Has Cena set a bad example re: injuries?

[Burst]

Just been thinking about this lately particularly in regards to the newz about Dolph's status and also about the management of Bryan and his recovery.

We all know Cena's a workaholic who would come back from losing a limb before the stitches were healed, but it's like his insane ability to seemingly come back fully recovered in a fourth of the time that the doctors estimate is being forced onto other guys, or at least 'encouraged'. Even if it isn't explicitly I get the sense that people are sort of forcing themselves to rush through recoveries particularly for fear of getting Evan Bourne'd as well.

I just can't help but feel like this is going to backfire eventually either with everything catching up to Cena or with somebody trying to come back from injury early and only hurting themselves further. I just hope it doesn't take something like a Jesse Sorenson or God forbid, a Misawa type situation for someone to put their foot down regarding injuries and proper recoveries.

[Beast Army Ass]

Yes.

Specifically, I find it hard to bolieve that Daniel Bryan's current story wasn't slapped together under the hope that he'd be back in action right after his surgery. They dragged their feet until they had to face facts that - GASP! - he's human. Should've just stripped him, given him as much time as needed to get back to 100%, and gone from there. Instead they put out a poor story due to wishy-washy-ness and are supposedly pressuring him to come back even now before he's ready.

Dumb as hell and I agree in hoping that it doesn't result in something tragic.

[The Beast Disincarnate]

Yes I think so.

Doctor says a guy needs a 6 months recovery... "HOW COME YOU DON'T COME BACK IN 3 MONTHS YOU IDIOT" - Vince Mc Mahon.

[OldDirtyBernie]

I hate to be Mr C-o-n-Spiracy, but one has to at least wonder if someone has fudged the ETA for Cena's returns to make it look like he's coming back in an amazing amount of time BECAUSE they want to put pressure on talent to return ASAP.

[Professor Chaos]

No mere mortal can compete with the healing powers of the Prototype.

[Amazing Kitsune]

Hacksaw Jim Duggan probably really doesn't like how he helps kids either. So that's two strikes against him.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Jun 16, 2014 12:26:16 GMT -5 Beast Army Ass said:

Yes.

Specifically, I find it hard to bolieve that Daniel Bryan's current story wasn't slapped together under the hope that he'd be back in action right after his surgery. They dragged their feet until they had to face facts that - GASP! - he's human. Should've just stripped him, given him as much time as needed to get back to 100%, and gone from there. Instead they put out a poor story due to wishy-washy-ness and are supposedly pressuring him to come back even now before he's ready.

Dumb as hell and I agree in hoping that it doesn't result in something tragic.

Who the hell knows exactly what the right time is and that's why doctor's give time tables. He could have been healthy in time for MITB or not and it would have been in the time table. Let's not act like it was some pie in the sky wish to get him back a month early. DB had a set back.

[Burst]

^ I guess it's more of the sense that anymore, when someone has a setback or something that's really out of their control, it's like it's THEIR fault and instead of accepting that sometimes it just happens, workers are punished for not healing in the shortest time possible.

[RIHT]

I think it's ironic how WWE wants to be safer and they ban super spots, riskier moves, and chair shots to the head, yet they let guys like Cena return from actual injuries months before full recovery (or even half recovery) and expected Daniel Bryan to return about a month after neck surgery.

[Andrew is Good]

Cena has also disobeyed doctor's orders, at least that's what he's said. I remember seeing some video where he had surgery, and he was told not to hit the weights, but did so anyway. What he did was interesting though, I think it was a triceps injury, so what he did was he put a set of plates on a barbell and instead of doing a bench press, he just extended his arms and pushed the bar off the rack and only did small pushes from the rack to where his elbows fully extended. He was attempting to heal up quicker by doing that.

One fear and accusation that Cena has probably had thrown his way was steroids, and the idea of using them for recover purposes, which could be prescribed legally by a doctor I'm guessing and it's not like there's no reason for them.

That said, Bryan also is having nerve issues, and Dolph is having concussion issues. Dolph and Bryan also work a pretty intense style, and Cena is a lot safer then Dolph and Bryan, though their matches are arguably better. Christian was mentioned in that post before, and he went through the same stuff Edge did, so it's not like it's ridiculous that Christian would start having a lot more injuries as he's getting older.

One fear with Cena though is, when does the shit hit the fan with him coming back. What if he gets hurt, comes back from injury too soon, and then really f***s himself up. But yeah, this attitude with injuries is rough on WWE's part. Fandango was supposed to get the IC title (at least that was the rumour) before he was pulled from the match and Curtis Axel got it. Of course, Dolph Ziggler was the World Heavyweight Champion and then got boot f***ed by Jack Swagger and it pretty much has been down hill ever since.

[A Platypus Rave]

Jun 16, 2014 13:26:30 GMT -5 RIHT said:

I think it's ironic how WWE wants to be safer and they ban super spots, riskier moves, and chair shots to the head, yet they let guys like Cena return from actual injuries months before full recovery (or even half recovery) and expected Daniel Bryan to return about a month after neck surgery.

The time table for Bryan was like 6 weeks.

So they were following what the doctors time table for him but he had a set back.

It's not like he had spinal fusion and the doctor said it would take at least 12 months recovery time and the WWE decided that a month is good enough.

[RIHT]

Jun 16, 2014 13:38:53 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Jun 16, 2014 13:26:30 GMT -5 RIHT said:

I think it's ironic how WWE wants to be safer and they ban super spots, riskier moves, and chair shots to the head, yet they let guys like Cena return from actual injuries months before full recovery (or even half recovery) and expected Daniel Bryan to return about a month after neck surgery.

The time table for Bryan was like 6 weeks.

So they were following what the doctors time table for him but he had a set back.

It's not like he had spinal fusion and the doctor said it would take at least 12 months recovery time and the WWE decided that a month is good enough.

Still, all the "newz" mentioned how much pressure was on Bryan to return and whatnot, so specifics aside, I was trying to convey that point.

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I don't see anything to indicate they expected Bryan to come back early.

They weren't quite sure exactly how long he'd be out so they were leaving loopholes to bring him back if it turned out he could come back early.

Now they've realized 'Yes, he's going to need to be off for a while' and have adjusted accordingly.

If I were Vince I would have handled it in similar fashion.

[héad.casé]

I think it's also that Vince is a massive workaholic himself and expects everyone who works for him to have that same attitude. He's told Jim Ross many times that 'Sleep is for the weak'. Hell, when Vince tore both his quads in January 2005, he showed up on RAW in late April or May walking. He's a maniac.

[Chip]

Yeah, I think he has but I also think WWE is partially to blame. I think they intentionally make out that his injuries will take longer to heal then they were told so he looks super-human when he comes back. I remember sometime ago now both Cena and Sheamus were injured (much to the dismay of the IWC) and both were given 4-6 months of recovery time. I'm pretty sure Cena came back after a month and my first reaction to hearing Brappledough was "way to shit all over Sheamus, John". In the end, it'll either all backfire on WWE or Cena's limbs will just pop off one day mid-match.

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I attended a show where Cena announced that he had f***ed up his arm and would be gone for a while.


He was back on TV within like a month

[sybaku]

Jun 16, 2014 15:42:28 GMT -5 @graant said:

I attended a show where Cena announced that he had f***ed up his arm and would be gone for a while.


He was back on TV within like a month

Wasn't that after the Lesnar match? And he was back literally the next night on Raw?

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Jun 16, 2014 13:38:53 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Jun 16, 2014 13:26:30 GMT -5 RIHT said:

I think it's ironic how WWE wants to be safer and they ban super spots, riskier moves, and chair shots to the head, yet they let guys like Cena return from actual injuries months before full recovery (or even half recovery) and expected Daniel Bryan to return about a month after neck surgery.

The time table for Bryan was like 6 weeks.

So they were following what the doctors time table for him but he had a set back.

It's not like he had spinal fusion and the doctor said it would take at least 12 months recovery time and the WWE decided that a month is good enough.

It feels so weird to blame Cena for any of this.

[blackmegaman]

I say Cena still hasn't topped Angle in the "Back to soon after injury" game.

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Jun 16, 2014 16:51:00 GMT -5 sybaku said:

Jun 16, 2014 15:42:28 GMT -5 @graant said:

I attended a show where Cena announced that he had f***ed up his arm and would be gone for a while.


He was back on TV within like a month

Wasn't that after the Lesnar match? And he was back literally the next night on Raw?

It was after Summerslam last year where he had the wonky arm with the baseball growing out of it