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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 1, 2014 13:23:19 GMT -5
As big as Lesnar's mystique is, Cena's arguably surpasses his. Plus I think Cena would have a much easier time working an exciting match with Taker while working around his nagging injuries.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 1, 2014 14:17:27 GMT -5
I'm not particularly interested in either one at this point... but at least Cena / Taker would be something new-ish. Lesnar and Taker aren't topping their Hell in a Cell match. Those same exact words were said about Taker-HBK before Mania 25. Just saying.
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Post by hossfan on Jan 1, 2014 14:24:09 GMT -5
Both would be big matches, but I think the "smart" fan would be more interested in Cena and Undertaker because there would be less certainty about the outcome than Brock and Taker.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 1, 2014 14:32:25 GMT -5
I think Cena-Taker is the way to go. Brock can either win the title and face the Rumble winner (hopefully Bryan) or he can face Batista. Punk can face Triple H. Orton gets whoever Brock doesn't fight--either Bryan or Batista.
Streak: Undertaker vs. John Cena WWE Tite: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Daniel Bryan Triple H vs. CM Punk Randy Orton vs. Batista (can make this some kind of Authority angle with Vince backing Batista and Stephanie backing Orton)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 14:33:16 GMT -5
I'm not particularly interested in either one at this point... but at least Cena / Taker would be something new-ish. Lesnar and Taker aren't topping their Hell in a Cell match. Those same exact words were said about Taker-HBK before Mania 25. Just saying. Well, I'll give you that. Granted, I do prefer their Cell match over the Mania 25 one but still, definitely not a match to scoff at.
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Post by angryfan on Jan 1, 2014 14:37:24 GMT -5
Brock would draw more money given his crossover appeal. Cena is the "safe" choice. I'd rather see anyone but them. Brock I don't think would have a great match, and Cena, while the match would be good, would just lead to either this year or next year breaking the streak and feeding it to Cena which I do not want.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 1, 2014 14:41:13 GMT -5
Brock would draw more money given his crossover appeal. Cena is the "safe" choice. I'd rather see anyone but them. Brock I don't think would have a great match, and Cena, while the match would be good, would just lead to either this year or next year breaking the streak and feeding it to Cena which I do not want. The fact that Cena could believably end the streak is why their match wouldn't be just "good", it would be AMAZING.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 1, 2014 14:41:59 GMT -5
As big as Lesnar's mystique is, Cena's arguably surpasses his. There's a difference though. Cena's mystique comes from the way he's been booked, where as Lesnar's comes from his presence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 14:43:06 GMT -5
I....just... Am I nuts in being completely uninterested in Lesnar vs. Batista?
I'm not saying it's going to be the shits because Brock always brings it and Batista is no slouch, but of all the matches in all the gin joints in all the world, they'll have Brock walk into WM against Batista? It seems like a waste.
Brock vs. DBD Cena vs. Taker Hunner vs. Punk
And that's my top three on the card, it sucks because I've got no idea what I'd want to see Batista in...why not just put him against Orton?
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 1, 2014 15:02:25 GMT -5
For anyone not wanting Cena vs. Taker because they're afraid that mopey Cena will simply get his win back at Wrestlemania 31, remember that Rock/Hogan II occurred at No Way Out 2003 (it helped that they were in Montreal, 'natch). WWE could easily do Cena/Taker II at Extreme Rules or Summerslam and give Cena his win back if the Undertaker were to beat him at Wrestlemania.
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Post by angryfan on Jan 1, 2014 15:11:34 GMT -5
Brock would draw more money given his crossover appeal. Cena is the "safe" choice. I'd rather see anyone but them. Brock I don't think would have a great match, and Cena, while the match would be good, would just lead to either this year or next year breaking the streak and feeding it to Cena which I do not want. The fact that Cena could believably end the streak is why their match wouldn't be just "good", it would be AMAZING. I don't hate the idea because it's believable that Cena could beat Taker. I hate it because history of Cena vs. Special Attraction is, Cena MUST win in the end, so he would break the streak on the second try at the latest. I don't want to see the streak fed to someone who is the epitome of not needing it. If they could do a one and done, "I just had to know" deal like with Shawn/Taker, then fine, but since Cena's not on his way out he will have to beat Taker.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 1, 2014 15:19:00 GMT -5
Cena/Taker II's likeyhood depends on how big the buyrate on the first one would be, combined with Taker's health and how satisfied both guys were with the first streak encounter. If you want to believe Cena's alleged regret over his lobbying during Summerslam 2010 (I don't necessarily, but it was thrown out there), him allegedly wanting a return win might not play a factor. Especially since he seems to hold Taker in slightly higher regard than Rock by most accounts.
I'm sure he's quite protective of his spot and stature, I just also think UT may hold equal sway.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 1, 2014 15:20:18 GMT -5
The fact that Cena could believably end the streak is why their match wouldn't be just "good", it would be AMAZING. I don't hate the idea because it's believable that Cena could beat Taker. I hate it because history of Cena vs. Special Attraction is, Cena MUST win in the end, so he would break the streak on the second try at the latest. I don't want to see the streak fed to someone who is the epitome of not needing it. If they could do a one and done, "I just had to know" deal like with Shawn/Taker, then fine, but since Cena's not on his way out he will have to beat Taker. No he wouldn't necessarily have to beat Taker. The Streak is different than the other Special Attraction vs. Cena matches because those guys didn't depend on them winning. But the fact that he MIGHT beat it is what will make it great.
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Post by Lila on Jan 1, 2014 15:23:54 GMT -5
Brock vs Taker, ALWAYS.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 15:30:49 GMT -5
Cena/Taker, the match, would be great. The build-up would be horrible. Serious Cena promos about how there's only one thing left for him to do in this business, brother. Taker probably saying like 3 words. Lots of staring/Mania sign pointing. It would be so bland and by numbers.
With Lesnar, it would also be somewhat bland and by numbers, but at least it would have a heel-face dynamic, Paul Heyman promos, Brock Lesnar generally being destructive and awesome, there's just more going for it.
I say neither though. I want Taker vs. Wyatt, with a good over the top storyline leading up to it. Fire, lightning bolts, druids, teleporting, go crazy with it. The Streak isn't ending, so I don't care about them having Taker wrestle someone who could "possibly beat the Streak", becuase no one can.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 1, 2014 15:32:33 GMT -5
Count me in as one of the three who voted 'neither'.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 1, 2014 15:34:59 GMT -5
Taker and Brock was done a lot, and brilliantly. It doesn't need revisiting. Plus Brock isn't protected like Cena because he just oozes violence naturally.
Cena has been losing a lot lately though. Even last year this would be a hotter match, but if Cena will job to Bryan clean and even Triple H will job to Taker twice, I don't see that either man has a shot. Cena would be the moneymaker match though. It'd be a waste of Brock to have him in a reused feud while Taker and Cena had a much smaller scale rivalry.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 1, 2014 15:35:10 GMT -5
Taker and Brock was done a lot, and brilliantly. It doesn't need revisiting. Plus Brock isn't protected like Cena because he just oozes violence naturally.
Cena has been losing a lot lately though. Even last year this would be a hotter match, but if Cena will job to Bryan clean and even Triple H will job to Taker twice, I don't see that either man has a shot. Cena would be the moneymaker match though. It'd be a waste of Brock to have him in a reused feud while Taker and Cena had a much smaller scale rivalry.
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Post by eJm on Jan 1, 2014 17:56:22 GMT -5
If Cena/Taker doesn't happen at WrestleMania 30, WWE hates money.
Yes, I have said that tonnes of times. Because it's true.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 1, 2014 20:05:42 GMT -5
I....just... Am I nuts in being completely uninterested in Lesnar vs. Batista? I'm not saying it's going to be the shits because Brock always brings it and Batista is no slouch, but of all the matches in all the gin joints in all the world, they'll have Brock walk into WM against Batista? It seems like a waste. Brock vs. DBD Cena vs. Taker Hunner vs. Punk And that's my top three on the card, it sucks because I've got no idea what I'd want to see Batista in...why not just put him against Orton? No. You're not nuts A decade ago, I really DID dream of Lesnar vs. Batista. But it's hard to see that match now. Batista, as a big guy in his own right, can't really be sold as an "underdog" the same way that Punk and Cena were. But with Brock's UFC background, Batista would look like a joke if they tried to make him look like Lesnar's "equal".
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