BigJerichool222
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Feb 23, 2014 15:17:32 GMT -5
Who knew that a filler show like Elimination Chamber would have so much riding on it? Like, I'm not even one of those PUSH DANIEL BRYAN TO THE MAIN EVENT OR ELSE people and yet even I can see that the outcomes of tonight and tomorrow night will have long term effects (albeit mostly minor) if they actually go though with Orton/Batista.
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Post by Chip on Feb 23, 2014 15:20:43 GMT -5
There's so much potential for massive amounts of change in the next two days that it's hard to not get somewhat excited, granted there's still the chance absolutely nothing changes but I think they will try their hardest to have a reason for tomorrows crowd to be excited and cheering...... well, past Hogan.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:21:04 GMT -5
I haven't seen much of WWE since Royal Rumble, and I'm probably tuning in tonight and tomorrow to check if it's worth bothering with WWE at all. I would be shocked if anything meaningful happens in next 36 hours.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:21:31 GMT -5
I suppose you don't have to be a rabid Bryan fan to know that Orton vs. Batista headlining Wrestlemania would be a really bad idea. But yes, these next two nights are going to be make or break for WM30.
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Post by darkendless on Feb 23, 2014 15:28:35 GMT -5
I can't believe with as much as Vince likes symbolism and the big numbers, how he'd let WM30 go ahead with one of the most boring and stale main events ever. Then again, the last few have been Cena vs Rock and Miz before that so.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:32:11 GMT -5
I suppose you don't have to be a rabid Bryan fan to know that Orton vs. Batista headlining Wrestlemania would be a really bad idea. But yes, these next two nights are going to be make or break for WM30. If they go through with Orton vs. Batista, there's no way they'll let it end the show. Not only because of the reaction it'll get, but Orton and 2014 Batista aren't big enough draws to main event a show of that magnitude.
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Post by Dean-o on Feb 23, 2014 15:33:19 GMT -5
By the end of Raw tomorrow night, we'll know and have:
- The main event of WrestleMania 30 - The final result of Daniel Bryan's push or lack there of - The role Hulk Hogan will play in the company - The launch of the WWE Network
So much is happening it's almost like the absence of CM Punk isn't even a factor right now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 15:36:02 GMT -5
I hope no one is getting their hopes up tonight. Just look at how that turned out for the Rumble.
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Post by percymania on Feb 23, 2014 16:19:12 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Lancers on Feb 23, 2014 16:22:13 GMT -5
Wrestlemania Tres Equis is far, far more important because of the possibility of their Network platform being unable to handle the amount of traffic caused by people streaming that event. If it fails, expect a lot of criticism going their way for being unprepared and people demanding refunds, cancelling their commitment, etc.
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Post by molson5 on Feb 23, 2014 16:40:15 GMT -5
I don't think the results of tonight's show or tomorrow's RAW are all that important in the grand scheme of things, but the debut of the network will commence one of the most important periods of the history of the company. This is easily the biggest business move the WWE has made since buying WCW.
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Post by angryfan on Feb 23, 2014 17:01:16 GMT -5
I don't think the results of tonight's show or tomorrow's RAW are all that important in the grand scheme of things, but the debut of the network will commence one of the most important periods of the history of the company. This is easily the biggest business move the WWE has made since buying WCW. Were this 15 years ago, you'd be dead on. However, now...today and tomorrow could be critical. The target, repeatedly, has been "casual fans" and "mainstream", THIS, this network, is the final step in Vince's dream that he's always had. He wants his own network, to control the programming, to make it HIS vision. It's his ultimate alpha male wet dream. Wait and see isn't the mantra of the casual fans or the young fans, or even society today. It's "right now, when I want it". That's why the format of the network works and gets buzz, because it's the formula that is popular with the societal mindset. If they stumble out of the gate and start having flame outs and content not work, not to mention an even partial loss of WrestleMania (the biggest selling point for the casual and young fans), then it can absolutely hurt them in a very real way for a very long time. Because while the fans like us who love wrestling the art form will always be there to get our fix. The kids will even be buying the merch, but will they be begging for the 10 dollar a month service that didn't work when they tried it last time and just has a bunch of old guys on it and not the people that are important on the shows (Raw and SD)? The network, whether it goes huge or down in flames, will not stop me loving wrestling, it won't stop me busting out like five time transferred VHS tapes of Big Time Wrestling from the 1970's or seeking out an indy show with 50 other people to watch guys I've never heard of try their hardest to put on the best match they are physically capable of. That won't stop becaust it isnt' hinging on Vince McMahon or Triple H's view of what "entertainment" should be, or on how that entertainment should be delivered. I will find wrestling wherever it is, and I will love it. I may pick at it psychologically, I may analyze the characters, but I will not ever stop being grateful for the effort by those who I've had the privilege to watch. The thing is, I'm in the "minority" now, I get it. I'm not the target of the network, and while I think it can be awesome, I'm also free of blinders. If it succeeds, it will be a game changer, if it fails...well, that will be a game changer as well.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Feb 23, 2014 17:12:42 GMT -5
So tonight and tomorrow are very big deals for me as a fan. It will determine whether or not I purchase wwe network. Call me every name in the book if you like, but it represents the very small way I can voice an opinion on their direction. Also I have several wrestling dvds I haven't touched.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 22:47:31 GMT -5
So tonight and tomorrow are very big deals for me as a fan. It will determine whether or not I purchase wwe network. Call me every name in the book if you like, but it represents the very small way I can voice an opinion on their direction. Also I have several wrestling dvds I haven't touched. With respect, why would anyone call you anything? This seems like a very smart decision to me. Congratulations on being one of the few consumers who actually votes with his wallet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 23:08:21 GMT -5
Despite no doubt they will correct it tomorrow on RAW I don't doubt they lost a decent amount of sales with the end of tonight's PPV. Bryan winning would have still setup the triple threat so I don't see why they couldn't just send the fans home happy especially on the eve of the network launch.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Feb 23, 2014 23:11:01 GMT -5
So tonight and tomorrow are very big deals for me as a fan. It will determine whether or not I purchase wwe network. Call me every name in the book if you like, but it represents the very small way I can voice an opinion on their direction. Also I have several wrestling dvds I haven't touched. With respect, why would anyone call you anything? This seems like a very smart decision to me. Congratulations on being one of the few consumers who actually votes with his wallet. In other forums that this has been brought up, there were many who said not buying the network because of disagreement with the current product was all kinds of childish and stupid. Voting with your wallet is the only way they'll care. Big corporations don't care how much you complain as long as they're still getting your money. Just look at Microsoft with XBOX1. They mocked those who complained about the restrictive policies. As soon as the preorder numbers came in and they saw how badly they were getting beat, they did a 180 on the hated policies real quick. All about the money.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 23, 2014 23:12:38 GMT -5
I also won't be purchasing the Network unless Bryan gets placed in the Main Event.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 23, 2014 23:15:03 GMT -5
Despite no doubt they will correct it tomorrow on RAW I don't doubt they lost a decent amount of sales with the end of tonight's PPV. Bryan winning would have still setup the triple threat so I don't see why they couldn't just send the fans home happy especially on the eve of the network launch. That's my confusion. If the plan is put the title on Bryan tomorrow, why not launch on Tuesday? Why launch the morning after you pissed off your audience again?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2014 23:17:01 GMT -5
Will make a good chapter in the eventual Death of WWE book I guess.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 23, 2014 23:55:18 GMT -5
Despite no doubt they will correct it tomorrow on RAW I don't doubt they lost a decent amount of sales with the end of tonight's PPV. Bryan winning would have still setup the triple threat so I don't see why they couldn't just send the fans home happy especially on the eve of the network launch. That's my confusion. If the plan is put the title on Bryan tomorrow, why not launch on Tuesday? Why launch the morning after you pissed off your audience again? I thought the network was set to live as soon as RAW signed off.
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