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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 15, 2014 20:53:20 GMT -5
If this was a big concern, WWE would make him stop doing it. Or at the very least tell him to change it to a big splash or something. .... stop being under 6 ft tall?? Stop doing the flying headbutt. Idk what his height has to do with anything.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Feb 15, 2014 20:57:06 GMT -5
.... stop being under 6 ft tall?? Stop doing the flying headbutt. Idk what his height has to do with anything. You must have missed that thread.
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Post by Starshine on Feb 15, 2014 21:11:24 GMT -5
I too have a problem with it. These forums are never fun when people are happy. Ever. Schadenfreude FTW!
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Post by saintpat on Feb 15, 2014 21:17:31 GMT -5
and I'd enjoy seeing all those matches. But as long term feuds with personal stakes and hatred and all that stuff, it just fills me with an intense burning indifference There really isn't a reason for Bryan's character to have those kinds of feuds. But a bunch of assorted names on all levels of the card could easily be monthly title defenses for Bryan under the much bigger Authority storyline. Bryan and HHH/Steph could rehash their angle with the Authority throwing obstacles at Bryan to take the title from him. Heels on all levels of the card could be used as HHH's handpicked opponents. They could rehash the reluctant face thing by having the Authority put a face from any level on the card under their thumb to and forcing him to wrestle Bryan; Hell, you could even work some kind of meta angle where the Authority is supposedly making a face wrestle Bryan on purpose with the explicit intention of killing their goodwill with the fans. This is the only thing I can see working. I mean, Bryan winning the title isn't the end, it's really the beginning of Phase II of the Bryan vs. Authority angle. HHH and Steph draft the willing and the unwilling to remove the DBD pimple from the Face of the WWE ... Orton, then Batista, perhaps Brock, an unwilling Cena, etc. To me this works best if Bryan first beats HHH at WM30 to earn his title shot, then wins the title at the next PPV -- that makes complete sense to me but I don't know if the Smark Era would stand for it. Then after Bryan has held on through all that the Authority can throw at him, he beats HHH again in a stipulation match where Trips has to step down from his (on-screen) role as COO if he loses... with Bryan going over and finally ending the Authority angle. After that maybe have Bray or Ambrose or Roman win the title. All that being said, I have a feeling he is going to be much more over chasing the gold than he will be if he wins it. Sort of like "everybody" wanted Punk to have a long run with the title and got it, but it wasn't as satisfying to people when they got what they said they wanted.
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Post by Piccolo on Feb 15, 2014 21:23:31 GMT -5
Just because Bryan doesn't yet have a rich history as champion that can be drawn upon for possible feuds doesn't mean feuds can't be written. Every champion who has a history of championship feuds, at one time, did not have a history of championship feuds. Championship feuds are written as championship feuds are executed. Then they become the history of the champion, rolling into future championship feuds.
Bryan, in this respect, is like every new champion. I see no unique difficulties with him that would make writing of championship feuds impossible.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 15, 2014 21:25:44 GMT -5
You know, I was never particularity interested in a John Cena/CM Punk feud before 2011.
The point I'm trying to make is that you never truly know what feud could be amazing.
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Post by Snowman on Feb 16, 2014 6:20:45 GMT -5
Had they not killed him deader than Dolph Ziggler, I'd say #BadNewsBarragh would've been a good guy they'd have to have a feud with D. Bryan Danielson. The problem is it only works really well in my mind because in my mind I already booked D. Bryan Danielson getting a title shot against Brock Lesnar at WM XXX. DBD was the 31st entrant in the Rumble after Wade engages in epic Royal Rumble trolling by being the "final" entrant. Wade goes on a campaign to be #1 contender and there's really no way I couldn't imagine that being pretty personal, because now it's about more than winning the title or any of that vague "face of the company" shit, it's about winning it from Bryan. Barrett's got issues with DBD that should go all the way back to when he turned on the Nexus...but that's never gonna happen. It's a shame though, as I'd totally mark out at Barrett using the gavel as a weapon sometimes. Why do you keep calling him D. Bryan Danielson?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 9:42:07 GMT -5
Batista, have him act all happy for Bryan and slowly let him transform into HeelTista claiming that Bryan would have never cut it back when he was champ.
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Post by RIHT on Feb 16, 2014 12:57:17 GMT -5
I'd like to see Bryan feud with Ryback (if they built him up again), Brock Lesnar, Dean Ambrose or Roman Reigns getting a title shot/Shield, Mark Henry (as a heel), a returning heel Chris Jericho, Antonio Cesaro, a rematch with Cena, etc.
Really, the best opponent for Daniel Bryan the champion is someone bigger than him or just pure evil. He can wrestle a good match with essentially anyone.
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Post by Bootista on Feb 16, 2014 12:59:05 GMT -5
Heel Batista, Lesnar, Shield, Cesaro, all kinds of possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 13:06:31 GMT -5
Why do you keep calling him D. Bryan Danielson? Because according to WWE his name is Daniel Bryan. Bryan Danielson. Daniel Bryan. "Daniel" Bryan Danielson. D. Bryan Danielson. Basically because I want to and people know who I'm talking about regardless.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 13:12:07 GMT -5
DAHNIEL BROYAN!!! You've finally regained the WWE World Heavyweight Championship and have gotten your happy ending of proving you belong at the top of the mountain...but I'm afraid I have some BAD NEWS... *Otunga, Gabriel, Young, Slater, and Ryback suddenly surround the ring* *Curtis Axel, Alex Riley, Bray Wyatt, Lo-Ki, Percy Watson, Titus O'Neil, Lucky Cannon, and Eli Cottonwood suddenly surround them....then A-Ry attacks Lo-Ki for some reason*
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 16, 2014 13:18:23 GMT -5
Rollins can be that guy. Their feud dates back to ROH, and they've been fighting each other for years and years. Draw that line in and explain how well they know each other...boom, problem solved.
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Post by salsashark on Feb 16, 2014 13:59:50 GMT -5
Cesaro, Cena, heel Batista, a returning Punk, returning Jericho, Lesnar, any solo member of the Shield, Wyatt. Dude has years of possible opponents. I'm not denying that. I'm not even saying he'd have problems getting most people into it. I'm just saying that for me, I can't imagine developing any interest in the feuds outside of them being good matches. People wanted Hogan to take out Andre for his betraying Hogan. Same with Savage. They wanted Quake to pay for putting Hogan out. People were out for the Flair and the Four Horsemen's blood. And they wanted WCW guys to take out the nWo. There's no prospective feuds that fill me with that kind of passion All of those great feuds were invented. There was a time when no one would have said, 'I want to see WCW versus nWo!' because the nWo did not exist. There was a time when no one knew Hogan and Earthquake would have beef. Give the guy a chance. His feuds would at least be something fresh compared to Orton or Cena who have had major feuds/matches with the same people (Edge, Big Show, Triple H, The Miz, CM Punk, Batista, Wade Barrett, etc., not to mention each other) over and over and over and over and over again. I bet if you wanted to book current Great Khali into a compelling angle, you could do it if you had a great idea in mind. It's all in the booking.
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Post by mrjl on Feb 16, 2014 14:08:38 GMT -5
I'm not denying that. I'm not even saying he'd have problems getting most people into it. I'm just saying that for me, I can't imagine developing any interest in the feuds outside of them being good matches. People wanted Hogan to take out Andre for his betraying Hogan. Same with Savage. They wanted Quake to pay for putting Hogan out. People were out for the Flair and the Four Horsemen's blood. And they wanted WCW guys to take out the nWo. There's no prospective feuds that fill me with that kind of passion All of those great feuds were invented. There was a time when no one would have said, 'I want to see WCW versus nWo!' because the nWo did not exist. There was a time when no one knew Hogan and Earthquake would have beef. Give the guy a chance. His feuds would at least be something fresh compared to Orton or Cena who have had major feuds/matches with the same people (Edge, Big Show, Triple H, The Miz, CM Punk, Batista, Wade Barrett, etc., not to mention each other) over and over and over and over and over again. I bet if you wanted to book current Great Khali into a compelling angle, you could do it if you had a great idea in mind. It's all in the booking. People didn't want to see WCW vs nWo, but hadn't people been calling for a real program of Hogan vs Sting? In the old observer thread there's a mention of Hogan vs Andre years before Wrestlemania 3 Some feuds are natural. With Bryan I think any match could be natural, but any feud would very forced
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Post by CM Dazz on Feb 16, 2014 14:10:47 GMT -5
Couldn't he feud with Cesaro? That would be a fresh matchup. Cesaro was the first name that popped in my head. Would be a great feud all the way around, IMO.
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Feb 16, 2014 14:20:38 GMT -5
All of those great feuds were invented. There was a time when no one would have said, 'I want to see WCW versus nWo!' because the nWo did not exist. There was a time when no one knew Hogan and Earthquake would have beef. Give the guy a chance. His feuds would at least be something fresh compared to Orton or Cena who have had major feuds/matches with the same people (Edge, Big Show, Triple H, The Miz, CM Punk, Batista, Wade Barrett, etc., not to mention each other) over and over and over and over and over again. I bet if you wanted to book current Great Khali into a compelling angle, you could do it if you had a great idea in mind. It's all in the booking. People didn't want to see WCW vs nWo, but hadn't people been calling for a real program of Hogan vs Sting? In the old observer thread there's a mention of Hogan vs Andre years before Wrestlemania 3 Some feuds are natural. With Bryan I think any match could be natural, but any feud would very forced I think a feud with a heel Batista would be natural enough, with them being so different personality wise and Batista claiming that Bryan stole the spotlight he feels he deserves. Then there's unfinished business with Wyatt. Those two alone could keep you going for a few months at least.
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Post by king1836 on Feb 16, 2014 14:22:34 GMT -5
Let's not forget John Cena.
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Post by Catchphrase! on Feb 16, 2014 16:46:24 GMT -5
There's no one I want to see him feud with. Which is TOTALLY a concern of mine. I know the Internet is regarded as refuge to the insecure fan, that child who has yet to learn the act of accepting the viewpoint of some contrarian, but, to be perfectly honest, I can't claim membership. I, personally, couldn't care less about the personal taste of someone I don't know, least of all an individual who equates an innocent man to a murderer. Turn Batista heel, and you have a new feud right there. You could even reference their past match on Raw, back when Bryan was still a rookie.Not to mention, Batista apparently made some unflattering comments about Bryan's World Heavyweight Title win.
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Post by mrjl on Feb 16, 2014 16:56:53 GMT -5
There's no one I want to see him feud with. Which is TOTALLY a concern of mine. I know the Internet is regarded as refuge to the insecure fan, that child who has yet to learn the act of accepting the viewpoint of some contrarian, but, to be perfectly honest, I can't claim membership. I, personally, couldn't care less about the personal taste of someone I don't know, least of all an individual who equates an innocent man to a murderer. Turn Batista heel, and you have a new feud right there. You could even reference their past match on Raw, back when Bryan was still a rookie.Not to mention, Batista apparently made some unflattering comments about Bryan's World Heavyweight Title win. So having a bit of concern about public perception is equating him to a murderer. I was concerned others might. Especially since I know some people already do. And of course if my opinion is of no concern to you, why bother to reply? And no one seems to get that I'm not saying "There's no possibilities for getting him in an intensely personal feuds," I'm saying "I think actually trying to get him in an intense rivalry, the way wrestling tends to with their champs, instead of just matches may actually make him less interesting."
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