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Post by turkeysandwich on Mar 12, 2014 15:33:37 GMT -5
Because seeing Andre, Donald Trump, and all of the Hulkamaniacs falling into the ocean with Trump holding his family under one arm while hanging onto the top of Trump Plaza, waiting for Hulkster to dog paddle them to safety, would have made for a fascinating conclusion to a PPV.  |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Mar 12, 2014 17:27:41 GMT -5
If one of them had won who would they have faced? I can't remember. I haven't watched it in probably ten years.
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Post by Spider2024 on Mar 12, 2014 17:31:48 GMT -5
If one of them had won who would they have faced? I can't remember. I haven't watched it in probably ten years. DiBiase |
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Post by champviadq on Mar 13, 2014 8:38:28 GMT -5
They made the right decision though.
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Post by The Varsity Club on Mar 13, 2014 10:01:59 GMT -5
There never should of been a rematch in the first place. It should of been a once in the lifetime match.
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Post by Digital Witness on Mar 13, 2014 10:10:05 GMT -5
I think it was wise to go the route they did. If they were sticking to DiBiase in the final, then DiBiase beating Andre wouldn't have made any sense at all and you knew they weren't putting DiBiase over Hogan. I think it added heat to DiBiase having the easier road to get to the final
Only other logical way I could have seen this going down if the field is the exact same, is that DiBiase does the job to Don Muraco who then falls to Andre who wins via shenanigans and then we have a Macho Man/Andre final. As good as The Magnificent One is, I don't see him beating the Million Dollar Man in 1988.
Having looked at the bracket, that was a weirdly planned bracket. Was there a story as to why Andre and Hogan both received first round byes? I also don't really understand why Rude/Roberts was a time limit draw.
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Post by The Varsity Club on Mar 13, 2014 10:16:42 GMT -5
can anyone recall the bracket and post it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 13, 2014 10:22:18 GMT -5
Never mind that, I wanted to see the Warrior lose so he'd give up his soul to the collective that is Hulkamania.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 13, 2014 10:55:03 GMT -5
I think it was wise to go the route they did. If they were sticking to DiBiase in the final, then DiBiase beating Andre wouldn't have made any sense at all and you knew they weren't putting DiBiase over Hogan. I think it added heat to DiBiase having the easier road to get to the final Only other logical way I could have seen this going down if the field is the exact same, is that DiBiase does the job to Don Muraco who then falls to Andre who wins via shenanigans and then we have a Macho Man/Andre final. As good as The Magnificent One is, I don't see him beating the Million Dollar Man in 1988. Having looked at the bracket, that was a weirdly planned bracket. Was there a story as to why Andre and Hogan both received first round byes? I also don't really understand why Rude/Roberts was a time limit draw. Hogan and Andre were the two guys embroiled in the original title controversy, and technically the last two champions; hence, they were automatically put in the quarters, ala Hogan and 'Taker both getting to pick between 21-30 in the 1992 Rumble since they were the champs leading up to the Survivor Series '91/Tuesday in Texas controversy. I always just assumed that Rude vs. Roberts went the way it did to further their feud; plus it put One Man Gang automatically in the semi's, so that Savage would have to overcome a fresh big guy after having fought his way through the first two rounds. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Mar 13, 2014 10:59:25 GMT -5
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 13, 2014 11:13:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 11:19:55 GMT -5
........how do I NOT remember that swimming part of that promo?!?
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 13, 2014 18:00:14 GMT -5
Contrary to popular belief, the Jake/Rude feud was taped a few days prior but didn't air until AFTER Wrestlemania 4. I've seen it mentioned a few times over the years as being in full swing before the PPV.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 13, 2014 18:25:50 GMT -5
That much baby oil has to be an environmental hazard of some kind.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Mar 13, 2014 18:38:45 GMT -5
That's the original bracket. They switched the brackets before the show because DiBiase was supposed to win initially. The Roberts/Rude and Duggan/DiBiase matches were flipped. There was some convoluted reason why having to do with Honky Tonk Man refusing to drop the IC Title to Savage. It is amazing how they had a tournament with 11 matches, you had two DQ's, a double DQ, a draw and a countout. |
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Post by turkeysandwich on Mar 13, 2014 18:49:10 GMT -5
That's the original bracket. They switched the brackets before the show because DiBiase was supposed to win initially. The Roberts/Rude and Duggan/DiBiase matches were flipped. There was some convoluted reason why having to do with Honky Tonk Man refusing to drop the IC Title to Savage. It is amazing how they had a tournament with 11 matches, you had two DQ's, a double DQ, a draw and a countout. That's interesting. I knew that Dibiase was originally supposed to win, but I didn't know they originally had a different bracket. Assuming Rude/Roberts would have still ended in a draw and the Hogan/Andre would have ended with the same double DQ, was the original plan for Dibiase to face Don Muraco in the Finals? That would have sucked, because surely no one would have believed that Muraco could be WWF champion at that time, maybe 4 or 5 years prior, but not in 1988. |
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Post by Digital Witness on Mar 13, 2014 18:54:28 GMT -5
I can't get behind the idea or the logic that Savage won the top tier title because the midcard title holder refused to job.
1. Did Honky Tonk have the stroke to pull a power play like that?
2. How does one go from a planned IC title reign to winning the biggest championship in the company at a time when the average reign was several years long with guys like Hogan and Andre in the main event scene in a tournament that involved said main eventers on the biggest show of the year? That makes zero sense.
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Post by khali on Mar 13, 2014 19:04:37 GMT -5
When I watched Mania IV back last year, I was amazed at how terribly some of it was booked. Savage reached the finals because One Man Gang hit him with a cane and then tried to keep hitting him while Savage rolled out of the way. I seem to remember OMG and Bigelow having a lame finish too. Overall, the show is pretty awful, even for this time period.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 13, 2014 19:38:17 GMT -5
I can't get behind the idea or the logic that Savage won the top tier title because the midcard title holder refused to job. 1. Did Honky Tonk have the stroke to pull a power play like that? 2. How does one go from a planned IC title reign to winning the biggest championship in the company at a time when the average reign was several years long with guys like Hogan and Andre in the main event scene in a tournament that involved said main eventers on the biggest show of the year? That makes zero sense. Don't know the answer to the first. The IC was actually a pretty big deal back then. Savage probably would have played the challenger roll to DiBiase while Hogan was filming No Holds Barred. I think the issue, in addition to HTM not wanting to job to Savage, was that Vince hated having the heels go over on a PPV, especially Wrestlemania. Look at those early PPVs, how many times did a main event end with the heel winning. It took until Wrestlemania 16 before the WWF had a heel win the Main Event. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 13, 2014 19:59:24 GMT -5
That's the original bracket. They switched the brackets before the show because DiBiase was supposed to win initially. The Roberts/Rude and Duggan/DiBiase matches were flipped. There was some convoluted reason why having to do with Honky Tonk Man refusing to drop the IC Title to Savage. It is amazing how they had a tournament with 11 matches, you had two DQ's, a double DQ, a draw and a countout. That's interesting. I knew that Dibiase was originally supposed to win, but I didn't know they originally had a different bracket. Assuming Rude/Roberts would have still ended in a draw and the Hogan/Andre would have ended with the same double DQ, was the original plan for Dibiase to face Don Muraco in the Finals? That would have sucked, because surely no one would have believed that Muraco could be WWF champion at that time, maybe 4 or 5 years prior, but not in 1988. Supposedly, the plan was for Hogan to beat Andre and then either Rude or Bravo in the semi's, while Dibiase would advance to the finals through cheating, buying wins and just plain lucky bye's. Then a relatively fresh Dibiase would beat an exhausted Hogan for the title at the end. |
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