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Post by StuntGranny® on Apr 15, 2014 17:54:19 GMT -5
I missed it last night, so I just looked up the WWE's Warrior tribute warrior. Jesus Christ. I don't care who you are and how you felt about his political beliefs, if you don't choke back tears when his kids show up, something is wrong.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 15, 2014 18:10:51 GMT -5
I missed it last night, so I just looked up the WWE's Warrior tribute warrior. Jesus Christ. I don't care who you are and how you felt about his political beliefs, if you don't choke back tears when his kids show up, something is wrong. Man I was just going to post something about this. Seeing his kids at the HOF really hit me. So heartbreaking.
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Post by Boozeman on Apr 15, 2014 18:16:46 GMT -5
I have the feeling that he knew his time was short, which is why he agreed to put aside his differences and reconcile with Vince McMahon and get a proper goodbye before it was too late. It's just that the timing was too impeccable. A fatal heart attack isn't something you can predict happening. Triple H says he spent 18 months getting to know/negotiating with Warrior to get him back in the fold. I don't think he would have gone through all that haggling to agree to a multi year deal if he thought he was dying soon.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Apr 15, 2014 18:29:40 GMT -5
He may have indeed thought his time was short. Warrior believed he only had '20 years left' back in 1996 due to what happened to his father and grandfather: "And I'm thinking about my father's passing away at 57. I'm thinking about the lady that's called me - she's like his fifth wife and she's trying to communicate with me that he wants to make peace...I just had my 37th birthday. I got 20 years left in my life maybe. I'm doing these calculations in my head. My grandfather die(d) at 52." Full reference is here: whatculture.com/wwe/ultimate-warrior-4-incredible-secrets-facts-career.php/2
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 15, 2014 18:59:09 GMT -5
He may have indeed thought his time was short. Warrior believed he only had '20 years left' back in 1996 due to what happened to his father and grandfather: "And I'm thinking about my father's passing away at 57. I'm thinking about the lady that's called me - she's like his fifth wife and she's trying to communicate with me that he wants to make peace...I just had my 37th birthday. I got 20 years left in my life maybe. I'm doing these calculations in my head. My grandfather die(d) at 52." Full reference is here: whatculture.com/wwe/ultimate-warrior-4-incredible-secrets-facts-career.php/2He damn near called it perfectly
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Post by The Tee Why on Apr 15, 2014 19:20:59 GMT -5
WWE really knows how to pick great music for tribute videos :/ very touching tribute and I dont mind sayin I choked back a few tears watching that video.
The song kinda really hit me hard as I lost my younger brother 2 months ago. Those touching songs really do a number on me now. WWE's media department is top notch
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 15, 2014 19:35:59 GMT -5
I have the feeling that he knew his time was short, which is why he agreed to put aside his differences and reconcile with Vince McMahon and get a proper goodbye before it was too late. It's just that the timing was too impeccable. A fatal heart attack isn't something you can predict happening. Triple H says he spent 18 months getting to know/negotiating with Warrior to get him back in the fold. I don't think he would have gone through all that haggling to agree to a multi year deal if he thought he was dying soon. As was mentioned, both his father and grandfather died at just about the same age he did, with presumably the same issues. He probably had an inkling that it was very possible.
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Post by Chip on Apr 15, 2014 20:29:17 GMT -5
As was mentioned, both his father and grandfather died at just about the same age he did, with presumably the same issues. He probably had an inkling that it was very possible. I imagine he must have been very happy when both of his children ended up being girls in that case, maybe the family issue can end at him.
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Post by hassanchop on Apr 15, 2014 21:20:37 GMT -5
What other former WWE stars, personalities and legends said about Warrior: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A0-J7CNk6IHighlights from some of the tributes included: "Diamond" Dallas Page ( on his Nancy Grace appearance) : "...I almost got up and walked away, but if I would've done that how would that look for wrestling? I was just like, Nancy, he hasn't wrestled in eighteen years, what are you talking about?" (Remembering the Warrior): "...On his first day in WCW, when he came to the arena, at some point, he had someone grab me and Goldberg and brought us to meet him. He wanted to meet us...so, we go over to his locker room, and he gives us a big hug and he says, 'guys, I just want you to know, I've been watching, and I'm loving your energy and you two guys are the reason why I want to get back in the ring.' So, for me, I don't know about Bill, but for me, that's a pretty big deal...that was pretty cool, and if you followed all the way through, when I was the driver ( at WrestleMania 6), Diamond Dallas Page, chauffeur, I hadn't even made it to WCW as a manager yet...I'm there when he is going for the World title against Hogan, and then the match that he ends up going against Hogan again at Halloween Havoc, I'm going for the World title against Goldberg, it was pretty crazy...then I saw Jim again, last year at WrestleCon...and he just started talking about me doing gods work, with Jake and Scott and he talked about it for a while, it was very cool. So, then his induction speech, my god, when he slid in DDP Yoga... I was sitting with Kimberly, my ex wife and my girlfriend...and he said it like three or four times...Jim ain't doing that unless he is busting your chops...it just made me feel so good. I was actually bummed out because I couldn't find him after, I was looking for him, and I actually got his number, and I was going to call him yesterday and thank him for doing that! but I never got the opportunity to do that. So, that memory will stay with me for a while...as hard as it it is on the family and his poor little girls, at least their dad, whatever the hurt and the pain was with WWE, at least pain was, with the WWE, at least he got to go out the way he should go out. Because when he said that last DVD was wrong, he is right, I couldn't even watch it...when you get the reaction he got eighteen years later, for him to have that kind of impact, on people, you know, WWE did the right thing...I'm just glad that if the Warrior was going to be taken to the next level, whatever that is, that his time here, that things I won't say mixed, but were justified...he will be remembered fondly, as he should be..." Kevin Sullivan : "...I knew him before he was in the wrestling business. I knew him when I was bodybuilding and he was Mr. Georgia...I watched him perform, he electrified the crowd...He was up in the WWF the next thing I knew and he was getting a huge reaction...Vince McMahon promoted the Warrior right behind Hulk and they ended up drawing a huge gate for WrestleMania...baby face versus baby face and it drew huge...All these people that knock the Warrior's work...well people who knock guys work have never put on a pair of tights. Not all of us could work like Ric Flair, or Shawn Michaels, or Ray Stevens or guys of that caliber, but the Warrior did something that people don't understand. He put asses every eighteen inches. He had to be over to sell out and the Warrior sold places out, time and time again...He was a great performer and an icon in this business...He will remain an icon in this business fifty years from now when people Google his name, or whatever they got then, there will be a picture of the Ultimate Warrior. The sad thing is his family isn't going to grow old with him...when I saw his children and him walk on that stage, that really upset me, because I know how hard it must be to grow up without a father. He must've been a great human being because you could look at those kids and see that they were loved, you could look at his wife and see that she was loved. You could look at him and see that he was loved by them. So, it's a sad day in the wrestling business, and it's a sad day for his family...all I can say is I hope everything works well for his family, because they were loved, and I hope the Warrior will rest in peace..." Ken Shamrock : "...I was impressed with his physique and his character...I remember shaking his hand and talking to him, just a really nice guy. He didn't really talk a whole lot, but when he did, he only had kind things to say to me...once I got to talking to him, wow, what a tremendous person, and a tremendous work ethic for him to achieve what he achieved in the style that he did it in. He was always in shape, he always looked good, and wow, what a loss. People always talk about when someone passes away, we always think about them, but if there is one thing that I think we need to understand! it's that they have moved on and we are the ones left here on earth to sort through the pain and hurt. So, I think that our prayers and our thoughts need to go out to the family and friends to help them through these times, because, when we move on, we move on to something better. So, god bless to the people who are still around and are trying to fight through their loss still. God bless them, and Godspeed..." Bill Apter : "...One of the most catastrophic moments in the universe, is what has happened to the Ultimate Warrior, on what was probably one of the greatest weekends of his life. But, we want to remember the good times, and people ask me, what is it that you remember most about the Ultimate Warrior. It wasn't really anything that he did in the ring. It was this past weekend, when he became the ultimate Warrior again and he got back in character on Monday Night Raw and also the awesome speech that he made where he made peace with himself and everyone else and showed how much his family meant to him. That was the quality behind the Ultimate a Warrior. Man, they must be having a heck of a battle royal, welcoming him into heaven, with "Ravishing "Rick Rude and Curt Hennig and all those guys..." J.J. Dillon: "...There are outsiders often who look and who are critical of people, who aren't maybe the best technicians in the ring. They seem to be critical of them as though that's the most important thing, and I am not in judgement of how great he was in the ring in the course of a match, but I can tell you, that when the music hit and he came through that curtain like a freight train, huffing and puffing, and running to the ring, and shaking the ropes, he electrified a crowd. It wasn't like it was a phenomenon that lasted just one or two times, like a lot of things in life that are successful, there is a test of time involved and he consistently really was a superstar in our profession...at the end of the day, you have to look at what he accomplished and what he meant to the business and I for one know the feeling of someone who loved the business, who was grateful for how kind the business was to me and then to receive the acknowledgement of being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame....it really is very, very gratifying, and I know it had to be for Warrior at this stage with all that has happened...I went to bed, not knowing the news, and traditionally, when I get up in the morning! the first thing I do is turn on my computer and I saw it just full screen, the Ultimate Warrior has died, and I gasped, I'm sitting there alone, just collecting my thoughts, and I see fifty four years old...it causes you to think about your own mortality, if only for that instant. I guess you have to look at the positive side, which is what I try to do, in that he had the same experience I had in that he went to the Hall of Fame ceremony, got the approval of everybody in the business. He got the chance to meet one on one with people who he may have had issues from in the past and as they say, the hatchet was buried with a lot of these people, including Vince McMahon and the WWE. Then the next day, to be introduced at WrestleMania, the event itself, and he got an individual introduction and came out and again, the response from the crowd. Again, I watched Monday, when he came out on Raw and I had not seen him in seven years...I went to one of these small wrestling conventions in New Jersey...I hadn't seen him in a while and there was just a line of people out the door, to see him and have that moment with him...I didn't want to leave without stopping by and saying hello to him, because he was somebody who I did respect and did admire. he saw me and as always was very gracious. He paused everything for a moment and had me come around the table and gave me a big hug. We had a limited few seconds together to say hello...I am happy for that moment and it's hard to believe seven years have passed. I saw him when he walked out on Raw...it's good that he had a chance to get in front of a live audience and say what was in his heart and much the way I feel is that the final comment that he made. He pointed out in all directions of the audience and thanked the fans because basically without them, there would've been no Warrior. So it was good that he gets the recognition to be in the Hall of Fame, he had a chance to put to rest a lot of feelings that maybe festered for a long time that shouldn't have still been there...he got the chance to get in front of the people and say thank you and then the next day, I just really feel sad for his widow and his two daughters that walked out with him when he was introduced. It's just hard to put into words, it is just very, very sad..."
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2014 22:35:04 GMT -5
Watching the tribute video a couple pages back, just noticed how shaken Cody Rhodes and Natty appear; Would either have even known Warrior? I guess both might have been around locker rooms as children.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Apr 15, 2014 22:37:08 GMT -5
Natty for sure has Jim was in WWE pretty much the entire time Warrior was. And Cody, while Dusty's time was limited, sure that Cody interacted with him.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 15, 2014 22:37:48 GMT -5
Watching the tribute video a couple pages back, just noticed how shaken Cody Rhodes and Natty appear; Would either have even known Warrior? I guess both might have been around locker rooms as children. Yeah, probably, and if not, seeing him with his family so recently, then he's gone, it's just got to be brutal.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 15, 2014 22:39:30 GMT -5
Watching the tribute video a couple pages back, just noticed how shaken Cody Rhodes and Natty appear; Would either have even known Warrior? I guess both might have been around locker rooms as children. I am pretty sure Cody has talked about being a huge fan and going with his dad to Mania 6, not to see his dad wrestle but to see Hogan/Warrior. To be a fan as a child and have that access to people, then years later be somewhat of a peer and lose them so suddenly would be jarring to say the least.
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Post by sammy123 on Apr 15, 2014 22:41:22 GMT -5
Had a 30 min convo with Cody once -- one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet
Nattie too -- very genuine and respectful
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Apr 15, 2014 22:42:45 GMT -5
Watching the tribute video a couple pages back, just noticed how shaken Cody Rhodes and Natty appear; Would either have even known Warrior? I guess both might have been around locker rooms as children. Possibly both, Neidhart and Dusty were both in WWF at the same time periods so maybe their paths did cross
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Post by Matt on Apr 15, 2014 22:43:31 GMT -5
Without knowing what level they knew him personally maybe it just hits home with their own Fathers/Uncles and just never knowing when something can happen.
I hate to say I've gotten used to the idea that these guys are going to pass away but I have. I was a big fan of the Ultimate Warrior as a kid and this one has really hit me hard. I hope he was able to find peace however it was he wanted to and the WWE really does do an amazing tribute.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2014 22:48:57 GMT -5
Very possible, but still a bit odd. During his 1992 run, Natty would have been 10 and Cody 7.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 15, 2014 23:04:14 GMT -5
For reasons I don't know, a week out, this death has still shook me. Maybe because he's the first guy to die I was a huge fan of. Wearing zinc and styling it in his facepaint. Being a 90's kid, so access to neon colored shoelaces was easy, tying those around my still non-existent biceps...being the Warrior. I'm still not over it. I cried during his tribute and I never met the man.
He's been gone from my TV since about 96, now that I know it's impossible for him to ever come back, man I miss him.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Apr 16, 2014 5:08:25 GMT -5
It looked to me like maybe Cody and Nattie were praying.
But, I dunno how religious they are.
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Post by Throwback on Apr 16, 2014 6:19:29 GMT -5
Watching the tribute video a couple pages back, just noticed how shaken Cody Rhodes and Natty appear; Would either have even known Warrior? I guess both might have been around locker rooms as children. Not to take the severity of the situation away. But Being in a group of wrestlers up on stage paying tribute to a recently passed away wrestler. Probably puts other thoughts and memories into Nattie's head as well.
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