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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 21, 2014 9:41:55 GMT -5
Man, he's gone. I have no idea why people think it's a work. When has a wrestling company done that? Let a guy go, let him work another program's television shows and had him secretly under contract the whole time? He worked an indie show over the weekend and cut a "guys it's totally real and not a work" promo. Call me silly, but he probably would not have cut a promo like that if he wasn't just working these shows as part of the TNA storyline. The new investor shows up and will rehire AJ much to Dixie's displeasure and we'll be right back where we started.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 21, 2014 13:42:06 GMT -5
Man, he's gone. I have no idea why people think it's a work. When has a wrestling company done that? Let a guy go, let him work another program's television shows and had him secretly under contract the whole time? He worked an indie show over the weekend and cut a "guys it's totally real and not a work" promo. Call me silly, but he probably would not have cut a promo like that if he wasn't just working these shows as part of the TNA storyline. The new investor shows up and will rehire AJ much to Dixie's displeasure and we'll be right back where we started. Styles said his comments on the PWX show because he probably got tired of people constantly asking him "When are you going back to TNA?" or "Is this a work?". Not every thing is a work in wrestling. I remember people thinking Daniels was fired to further the Immortal storyline when nothing came from it because he was got shit canned for real. Did DOC come back to fight Aces and Eight like people thought he would? Nope. I advise not holding your breath waiting for Styles to return.
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Post by king1836 on Jan 21, 2014 13:45:16 GMT -5
He worked an indie show over the weekend and cut a "guys it's totally real and not a work" promo. Call me silly, but he probably would not have cut a promo like that if he wasn't just working these shows as part of the TNA storyline. The new investor shows up and will rehire AJ much to Dixie's displeasure and we'll be right back where we started. Styles said his comments on the PWX show because he probably got tired of people constantly asking him "When are you going back to TNA?" or "Is this a work?". Not every thing is a work in wrestling. I remember people thinking Daniels was fired to further the Immortal storyline when nothing came from it because he was got shit canned for real. Did DOC come back to fight Aces and Eight like people thought he would? Nope. I advise not holding your breath waiting for Styles to return. I respectfully hope you're wrong, sir.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 21, 2014 14:25:04 GMT -5
He worked an indie show over the weekend and cut a "guys it's totally real and not a work" promo. Call me silly, but he probably would not have cut a promo like that if he wasn't just working these shows as part of the TNA storyline. The new investor shows up and will rehire AJ much to Dixie's displeasure and we'll be right back where we started. Styles said his comments on the PWX show because he probably got tired of people constantly asking him "When are you going back to TNA?" or "Is this a work?". Not every thing is a work in wrestling. I remember people thinking Daniels was fired to further the Immortal storyline when nothing came from it because he was got shit canned for real. Did DOC come back to fight Aces and Eight like people thought he would? Nope. I advise not holding your breath waiting for Styles to return. Hahaha you're comparing Festus to the guy who has been pretty much the face of TNA since the company began. While you might have a point with Daniels, he's never been multi time TNA Champ. If they were willing to have him defend the title outside the company, what makes you think he wouldn't be working everyone with this? Him specifically saying he works for the fans and not Dixie Carter during some random indie fed promo is a little too convenient.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 21, 2014 14:54:12 GMT -5
If it is a work, what's the benefit?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 21, 2014 15:19:46 GMT -5
Styles said his comments on the PWX show because he probably got tired of people constantly asking him "When are you going back to TNA?" or "Is this a work?". Not every thing is a work in wrestling. I remember people thinking Daniels was fired to further the Immortal storyline when nothing came from it because he was got shit canned for real. Did DOC come back to fight Aces and Eight like people thought he would? Nope. I advise not holding your breath waiting for Styles to return. Hahaha you're comparing Festus to the guy who has been pretty much the face of TNA since the company began. While you might have a point with Daniels, he's never been multi time TNA Champ. If they were willing to have him defend the title outside the company, what makes you think he wouldn't be working everyone with this? Him specifically saying he works for the fans and not Dixie Carter during some random indie fed promo is a little too convenient. The promotions Styles defended the title in had working agreements with TNA. Styles fought against Judas Mesias, former TNA alumni, and Sanada, a guy Double J was keen on. PWX doesn't have a working arrangement with them. Neither does , ROH, CZW, Anarchy in Georgia, and the other places AJ has wrestled in since his TNA contract ended. Styles said similar things in the different shows he been doing since he left TNA. I know people want to say they Styles will be back soon and this is all a big work but as I said, nothing everything is a work. I gave hope of Jay Lethal returning back to TNA. Same for Alex Shelley.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 21, 2014 15:21:00 GMT -5
If it is a work, what's the benefit? That's the million dollar question.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 15:35:08 GMT -5
If it is a work, what's the benefit? Long-term? I can't think of anything. But oh...think of DAT POP when AJ's music hits and he runs down to the ring to do whatever there is they're going to have him do. That wouldn't amount to much but yeah, DAT POP.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 21, 2014 15:47:37 GMT -5
If it is a work, what's the benefit? It's TNA, do they need one?
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Post by eJm on Jan 21, 2014 16:34:53 GMT -5
I would have thought the shoot video would have sealed the deal on this not being a work.
This is a man who for the entire history of the company has been loyal and done literally everything that he was asked. From fighting Elvises to being a side figure in the hundreds of big stables to even being accused of having an affair with friggin' Olive Oil from the Popeye ride at Universal Studios.
For all of this, for never saying ANYTHING bad and for never taking offers from WWE when they came earlier in his career, they ask him to take a major payout because the company overspent on badly executed ideas and talent that never showed an inch of the amount of loyalty AJ did.
If this was a work, his comments would have been on TNA's YouTube channel and wouldn't be anywhere near as harsh.
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Post by vivix on Jan 21, 2014 16:45:50 GMT -5
AJ wanted more money than he's worth. No development as a performer leads me to think he's unnecessary.
If he comes back he'll be back to spinning his wheels. Personally I see him as Jerry Lynn, not WWE material for a main event push and too old for the current product so he works the indies and makes cash while he can till he can't and retires. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by velvetsthong on Jan 21, 2014 17:00:38 GMT -5
AJ Styles = no big loss. Face facts people. This If AJ was as great and awesome as people say he would be in WWE or TNA.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 21, 2014 18:33:09 GMT -5
AJ could come back to TNA with huge fan fare, be pushed to the moon, win a Dan Severn amount of belts all at once and he'll still be overshadowed by the female wrestler of the same first name. And I don't mean just at this time, I mean in all of wrestling history. Maybe it's partly due to TNA but it's also partly due to AJ Styles. AJ Lee may have been given a push but she maintained being over on her own.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 21, 2014 18:38:14 GMT -5
Man, he's gone. I have no idea why people think it's a work. When has a wrestling company done that? Let a guy go, let him work another program's television shows and had him secretly under contract the whole time? Agreed. AJ is done. Why WOULD he come back? He can make his own schedule now while still supporting his family. AJ saw a sinking ship and got off on a lifeboat while he still could.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 21, 2014 18:40:03 GMT -5
AJ Styles = no big loss. Face facts people. This If AJ was as great and awesome as people say he would be in WWE or TNA. TNA? You mean, the company that he was in from day 1? The company that he left of his own free will? ...Yeah alright. AJ ain't all that because he didn't want to take a paycut.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 21, 2014 20:14:10 GMT -5
Man, he's gone. I have no idea why people think it's a work. When has a wrestling company done that? Let a guy go, let him work another program's television shows and had him secretly under contract the whole time? Agreed. AJ is done. Why WOULD he come back? He can make his own schedule now while still supporting his family. AJ saw a sinking ship and got off on a lifeboat while he still could. Loyalty. The same reason why Sting never left WCW and keeps re-signing with TNA.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 21, 2014 20:17:11 GMT -5
Agreed. AJ is done. Why WOULD he come back? He can make his own schedule now while still supporting his family. AJ saw a sinking ship and got off on a lifeboat while he still could. Loyalty. The same reason why Sting never left WCW and keeps re-signing with TNA. But he could have re-signed if he really wanted to. TNA wanted him, that much is clear. He just would have to take a paycut to stay with them. He wasn't willing to do that so he can't be that loyal to the brand. Honestly, it just sounds to me like he was fed up with the bullshit and them not being able to meet his contract demands was the final straw. I could be completely wrong and he'll back on TNA TV in like 3 months but I really do think he's done.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jan 21, 2014 20:27:08 GMT -5
There is loyalty and there is stupidity. Taking a 60% pay cut as was reported because the company you've been loyal to for a decade spent foolishly and now wants to punish you for it, is the latter, not the former. AJ won't be the last to go, loyalty breeds loyalty and to blame the people leaving for not showing loyalty to a company that hasn't shown it to you them is stupidity.
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Post by eJm on Jan 21, 2014 20:34:52 GMT -5
There is loyalty and there is stupidity. Taking a 60% pay cut as was reported because the company you've been loyal to for a decade spent foolishly and now wants to punish you for it, is the latter, not the former. AJ won't be the last to go, loyalty breeds loyalty and to blame the people leaving for not showing loyalty to a company that hasn't shown it to you them is stupidity. I will also add to this that, if you were in AJ's position and had a family to support, I don't think your wife and kids would be too happy about a 60% reduction in what their husband/father is providing because he's obsessively loyal to his brand. Agreed. AJ is done. Why WOULD he come back? He can make his own schedule now while still supporting his family. AJ saw a sinking ship and got off on a lifeboat while he still could. Loyalty. The same reason why Sting never left WCW and keeps re-signing with TNA. Sting has his wages paid by Spike. Of course, that is not 100% of why he keeps re-signing but AJ didn't have that luxury.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 21, 2014 20:42:44 GMT -5
There is loyalty and there is stupidity. Taking a 60% pay cut as was reported because the company you've been loyal to for a decade spent foolishly and now wants to punish you for it, is the latter, not the former. AJ won't be the last to go, loyalty breeds loyalty and to blame the people leaving for not showing loyalty to a company that hasn't shown it to you them is stupidity. I will also add to this that, if you were in AJ's position and had a family to support, I don't think your wife and kids would be too happy about a 60% reduction in what their husband/father is providing because he's obsessively loyal to his brand. Loyalty. The same reason why Sting never left WCW and keeps re-signing with TNA. Sting has his wages paid by Spike. Of course, that is not 100% of why he keeps re-signing but AJ didn't have that luxury. Sting would more than likely have made more by going to the WWE without doing as many dates. Not to mention the additional merchandising pay he would get from the figures and DVDs.
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