the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on May 17, 2014 13:21:40 GMT -5
I watched this on WWE Network, and I was completely blown away by it. I don't think I have ever seen a Hacksaw match as good as this one was, and I was surprised to see just how much of the match he had Vader on the defensive. I know he has his reputation, but he really surprised me here.
If there was one thing that took away from the match at all, it was the very ending with the 2X4 getting involved, but that's a very minor thing in what was a great opener for what was WCW's signature event.
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Post by ________ has left the building on May 17, 2014 13:33:06 GMT -5
Duggan could go if you ever watched his old Mid-South work. Just he got pigeon holed into the 2x4 wielding, USA chanting cartoon role and that role stuck with him. Same like the Bushwackers.
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the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on May 17, 2014 13:39:17 GMT -5
Is his Mid-South stuff on the WWE Network?
I liked what I saw from him in this match, and like when I'm proven wrong about someone.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 17, 2014 15:37:52 GMT -5
Duggan either got discouraged or lazy during his early WWF days, and being confined by their style didn't help. Dude was never going to be Thesz but pre-WWF he certainly had the air of a no-nonsense, straight-ahead ass-kicker. Even when he did break out the 2x4 in Mid-South (and to be honest, Watts did it more often), it wasn't every match and you knew seeing him walking out with it that he meant business and somebody was probably going to the hospital.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on May 17, 2014 15:46:18 GMT -5
I never got the 2x4 association... was it because he was like the guy from Walking Tall?
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 17, 2014 16:32:10 GMT -5
Yep. It was something Bill Watts started in Mid-South, and was very much taken from those films. Again, it wasn't a prop they carried out for every match and was usually reserved for run-ins to attack a heel or make a save, and when they came out with it, it was a sign shit just got real.
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Post by fw91 on May 17, 2014 17:51:22 GMT -5
the hell did brutus ever main event a starrcade?
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Post by TGM on May 17, 2014 18:38:44 GMT -5
I've only ever seen Duggan as the goofy flag waving fun guy, but he always looked like a real tough guy brawler.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 17, 2014 21:01:51 GMT -5
Actually if you watch a lot of Duggan's stuff from his first year or two in WCW he looked surprisingly motivated for that point in his career and was really working hard at the time. He was definitely trying to prove something to somebody.
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Post by Jiren on May 17, 2014 21:32:58 GMT -5
Decent match shame about the rest of that dungheap of a PPV
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Post by Mac on May 17, 2014 22:32:10 GMT -5
Duggan could go. He was a great hardnosed technical brawler in Mid-South who just turned into a guy who looked like he was removed from a mental institution and had a hard on for America. He wrestled the same way.
Cant really argue with the WWF logic, Duggan was pretty huge for a few years
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on May 17, 2014 22:48:07 GMT -5
His stuff with Andre wasn't bad at all. I think the USA stuff started in Mid South in a feud with Skandar Akbar's Devastation Incorporated wasn't it? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5460WPcGJM |
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on May 17, 2014 23:25:44 GMT -5
I always had a soft spot for ol' Jim Duggan, even as a kid. The guy wasn't the worst wrestler in the world as some people probably have said. The guy was a great brawler wrestler.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on May 18, 2014 0:09:21 GMT -5
Duggan either got discouraged or lazy during his early WWF days, and being confined by their style didn't help. Dude was never going to be Thesz but pre-WWF he certainly had the air of a no-nonsense, straight-ahead ass-kicker. Even when he did break out the 2x4 in Mid-South (and to be honest, Watts did it more often), it wasn't every match and you knew seeing him walking out with it that he meant business and somebody was probably going to the hospital. How about Duggan as the Arn Anderson-esque heel in the Rat Pack, with DiBiase as the Ric Flair-like leader? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 16:22:12 GMT -5
Yep. It was something Bill Watts started in Mid-South, and was very much taken from those films. Again, it wasn't a prop they carried out for every match and was usually reserved for run-ins to attack a heel or make a save, and when they came out with it, it was a sign shit just got real. It's odd to think that the 2x4 was once Hacksaw's version of Sledgie. We're never going to see Rusev snap Sledgie over his knee. |
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Post by HMARK Center on May 21, 2014 16:29:59 GMT -5
Actually if you watch a lot of Duggan's stuff from his first year or two in WCW he looked surprisingly motivated for that point in his career and was really working hard at the time. He was definitely trying to prove something to somebody. It seemed a couple of the guys who left or were let go from WWF at the kick off of the New Generation era went to WCW with something to prove; WCW really could've used to that to its advantage more than it did. |
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