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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 20, 2014 20:11:21 GMT -5
I don't know about that. Depending on the ammo used and the location, getting shot could be easier to treat and deal with over dirty stab wounds. I could also about how worse coming to worse I'd rather be shot than stabbed to death as well. You see what recent TNA is doing to me people?! Anyway, there is not enough NO in this world to come close enough to being the proper amount. The talent pool is thinner and worse than at any other point in TNA history. The people coming in or being re-signed are either the bottom of the barrel guys that no company would touch except TNA or ones who stand no chance outside the TNA bubble. The titles are complete jokes held by people either booked worse than WWE's midcard champs or people so untalented that anyone in the ring with them leaves looking worse no matter the outcome. The writing team has shown they are completely bankrupt creatively and in true Russo fashion are completely ignoring the most basic parts of storytelling and wrestling. TNA is making me pine for the days of Total NonStop Angle and I found that to be the worse wrestling I have ever seen in any major company...until current TNA. Um...Madison & Senada say hi! Since neither of them fit those examples. I'll give you Senada as he is new (though the tag stuff out of nowhere did him no favors) but that title is still a joke and has been since Aries handed it over to Hogan 2 years ago. Hell for a long time prior to Aries getting it and TNA using that to prop Aries up it was a complete joke. Madison has been booked piss poorly, IMO and the KO title hasn't been hasn't meant shit in a long time. I stick by my point completely
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Post by grunt on Apr 20, 2014 20:40:02 GMT -5
Holy shit, it sounds terrible! I haven't been able to catch much of it lately due to having to get up crazy early for work but I'm going to try to get in the thread and riff this week. It can't be that bad.....can it? It's not, but you know how it is on the interwebz (and especially about TNA) things are either "the worst ever", or "the best ever", and rarely in between... that's what's so tiring about such topics : you'd expect some nuance and moderation here and there, but you always end up w/ broad statements like "worst I have ever seen" or "all the people coming in/resigned are bottom of the barrel". I'm sure Low Ki, the Wolves, Angelina Love, Sanada or Tigre Uno are glad to learn that they're bottom of the barrel ; same goes for Spud, who has been a comedic highlight of Impact for months, Storm, Gunner, who has proven himself as a solid upper carder, or Robbie E, who has proven he's a reliable tag wrestler (albeit with a shitty gimmick). But hey, whatever. They all suck, TNA sucks, TNA is the worse, yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 20, 2014 20:49:44 GMT -5
Um...Madison & Senada say hi! Since neither of them fit those examples. I'll give you Senada as he is new (though the tag stuff out of nowhere did him no favors) but that title is still a joke and has been since Aries handed it over to Hogan 2 years ago. Hell for a long time prior to Aries getting it and TNA using that to prop Aries up it was a complete joke. Madison has been booked piss poorly, IMO and the KO title hasn't been hasn't meant shit in a long time. I stick by my point completely Senada is fine and all, but the division currently consists of himself, Tigre Uno, and Kenny King. The division is a bigger joke than the title is, and that's saying something.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 20, 2014 20:49:54 GMT -5
Um...Madison & Senada say hi! Since neither of them fit those examples. I'll give you Senada as he is new (though the tag stuff out of nowhere did him no favors) but that title is still a joke and has been since Aries handed it over to Hogan 2 years ago. Hell for a long time prior to Aries getting it and TNA using that to prop Aries up it was a complete joke. Madison has been booked piss poorly, IMO and the KO title hasn't been hasn't meant shit in a long time. I stick by my point completely I kinda agree about the X-Division Title. It's had it's moments over the last couple years(I liked Ion's run & the stuff with Sabin/Aries/Manik last year was good), but yeah, it's definitely had its peaks and valleys, though I like Senada's run so far, since he's actually featured regularly, unlike say Manik last year. I disagree with the KO Title not meaning shit in a long time, I don't think Madison's run has been bad, Mickie's run last year was good, as were Gail's record setting run & Tess' after that, but on the other side, yeah ODB & Tara's last runs weren't that good, so I think it's had more ups than downs the last couple years, but I agree that it could be booked better.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 20, 2014 23:35:37 GMT -5
In the same way that getting stabbed is better than getting shot, yes. Cena seems to shrug my attack off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 23:49:14 GMT -5
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Apr 21, 2014 0:02:38 GMT -5
In the same way that getting stabbed is better than getting shot, yes. Cena seems to shrug my attack off. Super Cena > Jesus
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Apr 21, 2014 2:31:04 GMT -5
It was pretty bad back then also. Still it's really goddamn bad now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 3:59:03 GMT -5
Good heavens no.
I'd argue it's never been worse. There are few bright spots for me (EC3 and Gunner are solid. Yes. I legitimately enjoy Gunner).
I miss Styles like crazy.
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Post by king1836 on Apr 21, 2014 5:55:03 GMT -5
Holy shit, it sounds terrible! I haven't been able to catch much of it lately due to having to get up crazy early for work but I'm going to try to get in the thread and riff this week. It can't be that bad.....can it?
Well, let's see :
Aces and Eights is gone Hulk Hogan is gone Sting is gone the rise of EC3, Samuel Shaw, and Gunner the arrival of MVP and the Wolves Sanada as X-Division Champion the return of Kenny King Brittany the feud between Kurt Angle and Bobby Roode DJ Zema Ion Rockstar Spud
I would say BETTER.
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Post by Woo on Apr 21, 2014 6:41:55 GMT -5
Holy shit, it sounds terrible! I haven't been able to catch much of it lately due to having to get up crazy early for work but I'm going to try to get in the thread and riff this week. It can't be that bad.....can it?
Well, let's see :
Aces and Eights is gone Hulk Hogan is gone Sting is gone the rise of EC3, Samuel Shaw, and Gunner the arrival of MVP and the Wolves Sanada as X-Division Champion the return of Kenny King Brittany the feud between Kurt Angle and Bobby Roode DJ Zema Ion Rockstar Spud
I would say BETTER.
AJ Styles is gone Christopher Daniels is gone. Kazarian is gone. Austin Aries is gone. Chris Sabin is gone.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Apr 21, 2014 6:50:11 GMT -5
Well, let's see :
Aces and Eights is gone Hulk Hogan is gone Sting is gone the rise of EC3, Samuel Shaw, and Gunner the arrival of MVP and the Wolves Sanada as X-Division Champion the return of Kenny King Brittany the feud between Kurt Angle and Bobby Roode DJ Zema Ion Rockstar Spud
I would say BETTER.
AJ Styles is gone Christopher Daniels is gone. Kazarian is gone. Austin Aries is gone. Chris Sabin is gone. Isn't Aries wrestling MVP next week? How is he gone?
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Post by Woo on Apr 21, 2014 6:53:42 GMT -5
Okay I was wrong about that. I read that he wasn't being used at the moment and is possibly going or gone. Still losing Styles, Sabin, Daniels, Kaz not to mention Shelly and Jarrett is such a huge loss that almost cancels out the gain of Hogan going.
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Post by kevin on Apr 21, 2014 8:06:22 GMT -5
Okay I was wrong about that. I read that he wasn't being used at the moment and is possibly going or gone. Still losing Styles, Sabin, Daniels, Kaz not to mention Shelly and Jarrett is such a huge loss that almost cancels out the gain of Hogan going. That actually had a decent reason for Aries begin missing for so long. It was a marked improvement from how they usually treat a big name disappearing.
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Post by Snowman on Apr 21, 2014 9:44:53 GMT -5
I'm actually very surprised by the opinions here. I've really been enjoying TNA since bfg 13 and thought despite losing a lot of talent it's got a lot better. No it's not great and it has it's faults but I have found it to be pretty entertaining. Well with the exception of f***ing Gunner.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 21, 2014 10:16:08 GMT -5
I'm actually very surprised by the opinions here. I've really been enjoying TNA since bfg 13 and thought despite losing a lot of talent it's got a lot better. No it's not great and it has it's faults but I have found it to be pretty entertaining. Well with the exception of f***ing Gunner. Personally for me; I watched TNA during the good, the bad, and the ugly times of their existence. The thing that made them stand out was the wrestling. No matter how much Jeff Jarrett monopolized the main event scene and chewed the scenery. No matter the angles Russo booked that made you question life and reality. No matter how many past their prime former WWF/WCW/ECW stars showed up and got treated as the best thing ever. The wrestling made it well worth it. The problem is the level of quality wrestling dropped big time. A ton of the vets who carried the load are gone. Magnus is exposed as average without someone to help elevate his game. Samuel Shaw got his character nailed but his wrestling is still rudimentary. Gunner is Gunner. The Wolves haven't got a chance to show what they are really able to do in the ring. The Knockouts are nowhere near how they used to be. It's hard to give a real vibe off of Sanada based on his work in TNA. I would advise looking at his work in Wrestle-1 which also where the X Division title is defended. Basically if the wrestling is good to great, people are willing to overlook shortcomings.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 21, 2014 10:24:23 GMT -5
This is the most lopsided vote I've seen since Kang vs Kodos
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 12:18:41 GMT -5
It's pretty terrible. I stopped watching around mid 2010 and gave it another shot a few months ago. It's just as terrible, if not worse.
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Post by king1836 on Apr 21, 2014 12:29:54 GMT -5
Well, at least I am not alone. 2 others voted yes!
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 21, 2014 12:40:12 GMT -5
Honestly I feel that Impact, as a weekly show, has been fairly steady in terms of presentation and what have you since BFG 13. I wouldn't say "great television", but pretty enjoyable by and large. They desperately need to continue rebuilding their roster/talent base, but as of the last couple of months I've consistently gotten to see matches featuring guys like Joe, the Wolves, some of the new X-Division signings, and a few others I look forward to. If the talent roster keeps getting thinner/remains this thin going forward then we've got major problems, but for now I'm alright with it.
The problem, for me, has been when we reach PPV's and need to see angles/feuds fully executed and booked to a satisfying conclusion. BFG was an incredibly unsteady PPV with a horrendously booked main event (how hard would just having AJ beat Bully in a strong style-esque fight have been?!), Lockdown was actually a very good PPV that was ultimately sabotaged by awful booking to get Abyss involved in the title match, etc.
I tend to feel like TNA has the reverse issue that WWE typically has for me; when it comes to building up to something I tend to actually prefer TNA, by and large. When it comes to finally executing an angle's conclusion? WWE has TNA beat handily, as WM just proved. The big problem there for TNA is that it's the pay off to angles that stick with people when they're formulating their opinion on the current state of your product, and they can just seemingly never, ever commit to just giving a clean finish to main event feuds and allowing fans a moment of getting what they want with no strings attached.
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