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Post by dav on Apr 21, 2014 11:50:34 GMT -5
Guilt, followed by Doubt. I'd say incompetence, followed by self-sabotage meself. Either that or poor writing.
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Post by camsamurai06 on Apr 21, 2014 11:55:58 GMT -5
it could be argued that his toughest villain is himself... since he tends to get in his own way ... or Mephisto <_< >_> ....Ah Mephisto, otherwise known as Joe Quesada. Not to mention his hack surpremo cohort Dan Slott, the man who can single-handidly make Howard Mackie, and the geniuses behind The Clone Saga look like the sharpest tools in the shed
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 21, 2014 17:09:09 GMT -5
Wait, wait, wait. I can't believe we all forgot Spidey's toughest villian! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 17:33:45 GMT -5
That's a cute outfit, I wonder if his husband made it for him.
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Post by Cela on Apr 21, 2014 17:36:30 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them.
Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form.
One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 21, 2014 17:42:02 GMT -5
I'm sure someone beat me to the joke, but J. Michael Straczynski and Joe Queseda.
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Post by hossfan on Apr 21, 2014 17:47:18 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them. Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form. One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down. Spidey's smarter and faster than both of them. Usually the way it would go was he'd wear Sandman or Hydroman down (it took effort for both guys to maintain their corporal forms) and then figure out some way to either disperse or contain them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 21, 2014 17:49:25 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them. Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form. One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down. Spidey's smarter and faster than both of them. Usually the way it would go was he'd wear Sandman or Hydroman down (it took effort for both guys to maintain their corporal forms) and then figure out some way to either disperse or contain them. Yeah this.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 17:58:43 GMT -5
A bag of Quikrete would f*** up Hydro Man's world. Water, heat, a damned Dustbuster could do the same to Sandman. Pete could easily design some web shooters as necessary, or hell if all else fails, he could just escape by swinging away.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 21, 2014 18:10:03 GMT -5
A bag of Quikrete would f*** up Hydro Man's world. or take a page from darkwing duck and turn him into Jell-o
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 18:14:20 GMT -5
A bag of Quikrete would f*** up Hydro Man's world. or take a page from darkwing duck and turn him into Jell-o That'd be pretty dangerous. I don't know if Pete would go that far. Maybe Ben Reilly would.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 18:31:48 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them. Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form. One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down. I remember Hydro Man being damn near a god when he was first introduced in the animated series. I was legit upset as a kid at how it seemed like Spidey initially had no chance against him.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Apr 21, 2014 20:07:32 GMT -5
One of my fondest memories from the 90s is when Doc Ock turned Sandman to glass and then shattered him into peices with his tentacles. A few issues later Sandman pulls himself together, still looking shaken and shattered and basicly tears through Ock while retaining a rather jagged razor-sharp form. Brutal. I still have that set of comics in my possession. Think its time for a re-read soon.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 20:27:46 GMT -5
There's an Avengers West Coast issue from the mid 90s where Hydro Man gets super smart (I think due to Loki) and straight up kills several Avengers. Then at the end of the issue it's revealed that it's an alternate timeline that Immortus is eliminating. Good read, I highly recommend checking it out from the back issue bins. Don't remember the issue number, but Deluge is the title of the story.
Point of this trip down memory lane-- Hydro Man would be dangerous as hell, if he wasn't a total dumbass.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Apr 21, 2014 22:30:14 GMT -5
A bag of Quikrete would f*** up Hydro Man's world. Water, heat, a damned Dustbuster could do the same to Sandman. Pete could easily design some web shooters as necessary, or hell if all else fails, he could just escape by swinging away. Spider-Man has actually used a vacuum on Sandman
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 22:32:19 GMT -5
I know, a Dustbuster reference just seemed funnier.
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Post by Goldenbane on Apr 21, 2014 23:26:36 GMT -5
There's an Avengers West Coast issue from the mid 90s where Hydro Man gets super smart (I think due to Loki) and straight up kills several Avengers. Then at the end of the issue it's revealed that it's an alternate timeline that Immortus is eliminating. Good read, I highly recommend checking it out from the back issue bins. Don't remember the issue number, but Deluge is the title of the story. Point of this trip down memory lane-- Hydro Man would be dangerous as hell, if he wasn't a total dumbass. I know it's cliche' to say, but if 90% of the Spidey villains weren't total dumbasses, they wouldn't be criminals in the first place and probably be wealthy beyond their wildest dreams. Hydo-Man, Electro, Spot, Rhino...every one of these guys could do themselves a huge favor if they weren't criminals and used their powers for more interesting purposes.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 21, 2014 23:29:25 GMT -5
Oh totally, but one could make the argument that that's their major flaw is that they either can't see that, can't do anything about it, or sorta like Flash's Rogues, this is what they want outta life.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 22, 2014 0:31:11 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them. Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form. One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down. Like people have been saying, if they weren't idiots, there's no way Spidey should beat them ever, they're the villain versions of Iceman, having untapped almost God level powers. Hell, if he wants to be rich, Sandman should move to the middle east, got the desert to help him out and all the oil and money from that out there. Hydro Man, you're taking on 70% of the world's surface, Iceman should be about the only person able to beat him.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Apr 22, 2014 5:08:18 GMT -5
Sand Man and Hydro Man were two villains I never really got how Spidey could actually beat them. Yes, comics wrote this out, but in a one on one fight in some warehouse, How the hell are you supposed to beat something that feels no pain and has no form. One of the Marvel Zombies issues had Sandman stop f***ing around and just murder Spidey, that's how I always saw the fight going down. Like people have been saying, if they weren't idiots, there's no way Spidey should beat them ever, they're the villain versions of Iceman, having untapped almost God level powers. Hell, if he wants to be rich, Sandman should move to the middle east, got the desert to help him out and all the oil and money from that out there. Hydro Man, you're taking on 70% of the world's surface, Iceman should be about the only person able to beat him. Or the Human Torch, The Ultimate Spider-Man Cartoon did something interesting about Sandman they figured one way to contain him stick him on his own island that was uninhabited
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