Big stars on RAW, scrubs on SD

[Madagascar Fred]

seems as if WWE will now rely more than ever on big names and stars of the past, I guess til WM season is over. So why not go full circle and make RAW the show where the big (real) stars appear, and let the scrubs do their little midcard thingy no one cares about on Smackdown

RAW Roster would look like this:
HHH & Stephanie (top position of course)
The Rock (whenever/if he'll return)
John Cena
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Batista
Jeff Hardy
RVD
Chris Jericho
Mark Henry
Big Show
Big E Langston
Kane
Roman Reigns
Alberto Del Rio
Rey Mysterio
Great Khali
CM Punk (back to the midcard baby! nowhere near the real stars of course)
Dean Ambrose (see CM Punk)
Seth Rollins (see CM Punk)
Daniel Bryan (see CM Punk)
Wyatt Family (see CM Punk)

non-active folks in recurring roles:
Hulk Hogan
Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Mick Foley
Edge
Booker T


Smackdown roster:
Christian
Rhodes Brothers
Real Americans
The Usos
Damien Sandow
Miz
Kofi Kingston
Sin Cara
Tyson Kidd
Fandango
Justin Gabriel
Evan Bourne
Bad News Barrett
Ryback
Primetime Players
Curtis Axel
Brodus Clay
Los Matadores
Truth & Woods
Tensai
3MB
Santino
Zack Ryder
Curt Hawkins
JTG
Dolph Ziggler

["Magic" Mark Hurr]

So they are gonna recreate the Scrubs intro with the Backstage Doctor putting up the X-ray of whatever's wrestler is injured at the end of it.

Or the theme to scrubs over the smackdown intro ending with Cena doing a Cena wins lol picture for when it says "I'm no Superman."

[TheDieselTrain]

Id mark if TLC's song "Scrubs" was the SmackDown theme song.

[mrtuesday]

Dec 31, 2013 6:45:16 GMT -5 Madagascar Fred said:

seems as if WWE will now rely more than ever on big names and stars of the past, I guess til WM season is over. So why not go full circle and make RAW the show where the big (real) stars appear, and let the scrubs do their little midcard thingy no one cares about on Smackdown

Because that's not what Syfy is paying for. Syfy is paying for a WWE show that features some main event talent.

ECW had Angle, RVD, Big Show & Benoit for this reason. When ECW became all about ip-and-comers and mid-carders, Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

NXT was supposed to be about Main Eventers training up-and-comers. That lasted a few months before it was mid-carders and jobbers training. Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

Smackdown, is what Syfy is paying for. They get a few big names showing up for a segment or two. It's all about pleasing the network.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Dec 31, 2013 9:00:18 GMT -5 mrtuesday said:

Dec 31, 2013 6:45:16 GMT -5 Madagascar Fred said:

seems as if WWE will now rely more than ever on big names and stars of the past, I guess til WM season is over. So why not go full circle and make RAW the show where the big (real) stars appear, and let the scrubs do their little midcard thingy no one cares about on Smackdown

Because that's not what Syfy is paying for. Syfy is paying for a WWE show that features some main event talent.

ECW had Angle, RVD, Big Show & Benoit for this reason. When ECW became all about ip-and-comers and mid-carders, Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

NXT was supposed to be about Main Eventers training up-and-comers. That lasted a few months before it was mid-carders and jobbers training. Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

Smackdown, is what Syfy is paying for. They get a few big names showing up for a segment or two. It's all about pleasing the network.

WWE should start hyping those guys and making them matter. For every five fans that want to see John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan or The Miz, there should be at least three who wouldn't mind seeing Heath Slater, Zack Ryder, Tyson Kidd or Curt Hawkins.

Syfy wouldn't care if the show featured all midcarders if WWE themselves actually made people care about them.

Perhaps a compromise would involve featuring at least 1-2 main event talents to open/close the show every week. Say the show opens with MizTV featuring Alex Riley and closes with John Cena vs. JTG.

[________ has left the building]

That scrub, John Cena, was on Smackdown last week. And the aforementioned Smackdown scrubs also are on RAW and most don't even appear on Smackdown on a regularly basis. The people you called the upper tier make more appearances they done. Since we are entering Mania season and tv contracts are coming up, Smackdown will have the same cast of characters for both shows.

[Deleted]

Dec 31, 2013 9:00:18 GMT -5 mrtuesday said:

Because that's not what Syfy is paying for. Syfy is paying for a WWE show that features some main event talent.

ECW had Angle, RVD, Big Show & Benoit for this reason. When ECW became all about ip-and-comers and mid-carders, Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

NXT was supposed to be about Main Eventers training up-and-comers. That lasted a few months before it was mid-carders and jobbers training. Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

Smackdown, is what Syfy is paying for. They get a few big names showing up for a segment or two. It's all about pleasing the network.

Syfy didn't can ECW, WWE decided to replace it with NXT.


And Syfy dropped NXT to replace it with Smackdown

[rapidfire187]

Wtf @ Jeff Hardy?

[RIHT]

Dec 31, 2013 9:05:20 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Dec 31, 2013 9:00:18 GMT -5 mrtuesday said:

Because that's not what Syfy is paying for. Syfy is paying for a WWE show that features some main event talent.

ECW had Angle, RVD, Big Show & Benoit for this reason. When ECW became all about ip-and-comers and mid-carders, Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

NXT was supposed to be about Main Eventers training up-and-comers. That lasted a few months before it was mid-carders and jobbers training. Syfy canned it. It wasn't what they paid for.

Smackdown, is what Syfy is paying for. They get a few big names showing up for a segment or two. It's all about pleasing the network.

WWE should start hyping those guys and making them matter. For every five fans that want to see John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan or The Miz, there should be at least three who wouldn't mind seeing Heath Slater, Zack Ryder, Tyson Kidd or Curt Hawkins.

Syfy wouldn't care if the show featured all midcarders if WWE themselves actually made people care about them.

Perhaps a compromise would involve featuring at least 1-2 main event talents to open/close the show every week. Say the show opens with MizTV featuring Alex Riley and closes with John Cena vs. JTG.

That would be worse than just mid-carders on Smackdown. What would Alex Riley talk about on MizTV? His commentary? And if people think Cena beats decent talent too easily, imagine main events against JTG.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Dec 31, 2013 21:53:22 GMT -5 rapidfire187 said:

Wtf @ Jeff Hardy?

He may or may not have sent out a tweet saying he was returning at Rumble. I don't care enough to dig deeper into it. Sounds fake, though.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 1, 2014 1:31:20 GMT -5 RIHT said:

Dec 31, 2013 9:05:20 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

WWE should start hyping those guys and making them matter. For every five fans that want to see John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Daniel Bryan or The Miz, there should be at least three who wouldn't mind seeing Heath Slater, Zack Ryder, Tyson Kidd or Curt Hawkins.

Syfy wouldn't care if the show featured all midcarders if WWE themselves actually made people care about them.

Perhaps a compromise would involve featuring at least 1-2 main event talents to open/close the show every week. Say the show opens with MizTV featuring Alex Riley and closes with John Cena vs. JTG.

That would be worse than just mid-carders on Smackdown. What would Alex Riley talk about on MizTV? His commentary? And if people think Cena beats decent talent too easily, imagine main events against JTG.

SmackDown is only the B-show. Riley or any other guest on MizTV doesn't have to talk about anything. And yes, he and Miz can talk about commentary and make a friendly bet over who the superior one is (admittedly Miz) Riley and Miz can just shoot the shit for five minutes or so and crack jokes at each other until some random heel(s) like 3MB interrupt. Some wacky insults can be traded and then Vickie can make a tag match between Miz/Riley against 3MB,

What would be wrong with pitting John Cena against a lower carder? The little jimmies and casuals will tune in/buy a ticket to see John Cena no matter who he's wrestling, whether its JTG, or Randy Orton. And while Cena is just going to Cena-Up and win with the Five Moves of Doom anyway, he can still make another guy look good by bumping around for their offense for 5-10 minutes. The casuals who don't know any better will think, "Wow, he's actually beating up John Cena. He must be good."

WWE needs to take that short term hit for its long term future. The only way that these lesser talents will ever get over is if WWE actually treats them like they matter. You're basically saying that "These guys aren't over, they shouldn't even bother trying".

[RIHT]

Jan 1, 2014 2:06:00 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jan 1, 2014 1:31:20 GMT -5 RIHT said:

That would be worse than just mid-carders on Smackdown. What would Alex Riley talk about on MizTV? His commentary? And if people think Cena beats decent talent too easily, imagine main events against JTG.

SmackDown is only the B-show. Riley or any other guest on MizTV doesn't have to talk about anything. And yes, he and Miz can talk about commentary and make a friendly bet over who the superior one is (admittedly Miz) Riley and Miz can just shoot the shit for five minutes or so and crack jokes at each other until some random heel(s) like 3MB interrupt. Some wacky insults can be traded and then Vickie can make a tag match between Miz/Riley against 3MB,

What would be wrong with pitting John Cena against a lower carder? The little jimmies and casuals will tune in/buy a ticket to see John Cena no matter who he's wrestling, whether its JTG, or Randy Orton. And while Cena is just going to Cena-Up and win with the Five Moves of Doom anyway, he can still make another guy look good by bumping around for their offense for 5-10 minutes. The casuals who don't know any better will think, "Wow, he's actually beating up John Cena. He must be good."

WWE needs to take that short term hit for its long term future. The only way that these lesser talents will ever get over is if WWE actually treats them like they matter. You're basically saying that "These guys aren't over, they shouldn't even bother trying".

I agree with you here, I was just taking a shot at the example. Also, with that being said, WWE should ease into that sort of thing. Maybe have a smaller guy pick up wins, then challenge Cena in a grudge match or something and have a small feud with him before Cena's main feud at the time or something.

[RI Richmark]

Jan 1, 2014 2:06:00 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jan 1, 2014 1:31:20 GMT -5 RIHT said:

That would be worse than just mid-carders on Smackdown. What would Alex Riley talk about on MizTV? His commentary?

SmackDown is only the B-show. Riley or any other guest on MizTV doesn't have to talk about anything.

Now I have this image in my head of Miz and Riley just standing in the ring unable to make conversation.

[long pause]

Miz: So Riley....uh, what have you been up to.

Riley: Nothing much, doing some commentary.

Miz: Me too. Oh, and I'm fueding with Kofi again.

Riley: That's nice.

[another long pause]

Miz: Well...I guess I'll see you around.

Riley: Yeah...bye.

[segment ends]

[Tony Schiavontay]

Dec 31, 2013 7:53:50 GMT -5 TheDieselTrain said:

Id mark if TLC's song "Scrubs" was the SmackDown theme song.

No! Del Rio's a scrub
A scrub is a guy that can't no heat from me
Ever since he ditched his rides
For his aggressive side
He's failed to interest me

[Deleted]

Smackdown could benefit from being narrated by a quirky new wrestler named James Delano, who has no idea what he's in for as he enters the wide world of WWE.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 1, 2014 19:26:47 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Smackdown could benefit from being narrated by a quirky new wrestler named James Delano, who has no idea what he's in for as he enters the wide world of WWE.

I think Big E Langston has the voice to be the "narrator".

[Deleted]

If we get Scrubs on Smackdown, does this mean that Regal is Dr. Cox?

[chazraps]

So sick of the Smackdown roster hanging out the passenger side of their best friend's ride, trying to holler at me.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jan 1, 2014 19:37:32 GMT -5 @robertgbp said:

If we get Scrubs on Smackdown, does this mean that Regal is Dr. Cox?

I think Punk is Dr. Cox.