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Post by RIHT on Apr 18, 2014 18:19:02 GMT -5
I know we hear about AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, etc., but who actually could... and should go to WWE? Feel free to specify when listing. Also, for this, let's just say guys like AJ Styles are still in TNA. Here's how it could be formatted: Should: -Austin Aries -Bobby Roode -Tazz (for commentary and laughs, because I am sick of Cole, King, and JBL on every show) -Rockstar Spud and ECIII (if used for the Authority in the same way Dixie used them) -Samoa Joe -AJ Styles (although, actually, it might be a bit late for him) -Kurt Angle (needs to end career in his true home) Could: -MVP -Jeff Hardy -Kurt Angle Stark difference in the two, eh? What do you guys think? Anyways, from your F.A.N. HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION to you,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 22:15:17 GMT -5
IF WWE was still on the ball, like they were before the Mondays night wars ended. Aries, Joe, Strom, Daniels and Roode would already have been on the roster for 6 years at least.
But realistically
Jeff Hardy, EC3 and maybe Sam Shaw.
MVP? No too old and no charisma.
Kurt Angle: He is very badly hurt, so I don't think WWE would take the risk. Maybe on a legends deal.
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 18, 2014 22:17:16 GMT -5
EC3 is doing a great job, WWE missed the ball on him. He would be great with this gimmick in WWE.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 18, 2014 22:22:30 GMT -5
I disagree with the sentiment that Angle has to end his career in the WWE. He needs to either stay in TNA or retire for both his sake and WWE's. One, WWE needs to learn to stop relying on past stars and an Angle return would just be a step backwards. Two, if WWE takes that step backwards, they'd be all too willing to enable Kurt's WTFery just for the sake of having his "star power" around. If it's "too late" for AJ, then it's probably too late for Aries, Joe, Roode, etc/ as well. I wouldn't say they "should" be in WWE because "should" basically implies that these guys are "too good for TNA" and I'd rather think of them as being guys who managed to "make it" in wrestling without the WWE machine rather as guys who are "slumming it" and "could do better". EC3 is doing a great job, WWE missed the ball on him. He would be great with this gimmick in WWE. WWE DID miss the ball. But at the same time, if Michael Hutter did come back to WWE, I'd rather see him as a (better utilized) Derrick Bateman than as EC3. I'd rather they acknowledge his past than risk him possibly getting "Tensai'd". |
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Post by Orange on Apr 18, 2014 22:26:56 GMT -5
If this were 2005-7 I'd agree that Joe to WWE would be great for both parties, but not now. I'm a HUGE fan of Joe, but my God, he was a goddamned monster in the mid 2000s and easily could've been THE guy in WWE.
As far as right now, I'd say Aries, EC3, Shaw and Zema Ion. I don't think Zema would be a huge star, but Aries, EC3 and Shaw would be great in the WWE.
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Post by Ken: The Hero of WWE on Apr 18, 2014 22:32:42 GMT -5
EC3 could become the next big thing in the WWE. I also wouldn't mind seeing Sam Shaw in the Waytt Family.
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Post by siredger on Apr 18, 2014 22:51:37 GMT -5
I'd love to see Bobby Roode and Austin Aries in WWE right now. I think they'd do great. I echo the general feeling that WWE has missed the boat on EC3. The guy has finally grown on me for the past few weeks, ever since he's been paired with Rockstar Spud on a regular basis.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 19, 2014 8:58:17 GMT -5
They should have done more with EC3 and MVP when they had them. Angle could sign a legends deal and be fine, but I think TNA's schedule is far more friendly to him. If Hardy does truly get his stuff together and could endure the schedule, they'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Apart from that, I could see Roode going and being successful, and maybe Aries. That's really it.
No on Styles and Joe. WWE barely uses the flyers that it has, and Styles wouldn't be any different. Joe's time is just over. Maybe a few years ago he could have done it, but not anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2014 9:08:24 GMT -5
Roode should've been signed in the early 2000s when he appeared in WWE tryout matches but then again nobody knew Roode from then would evolve into the It Factor which is possibly one of the best gimmicks of the modern day.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 19, 2014 9:25:22 GMT -5
Doesn't matter who we want to go to WWE, WWE does not want any people from TNA. Especially after that bullshit lawsuit TNA did against them a few years ago. WWE passed over Styles, Morgan, Daniels, Angelina Love, Tara, and numerous others. There was a time when they did want Storm, Roode, and Joe but their stock dropped in WWE's eyes.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 19, 2014 10:14:59 GMT -5
Doesn't matter who we want to go to WWE, WWE does not want any people from TNA. Especially after that bullshit lawsuit TNA did against them a few years ago. WWE passed over Styles, Morgan, Daniels, Angelina Love, Tara, and numerous others. There was a time when they did want Storm, Roode, and Joe but their stock dropped in WWE's eyes. Honestly, it brings up an interesting theory. Is WWE fighting or getting back at TNA by simply refusing to look at anyone from there? Truthfully, they don't 'need' anyone on that roster, they're doing just fine. But if new wrestlers know that being in TNA means you won't be in WWE, it'd be a pretty effective way to keep any talent that wants to ultimately be in WWE from going to TNA. Of course, that'd be giving WWE way more credit than they deserve. I mean, they're probably that petty, but I don't think they're that forward-thinking. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 19, 2014 10:21:45 GMT -5
Doesn't matter who we want to go to WWE, WWE does not want any people from TNA. Especially after that bullshit lawsuit TNA did against them a few years ago. WWE passed over Styles, Morgan, Daniels, Angelina Love, Tara, and numerous others. There was a time when they did want Storm, Roode, and Joe but their stock dropped in WWE's eyes. Honestly, it brings up an interesting theory. Is WWE fighting or getting back at TNA by simply refusing to look at anyone from there? Truthfully, they don't 'need' anyone on that roster, they're doing just fine. But if new wrestlers know that being in TNA means you won't be in WWE, it'd be a pretty effective way to keep any talent that wants to ultimately be in WWE from going to TNA. Of course, that'd be giving WWE way more credit than they deserve. I mean, they're probably that petty, but I don't think they're that forward-thinking. They still hire the occasional former TNA wrestler like Xavier Woods and Vance Archer but they avoid the bigger names. When TNA filed that lawsuit against WWE years ago, Triple H publically stated that WWE has no interest in any TNA wrestler and were not be pursuing them even when their contract expired. After that, that's when TNA start to lowball talent when it came to contact renewal. The threat of going to WWE was no longer there. And WWE has stuck to their word. |
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 19, 2014 10:32:02 GMT -5
Honestly, it brings up an interesting theory. Is WWE fighting or getting back at TNA by simply refusing to look at anyone from there? Truthfully, they don't 'need' anyone on that roster, they're doing just fine. But if new wrestlers know that being in TNA means you won't be in WWE, it'd be a pretty effective way to keep any talent that wants to ultimately be in WWE from going to TNA. Of course, that'd be giving WWE way more credit than they deserve. I mean, they're probably that petty, but I don't think they're that forward-thinking. They still hire the occasional former TNA wrestler like Xavier Woods and Vance Archer but they avoid the bigger names. When TNA filed that lawsuit against WWE years ago, Triple H publically stated that WWE has no interest in any TNA wrestler and were not be pursuing them even when their contract expired. After that, that's when TNA start to lowball talent when it came to contact renewal. The threat of going to WWE was no longer there. And WWE has stuck to their word. Those hirees were before that lawsuit, weren't they? Or is my timeline off. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 19, 2014 10:38:13 GMT -5
They still hire the occasional former TNA wrestler like Xavier Woods and Vance Archer but they avoid the bigger names. When TNA filed that lawsuit against WWE years ago, Triple H publically stated that WWE has no interest in any TNA wrestler and were not be pursuing them even when their contract expired. After that, that's when TNA start to lowball talent when it came to contact renewal. The threat of going to WWE was no longer there. And WWE has stuck to their word. Those hirees were before that lawsuit, weren't they? Or is my timeline off. Before the lawsuit. The lawsuit happened after Ric Flair went back to WWE to be inducted with the 4 Horsemen while still on the TNA roster. Flair's contract was coming up in a few months and he wasn't planning to re-sign with TNA. WWE had hired a former TNA employee who proceeds to give them info about the contracts coming up for renewal. WWE fires the dude and reports this back to TNA who then sues WWE for contract tampering. WWE is pissed at this and puts an embargo on TNA talent. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 20, 2014 18:50:26 GMT -5
Begins and ends with Bobby Roode. It legit makes me upset when I watch a guy that freaking good dick around in modern day TNA.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 20, 2014 20:55:16 GMT -5
They should have done more with EC3 and MVP when they had them. Angle could sign a legends deal and be fine, but I think TNA's schedule is far more friendly to him. If Hardy does truly get his stuff together and could endure the schedule, they'd take him back in a heartbeat. Apart from that, I could see Roode going and being successful, and maybe Aries. That's really it. No on Styles and Joe. WWE barely uses the flyers that it has, and Styles wouldn't be any different. Joe's time is just over. Maybe a few years ago he could have done it, but not anymore. If AJ can't be for age reasons as some say or his "style" Aries would be on the no list as he the same age if not older than AJ is. I'm not sure what show you are watching with the high flyer deal. Seth Rollins is being pushed. Daniel Bryan has his share of flying moves. Now while not all these high flyers are not ME level. Plenty do get TV time. |
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Post by gnr123 on Apr 20, 2014 21:14:08 GMT -5
Maybe Kurt for a legends contract and Hall of Fame induction. They would sign Jeff Hardy back in a heartbeat if he was clean.
Other than that, I can't think of anyone. MVP is to old, EC3 is mediocre at best, Roode and Storm are both well in their thirty's. Styles hasn't done a lick of wrestling in the WWE to make it be age 37. It sucks really, you had talented people sitting around in little rinky-dinky TNA for so many years, their stocks have significantly lowered and they never truly known what it mean to be at the big time. My best bet, never go to TNA. Wait for WWE to come calling. It worked out ALOT of Daniel Bryan.
Maybe Aries, but that's pretty much it as far as the "non-former WWE" TNA talent is concerned. And I'm just saying that because he's the only one I remembered that was the least bit entertaining when I used to sporadically watch TNA many months ago.
WWE's roster is basically stacked with both the main roster and developmental, they really don't need anyone from TNA.
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Post by Red Impact on Apr 20, 2014 21:50:53 GMT -5
They should have done more with EC3 and MVP when they had them. Angle could sign a legends deal and be fine, but I think TNA's schedule is far more friendly to him. If Hardy does truly get his stuff together and could endure the schedule, they'd take him back in a heartbeat. Apart from that, I could see Roode going and being successful, and maybe Aries. That's really it. No on Styles and Joe. WWE barely uses the flyers that it has, and Styles wouldn't be any different. Joe's time is just over. Maybe a few years ago he could have done it, but not anymore. If AJ can't be for age reasons as some say or his "style" Aries would be on the no list as he the same age if not older than AJ is. I'm not sure what show you are watching with the high flyer deal. Seth Rollins is being pushed. Daniel Bryan has his share of flying moves. Now while not all these high flyers are not ME level. Plenty do get TV time. Bryan's share of flying movies is about the same as Taker's, he's a technical wrestler who goes to the turnbuckle for a couple of moves, not a high flyer. If you're not Jeff Hardy, then it's just not likely that a guy with that style who is as old as Cena is going to get a look. They've gotten a little bit better, sure, but they still use those guys much less often and have more than they use. They've filled the spots they have with younger guys. The WWE's trends with those guys just makes me think one in their mid-30's who the WWE most likely wouldn't respect the name value of is better off not trying to go there. I didn't realize Aries was that old, probably should have checked before I put his name up there, but as he is you'd be correct, he'd go onto the hard no list. |
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Apr 21, 2014 1:57:24 GMT -5
There's only one name from TNA that would do anything for the WWE and that's Sting. And the WWE all but has him locked down.
You could make a case for wanting Kurt Angle to finish up in the WWE. Maybe bring Jeff Hardy back for a run to sell some merchandise or champion the midcard for awhile. Maybe even bring in Bobby Roode to do something in the midcard along with MVP. Both would be solid additions at the Ziggler level.
The rest of the former WWE stars can go the way of the dodo. Everyone else stinks of so much indy and the WWE already has plenty of indy guys toiling away in development, so they're not needed either.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Apr 21, 2014 10:25:28 GMT -5
If AJ can't be for age reasons as some say or his "style" Aries would be on the no list as he the same age if not older than AJ is. I'm not sure what show you are watching with the high flyer deal. Seth Rollins is being pushed. Daniel Bryan has his share of flying moves. Now while not all these high flyers are not ME level. Plenty do get TV time. Bryan's share of flying movies is about the same as Taker's, he's a technical wrestler who goes to the turnbuckle for a couple of moves, not a high flyer. If you're not Jeff Hardy, then it's just not likely that a guy with that style who is as old as Cena is going to get a look. They've gotten a little bit better, sure, but they still use those guys much less often and have more than they use. They've filled the spots they have with younger guys. The WWE's trends with those guys just makes me think one in their mid-30's who the WWE most likely wouldn't respect the name value of is better off not trying to go there. I didn't realize Aries was that old, probably should have checked before I put his name up there, but as he is you'd be correct, he'd go onto the hard no list. AJ and Aries are both 36 years old. Daniel does do the flying Headbutt, missile Drop Kick, Suicide Drive, and fast passed kicks. Plus the flip of the top before hitting another running move. Bryan is Submission/techincal/High flyer, and striker. The guy is a mix and does a little more moves in the air than Taker. The reason about you High Flying theory is because guys they had all over the card got older and hurt. I mean Rey was MEer or very high on the card before he broke down. Kingston gets pushes from time to time. RVD just cameback so there is another flyer right there. They got a couple in NXT who likely getting called up soon. |
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