looking like a "leader". Even if he's in a higher profile storyline, having to take marching orders from anyone makes him no different from his two lackeys. Bray is not going to be hired muscle to anyone, let alone Bryan. He showed yesterday that he can beat down and break Bryan when put in a situation advantageous to him, why would he ever follow anyone else's direction when he's dominated one of the top faces of the company. If anything it'll be Bryan taking orders from Bray.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 10:03:05 GMT -5
There's literally no reason to watch the WWE right now.
No. Reason.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Dec 31, 2013 10:11:30 GMT -5
I don't mind the idea. It will be more engaging watch Bryan go through the metamorphosis if they are gonna let him run with this turn.
Especially going into the rumble.
I'm not saying I'll wait and see because we know what happens there.
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Post by Captain2 on Dec 31, 2013 10:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by g1megatronfan on Dec 31, 2013 10:17:44 GMT -5
I just think it's incredibly stupid. I think the Wyatt's are boring as hell and it's just wasting Bryan when he should be doing bigger and better things. He should have never been put in this feud in the first place...never mind dragging it out. You can like the Wyatt's if you want but I haven't seen a damn thing from them that's impressed me yet.
They're kinda like a go nowhere stable to me. The Shield is a stable that's done things. The Wyatt's have done absolutely nothing noteworthy since their debut. This isn't going to help them any and it certainly isn't going to do anything for Bryan except kill some of the momentum he's had because now he's anchored down by this useless stable.
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Post by beamanhogan on Dec 31, 2013 10:18:20 GMT -5
People need to settle down. This is going to lead to Bryan winning the Rumble. Bray and the other family members will protect him during the Rumble. At some point, he is going to turn on them there and eliminate Bray for sure and possible the rest of them. This will allow for two things:
1) The Rumble being a showcase for the Wyatt family by having them eliminate a lot of people 2) A monster pop for Bryan when he turns on them.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 31, 2013 10:18:53 GMT -5
We know that this'll probably end with DB overcoming the metaphorical odds and rising above the Wyatts, but the journey will be interesting to see.
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Post by disaac614 on Dec 31, 2013 10:18:56 GMT -5
The more I look at this and read into this.... I think we didn't see a Bryan heel turn, but possibly the start of resistance to The Authority.
What is making me say this? Wyatt pointed out the authority as "The Machine" and he tweeted The following "Kingdoms Will Fall #DownWithTheMachine"
If you think you have the Wyatt Family pegged, We might not have all the answer. And I'm thinking his will be good but it's the WWE and the screw it up royally.
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Post by Reflecto on Dec 31, 2013 10:50:40 GMT -5
If you aren't happy about this (and from my name change, I'm not), the better ways to protest the changes:
1- The new Nielsen Twitter Ratings are bringing WWE back. Raw, SD, and T2T all made it into the top 10 last week- with Raw at number 1. If you dislike the move, The fans who hate the end of Raw this week agree- during Smackdown and next week's Raw, to Tweet during the show...but use hashtags of shows going OPPOSITE Raw/SD instead of #Raw or #Smackdown (so that the ratings bump for shows opposite Raw/SD and go down for WWE.)
2- The reason the Bryan turn was SO insidious was because it basically was WWE saying "Oh, you think you can change things? Give up. WE run the WWE, WE make the rules. You WILL like who WE SAY YOU WILL LIKE. If I say "Batista's the man- you will cheer him like he's your father.'You want Daniel Bryan? Tough- we don't want to give him to you. What are you marks gonna do? Open your own promotion? In your treehouse? And get all your little friends to come? Oooh, we're shaking in our boots."
With that in mind: On January 8, WWE has their press conference to announce the WWE Network. We KNOW THIS. We also know the tentative details already. We KNOW what they want, so- if you hated the Daniel Bryan "turn", then agree to take the $60 you WOULD HAVE spent to get WWE Network at startup, then turn around and spend that $60 on indy wrestling (both lowering WWE Network's startup cash AND giving an influx of money into alternatives to WWE.)
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Post by mrjl on Dec 31, 2013 10:52:55 GMT -5
I realize that - but what do you think WWE values more in the long run; a house show or Raw? They had the option to put anyone they wanted on those shows. Hell, they could have done Orton vs Bryan at the house show and had Cena main event Raw. But they didn't. TV time is more valuable than the house shows, and it's pretty telling to me that they trusted D-Bry to "take the place" of what's usually considered the top 2 guys in WWE. Methinks you underestimate how scheduled and planned ahead of time house shows are. It was not WWE deciding at the last second "f*** it, send Orton and Cena to Toronto for a house show, we want this night to be about Bryan". WWE's house shows are all "card subject to change" if they had no faith in Bryan they could have rearranged things with no problem
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Post by shaker on Dec 31, 2013 10:53:30 GMT -5
If you aren't happy about this (and from my name change, I'm not), the better ways to protest the changes: 1- The new Nielsen Twitter Ratings are bringing WWE back. Raw, SD, and T2T all made it into the top 10 last week- with Raw at number 1. If you dislike the move, The fans who hate the end of Raw this week agree- during Smackdown and next week's Raw, to Tweet during the show...but use hashtags of shows going OPPOSITE Raw/SD instead of #Raw or #Smackdown (so that the ratings bump for shows opposite Raw/SD and go down for WWE.) 2- The reason the Bryan turn was SO insidious was because it basically was WWE saying "Oh, you think you can change things? Give up. WE run the WWE, WE make the rules. You WILL like who WE SAY YOU WILL LIKE. If I say "Batista's the man- you will cheer him like he's your father.'You want Daniel Bryan? Tough- we don't want to give him to you. What are you marks gonna do? Open your own promotion? In your treehouse? And get all your little friends to come? Oooh, we're shaking in our boots." With that in mind: On January 8, WWE has their press conference to announce the WWE Network. We KNOW THIS. We also know the tentative details already. We KNOW what they want, so- if you hated the Daniel Bryan "turn", then agree to take the $60 you WOULD HAVE spent to get WWE Network at startup, then turn around and spend that $60 on indy wrestling (both lowering WWE Network's startup cash AND giving an influx of money into alternatives to WWE.) Good lord - give it a week. Daniel Bryan has done nothing heelish AT ALL. He hasn't even cut a "you people" promo yet!!!!! And yet you want to do some bizarre anti-WWE twitter campaign and try and kill the WWE Network. People - calm down.
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Post by mrjl on Dec 31, 2013 10:55:38 GMT -5
The Shield work as hired guns because they're presented as three equals. But the Wyatt Family is clearly Bray Wyatt and his two henchmen. Putting him in a big storyline as someone else's hired muscle inversely marginalizes his "cult leader" persona. But taking the stable away from the big time drama and putting them in the midcard would allow Bray to continue looking like a "leader". Even if he's in a higher profile storyline, having to take marching orders from anyone makes him no different from his two lackeys. Bray is not going to be hired muscle to anyone, let alone Bryan. He showed yesterday that he can beat down and break Bryan when put in a situation advantageous to him, why would he ever follow anyone else's direction when he's dominated one of the top faces of the company. If anything it'll be Bryan taking orders from Bray. He's talking about the Authority. When Wyatt said "The Devil made me do it," when he attacked Bryan most everyone heard "Triple H made me do it."
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 31, 2013 10:55:54 GMT -5
If you aren't happy about this (and from my name change, I'm not), the better ways to protest the changes: 1- The new Nielsen Twitter Ratings are bringing WWE back. Raw, SD, and T2T all made it into the top 10 last week- with Raw at number 1. If you dislike the move, The fans who hate the end of Raw this week agree- during Smackdown and next week's Raw, to Tweet during the show...but use hashtags of shows going OPPOSITE Raw/SD instead of #Raw or #Smackdown (so that the ratings bump for shows opposite Raw/SD and go down for WWE.) 2- The reason the Bryan turn was SO insidious was because it basically was WWE saying "Oh, you think you can change things? Give up. WE run the WWE, WE make the rules. You WILL like who WE SAY YOU WILL LIKE. If I say "Batista's the man- you will cheer him like he's your father.'You want Daniel Bryan? Tough- we don't want to give him to you. What are you marks gonna do? Open your own promotion? In your treehouse? And get all your little friends to come? Oooh, we're shaking in our boots." With that in mind: On January 8, WWE has their press conference to announce the WWE Network. We KNOW THIS. We also know the tentative details already. We KNOW what they want, so- if you hated the Daniel Bryan "turn", then agree to take the $60 you WOULD HAVE spent to get WWE Network at startup, then turn around and spend that $60 on indy wrestling (both lowering WWE Network's startup cash AND giving an influx of money into alternatives to WWE.) Good lord - give it a week. Daniel Bryan has done nothing heelish AT ALL. He hasn't even cut a "you people" promo yet!!!!! And yet you want to do some bizarre anti-WWE twitter campaign and try and kill the WWE Network. People - calm down. The only "heelish" thing he's done is basically apparently giving in to the psychotic backwoods cult trio, and even then we don't know if he truly means it or not or if it's part of something ulterior for DB in the long run (using the Wyatts to win the Rumble, destroying them from within, etc.).
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 31, 2013 10:56:38 GMT -5
The Wyatts + Daniel Bryan will rise up against the Authority
And lose.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 31, 2013 10:56:53 GMT -5
The Shield is a reason to still watch. All they do is have stellar matches.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Dec 31, 2013 11:04:06 GMT -5
I have no idea what planet you are living on where Kane/Lita was anything good, sorry. To be fair, it did give us that epic Edge/Lita wedding. And,of course, the magic that was Gene Snitsky. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Getting back to the topic at hand, I have no doubt that Bryan will do everything in his power to get something out of this angle. I think he's excellent at pulling on the audience's heartstrings and if the endgame is that he eventually turns on the Wyatts at a big moment, the payoff could be worth it. That, however, does not negate the fact that I wish they were going in a different direction.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2013 11:10:14 GMT -5
I don't mind the 'heel' turn (even though its clearly not a heel turn), I just don't see where this storyline can go. Bryan has already been feuding with the Wyatts for a couple of months and has faced every member on free TV and PPV. What's the point of watching when I've already seen every possible match they can have together?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 31, 2013 11:11:06 GMT -5
I just think it's incredibly stupid. I think the Wyatt's are boring as hell and it's just wasting Bryan when he should be doing bigger and better things. He should have never been put in this feud in the first place...never mind dragging it out. You can like the Wyatt's if you want but I haven't seen a damn thing from them that's impressed me yet. They're kinda like a go nowhere stable to me. The Shield is a stable that's done things. The Wyatt's have done absolutely nothing noteworthy since their debut. This isn't going to help them any and it certainly isn't going to do anything for Bryan except kill some of the momentum he's had because now he's anchored down by this useless stable. THE WYATTS HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING NOTEWORTHY except this big thing I'm talking about right now AND BRYAN SHOULD BE DOING MORE IMPORTANT THINGS instead of being in the show-closing segment presented as a huge deal and directly intended to get attention
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