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Post by Mayonnaise on May 13, 2014 0:18:26 GMT -5
You guys are all suggesting this intern champion is a great idea but just wait until we get hero of Mexico Alberto Del Rio as the world champ again. But in all seriousness who do you put the intern belt on? I think it will be dumb to put it on a new guy who never had a run at the top before (Cesaro/Bray/Shield get thrown out) and the person you put the intern belt on needs to have the star power to hang with Bryan in a main event slot. So....Cena? Well, there is this one big, burly sumbitch that if memory serves did something historic at Wrestlemania and could put up an amazing challenge for a guy returning from neck surgery.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 13, 2014 0:19:37 GMT -5
The latest hotline from PWInsider just posted tonight says they think he'll be out 6-8 weeks and that as long as there are no complications with the surgery, he'll stay champion and likely return at SummerSlam. I could see an angle where the Authority tries to strip Bryan of the belts, only to be vetoed by Vince or whomever, which could lead to that rumored power struggle angle in July. Or something. I swear, that angle has been rumoured since LAST July...
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 13, 2014 0:21:09 GMT -5
You guys are all suggesting this intern champion is a great idea but just wait until we get hero of Mexico Alberto Del Rio as the world champ again. But in all seriousness who do you put the intern belt on? I think it will be dumb to put it on a new guy who never had a run at the top before (Cesaro/Bray/Shield get thrown out) and the person you put the intern belt on needs to have the star power to hang with Bryan in a main event slot. So....Cena? Well, there is this one big, burly sumbitch that if memory serves did something historic at Wrestlemania and could put up an amazing challenge for a guy returning from neck surgery. Yeah, Big Show really does deserve another run on top for being the first ever runner-up in the legendary Andre the Giant Battle Royal!
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Post by slappy on May 13, 2014 0:22:23 GMT -5
Sheamus vs Bad News Barrett for the title at Payback.
Whoever wins becomes champion but must forfeit their current title.
Triple H helps Sheamus win the title.
Turns Sheamus heel, gives Evolution a new member for when Batista is gone and will let the Authority still feud with Bryan when he gets back.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on May 13, 2014 0:23:53 GMT -5
You guys are all suggesting this intern champion is a great idea but just wait until we get hero of Mexico Alberto Del Rio as the world champ again. But in all seriousness who do you put the intern belt on? I think it will be dumb to put it on a new guy who never had a run at the top before (Cesaro/Bray/Shield get thrown out) and the person you put the intern belt on needs to have the star power to hang with Bryan in a main event slot. So....Cena? No way. Cena's stale as shit in that role. And that story has been told already. Bray Wyatt is the answer. Hell, I wouldn't even be opposed to Bray actually unifying it at Summer Slam by nefarious means, if it led to a grander story of this evil motherf***er getting chased by guys like Bryan, Cena and eventually Reigns if he remains white hot. WWE needs an actual new, super-pushed heel WWE Champion established who's not someone who's friends with HHH, handpicked by him, or passes him the talcum powder at the gym. Expand Wyatt's family. Have faces chase. That'd be my formula. Wyatt wants to turn the world on its ear. Start with the World Title.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on May 13, 2014 0:25:11 GMT -5
You guys are all suggesting this intern champion is a great idea but just wait until we get hero of Mexico Alberto Del Rio as the world champ again. But in all seriousness who do you put the intern belt on? I think it will be dumb to put it on a new guy who never had a run at the top before (Cesaro/Bray/Shield get thrown out) and the person you put the intern belt on needs to have the star power to hang with Bryan in a main event slot. So....Cena? Well, there is this one big, burly sumbitch that if memory serves did something historic at Wrestlemania and could put up an amazing challenge for a guy returning from neck surgery. Would you actually put this beast, whose entire character is based on the fact that he pounds the shit out of people "for realsies unlike all these fake wrestlers" against someone who just came back from neck surgery?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 0:25:55 GMT -5
Just let Daniel Bryan pick somebody to defend the belt for him while he's out. And then have that person be Brad Maddox and have it be the start of the most unprecedented rise to greatness in wrestling.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 13, 2014 0:26:53 GMT -5
I just realized that WWE can promote Bryan as the Bionic Goat now.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 13, 2014 0:28:08 GMT -5
Well, there is this one big, burly sumbitch that if memory serves did something historic at Wrestlemania and could put up an amazing challenge for a guy returning from neck surgery. Would you actually put this beast, whose entire character is based on the fact that he pounds the shit out of people up "for realsies unlike all these fake wrestlers" against someone who just came back from neck surgery? Yes. Yes I would. Perfect story for Bryan to return on and it is not like Lesnar is going to shoot on Bryan or anything. Only other person I'd go with is Bray but he'd have to walk out as the champ and I am not sold on Bryan losing the return.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on May 13, 2014 0:29:55 GMT -5
Yeah, you know what, I know there's question marks, but I say this is tailor made for A Brock/Bryan showdown at Summerslam. There's three PPVS between now and Summerslam. Brock wins the interim title at Payback (triple threat with Batista and Orton? Brock, although not face would be a defacto face in the match at Chicago), then have a Multi- Man Money in the Bank match for #1 Contendership at MITB PPV, that Cena wins, Brock defends the title against Cena at Battleground, beats him.
Bryan comes back the night after Battleground, challenges Brock for Summerslam and beats him in the main event to re-unify the belts.
Brock though on a part-time schedule has the credibility to be a champion. The belt would gain prestige as it would only be defended at PPVs, and Brock doesn't care about dropping the belt as long as the payday is worth the trouble, and a Bryan/Brock Summerslam would likely do damn good buys because it has become sort of a dream match to fans I think.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on May 13, 2014 0:33:22 GMT -5
Yeah, you know what, I know there's definite drawbacks, but I say this is tailor made for A Brock/Bryan showdown at Summerslam. There's three PPVS between now and Summerslam. Brock wins the interim title at Payback (triple threat with Batista and Orton? Brock, although not face would be a defacto face in the match at Chicago), then have a Multi- Man Money in the Bank match for #1 Contendership at MITB PPV, that Cena wins, Brock defends the title against Cena at Battleground, beats him. Bryan comes back the night after Battleground, challenges Brock for Summerslam and beats him in the main event to re-unify the belts. Brock though on a part-time schedule has the credibility to be a champion. The belt would gain prestige as it would only be defended at PPVs, and Brock doesn't care about dropping the belt as long as the payday is worth the trouble, and a Bryan/Brock Summerslam would likely do damn good buys because it has become sort of a dream match to fans I think. I like this idea even better.
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Post by Chuck Conry on May 13, 2014 0:34:02 GMT -5
What works in MMA won't work here. As was mentioned it is a fake title anyway right? So why would you think an MMA thing which is legit would have the same effect when done in WWE? Hell, just vacate it. Bryan has just a big of claim to it when he comes back as he would to go the whole split linage route.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on May 13, 2014 0:42:24 GMT -5
What works in MMA won't work here. As was mentioned it is a fake title anyway right? So why would you think an MMA thing which is legit would have the same effect when done in WWE? Hell, just vacate it. Bryan has just a big of claim to it when he comes back as he would to go the whole split linage route. Because it's more realistic. WWE needs to borrow some of the things that work from MMA (and discard those that don't), the same way MMA has borrowed the things that worked in wrestling. MMA fans and wrestling fans always get so territorial and pissy about each other without realizing that they share many similarities -- only WWE has the advantage of scripting the right finish and booking amazing matches. At the end of the day, rivalries, trash talk and revenge drive each sport and is what sells matches, real or fake result be damned.
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Post by Sparkybob on May 13, 2014 0:43:00 GMT -5
You guys are all suggesting this intern champion is a great idea but just wait until we get hero of Mexico Alberto Del Rio as the world champ again. But in all seriousness who do you put the intern belt on? I think it will be dumb to put it on a new guy who never had a run at the top before (Cesaro/Bray/Shield get thrown out) and the person you put the intern belt on needs to have the star power to hang with Bryan in a main event slot. So....Cena? No way. Cena's stale as shit in that role. And that story has been told already. Bray Wyatt is the answer. Hell, I wouldn't even be opposed to Bray actually unifying it at Summer Slam by nefarious means, if it led to a grander story of this evil motherf***er getting chased by guys like Bryan, Cena and eventually Reigns if he remains white hot. WWE needs an actual new, super-pushed heel WWE Champion established who's not someone who's friends with HHH, handpicked by him, or passes him the talcum powder at the gym. Expand Wyatt's family. Have faces chase. That'd be my formula. Wyatt wants to turn the world on its ear. Start with the World Title. I don't disagree with the general idea, it's just my philosophy has always been you want the first legit world title reign for a top star in the making to be one where he gets made for life. I always felt it's the first title win that you can milk the most money out of in a top star's career.(Give or take a few very hot title programs but it's general one of the bigger money making wins for the company) so having the first time Bray wins the belt have that cloud that he isn't even the true champion kinda dampers that important moment you know? Like if Bray beats Bryan to unify it might resolve some of those issues I have, but it still isn't that grand of a moment for Bray where I and I think others won't view Bray as the top guy. Brock Lesnar killing the Rock to win the belt sent a message to everybody that Brock was the real deal and I think Bray, if the WWE is as high as him as it seems, deserves that type of moment of absolutism where everybody knows we are f***** cause Bray won the world title and is the top dog. Champion for the time being doesn't seem like a big enough deal to me for Bray's first visual as the champion. And even for other potential guys, I feel the best intern champs are guys the WWE is murkier on about how big of a star they will be (Cody, Bad News Barrett, Dolph Ziggler) guys like that or basically Sheamus who needed the boost and basically can hang with Bryan in a big match. Guys like Cesaro, Shield guys are the long term guys for the WWE and I'll feel it will be disappointing that their first official world title run comes as not even being the true champion but rather a place holder. Give the place holder title reign if you are going to do it to guys who the WWE feels need to solidify their spot in the future, or former main eventers who can use a boost up. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 13, 2014 0:46:43 GMT -5
What works in MMA won't work here. As was mentioned it is a fake title anyway right? So why would you think an MMA thing which is legit would have the same effect when done in WWE? Hell, just vacate it. Bryan has just a big of claim to it when he comes back as he would to go the whole split linage route. If you just vacate the title, Bryan's return isn't about the title but going after Kane and the Authority for screwing him over once again and we go right back to them screwing over Bryan and doing whatever to him because they're targeting each other yet again. At least if you do this, Bryan is guaranteed to come back into the title picture.
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Post by deancubed on May 13, 2014 0:53:15 GMT -5
The BEST time for Bray Wyatt to win the title would be when we won't be sure when our hero will come back to save the day. Like when Joker takes over Gotham, we will be crossing our fingers for Bryan every single RAW, lighting that bat-signal. And things get worse and worse under a Wyatt reign of terror. Then finally when it looks darkest - after Wyatt has beaten Cena, Kane, Sheamus, whoever, then that music hits and everyone yells "YES! IT'S THE GODDAMN BATMAN!"
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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 13, 2014 3:54:42 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman and I am the advocate for the man who made history at Wrestlemania 30. My client, Brock Lesnar, ENDED the Undertaker's undefeated streak.
With our reigning Champion out for an as yet undetermined amount of time, I have had several meetings with WWE personnel and with the Champion himself. It was decided that a surrogate champion will defend the WWE heavyweight championship at Payback against the Demon Kane. Please join me in welcoming your interim WWE World Heavyweight Champion
*Look in my eyes...*
CM Punk!
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 13, 2014 4:41:14 GMT -5
I just realised this means he's not going to be at Raw next week when I'm there.
f*** YOU NECK INJURIES
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 13, 2014 5:27:56 GMT -5
Interim belt worked out pretty well for Shawn/Razor at Mania X.
Granted, semantically the setup was different, but the endgame was the same.
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Post by 543Y2J on May 13, 2014 5:29:17 GMT -5
This news is still saddening me This along with Community being canceled doesn't make me a happy chap at the moment. I just feel terrible for Bryan after the past month he has had and now this, and we go through it with him because of that connection. It feels like he has lost everything since getting to the top of the mountain after fighting so hard to get there, its heartbreaking. He will be an even stronger person after all this and hopefully when he comes back he will be 100% healthy and be able to rightfully defend his place on top. I need them to sign Devitt/KENTA asap and have them both confirmed as passing the health tests, because it would be nice to have some good news at the moment. Interim belt worked out pretty well for Shawn/Razor at Mania X. Granted, semantically the setup was different, but the endgame was the same. I would love a ladder match between Cesaro and Bryan to decide the "true champion" would be a classic
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