Burst
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Post by Burst on Apr 26, 2014 8:07:07 GMT -5
What with Warrior's death a few weeks behind, and his cause of death being officially declared a massive heart attack pretty much like Macho Man's, that's yet another on the list of dead wrestlers from that generation. That being said, is there really any cutoff year where we say wrestlers after this point don't have to worry about dying of heart disease in their 50s?
I feel like it would almost have to be the tail end of the Attitude Era or the Ruthless Aggression era (in terms of superstars debuting) just because before that you still had the definite juicing and recreational drug use. Not saying that it still doesn't happen, just not to nearly the magnitude of the late 80s wrestlers, for example. Pretty much since everything about steroids and whatnot came out, I'd like to -think- that the risk of that sort of heart disease decreases, but then again the touring schedules haven't gotten a whole much better even as the work style has, so who knows how much the stress and burnout from that contributes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 8:16:56 GMT -5
It depends a lot on when they wrestled, and what they do/didn't do. Warrior was juicing for years. All that time injecting anabolic steroids into your body causes long-term damage that we're not even fully certain of.
Someone like Punk or Bryan, on the other hand, will probably going to live a long time since they don't do any drugs (and in Punk's case, doesn't drink, I have no clue if Bryan is a teetotaler or not).
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Post by paulbearer on Apr 26, 2014 9:30:54 GMT -5
Arnold is still alive at 67......
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 26, 2014 9:41:49 GMT -5
It all depends on the person. Superstar Graham was one the early forebears on the juiced look and he's still alive. Granted he has a ton of health issues stemming from his massive steroid use, he still on this mortal coil. Lyle Alzado died of brain cancer from his years of steroid use. So just because you use(d) steroids means you're going to die early. It just doesn't help out your odds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 10:44:57 GMT -5
Predicting mortality is impossible. You could being doing everything right from living a healthy lifestyle, with a stress free happy job with no financial stresses and living the good life and the what not. But then there is that one thing you haven't been doing nothing right and you're not doing right like say you're not brushing your teeth hard enough which causes you to get a heart attack before you turn 50 and The Ambulance didn't arrive in time to save you.
Or you could be like f***ing Lemmy who refuses to eat his fruit and veggies the moment he turned into an adult, diabetic, drinks a bottle of Jack every day, heavy chain smoker, and will probably live till 100.
But shit if Hogan dies then it's truly an end of a era that the biggest 3 names of the 80's have passed away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 12:13:57 GMT -5
There so many variables that play into these things. In addition to roids and cocaine back in the day Warrior had a family history of heart troubles, Macho was wound so tightly that I'd be surprised if he didn't have hypertension just due to how intense that he was about everything, etc.
I'm sure that there is still a majority of the locker room on some sort of muscle builders/PED's, even with the physiques toned down it's still really difficult to stay in that kind of shape with the non-stop touring once you're into your 30's and older. The good thing about wellness is that I'd be sure that they take heart issues and things of that nature very seriously in their screenings, even if the actual drug testing part is still suspect.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 26, 2014 15:35:38 GMT -5
Depressingly it really seems like Warrior died surprisingly old for a wrestler. Most of the young deaths seem to be guys whose main success was in the mid to late 90s, a.k.a. when there were suddenly dozens more shows per year, much bigger business, and unsafe working conditions that have only relatively recently been remedied.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Apr 26, 2014 15:45:24 GMT -5
Arnold is still alive at 67...... Yes, but not without pretty significant heart troubles. |
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mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 26, 2014 15:49:26 GMT -5
I think it's a different environment now with the drug policies enforced and the knowledge of so many lost lives through the years. At least. I certainly hope so.
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Post by keezy on Apr 26, 2014 21:47:59 GMT -5
Arnold is still alive at 67...... Yes, but not without pretty significant heart troubles. Which isn't uncommon for someone that age. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Apr 26, 2014 21:56:08 GMT -5
Hard to throw Warrior in the camp of guys gone too soon by their own hand when you remember both his grandfather and father died around the same age because of heart issues. You cannot escape things like that.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Apr 26, 2014 22:10:22 GMT -5
Yes, but not without pretty significant heart troubles. Which isn't uncommon for someone that age. And to further discredit my own statement, it's also seemingly apparent that his problems were genetic in nature upon a little further research. I clearly remembered my facts wrong.  |
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Post by Reflecto on Apr 26, 2014 23:42:45 GMT -5
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Post by rapidfire187 on Apr 27, 2014 15:43:55 GMT -5
I think wrestlers that debuted after 2007 or 2008 MIGHT be the ones that are the safest. There's been a few deaths from wrestlers that debuted in the 2000's like Lance Cade and Umaga for instance, who both died VERY young.
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Post by kidglov3s on Apr 27, 2014 15:50:30 GMT -5
I think wrestlers that debuted after 2007 or 2008 MIGHT be the ones that are the safest. There's been a few deaths from wrestlers that debuted in the 2000's like Lance Cade and Umaga for instance, who both died VERY young. Maybe but even now I mean you know there's still guys using PEDs and other drugs (prescribed or otherwise, this business is too punishing and aesthetically demanding), and the actual wrestling has in a lot of ways become more physical. I think there's no way around the fact that pro wrestling is super hazardous to your health (both physical and emotional). |
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 27, 2014 17:19:10 GMT -5
It's also important to note that the style espoused may also have contributed: CBC's _The Fifth Estate_ stated, in its story "Fight to the Death," that the average age at death of pro wrestlers working for Stampede Wrestling was 41. Combining the stiff working style in Calgary (strongly influenced by Japanese and European promotions with whom Stampede Wrestling regularly did talent exchanges) with the myriad ways throughout its heyday for wrestlers to cope with the pain and injuries, one is hard-pressed to find such a confluence of both brilliance and tragedy anywhere else in pro wrestling.
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