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Post by Instant Classic on Jun 23, 2014 17:14:30 GMT -5
Del Rio should at least be the top midcard guy.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 23, 2014 17:31:53 GMT -5
I don't feel that bad for him. Yeah, the booking hasn't helped, but you look at how over Dolph Ziggler still is and you realize that booking isn't everything. If ADR had the ability to connect with the audience, he could overcome the stale booking. Dolph does. Also, Big Show and Kane have remained over despite 15 years of some of the worst booking ever.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Jun 23, 2014 17:48:20 GMT -5
I think the crowd would really get behind him if he changed his name to "Albert From The River".
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Post by Dub H on Jun 23, 2014 18:11:04 GMT -5
I feel worse for guys like Dolph,Swagger,MVP,Ryback,Goldust ,etc. People that proved that proved theyc na get much better reactiosn than Del Rio when given the spot and yet are cut down for no reason or having the momentum COMPLETELY destroyed and shoved down the card.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 18:17:01 GMT -5
ADR doesnt deserve the hate he is getting. Vince is the one who is telling him what to say and do. Viva ADR!! That's such a cop-out argument, in that case no wrestler should get any praise or criticism, ever.
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Post by Chip on Jun 23, 2014 18:21:36 GMT -5
Some people need to accept the fact that Del Rio is simply not a good performer. If Cody can get over by putting lipstick on and checking himself in a mirror, and Ziggler can get over by being Vickie's bitch, then Del Rio has no excuse. He's a good wrestler and a meh performer. HEY!... it was lip gloss.
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Post by King Bebe on Jun 23, 2014 19:14:21 GMT -5
I've been saying this for ages. Del Rio isn't shit, it's his booking that's shit.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 23, 2014 19:28:29 GMT -5
Del Rio should at least be the top midcard guy. Yeah. I'd love to see an IC Title picture consisting of Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz, Barrett and Sheamus
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Post by Dub H on Jun 23, 2014 19:36:56 GMT -5
I've been saying this for ages. Del Rio isn't shit, it's his booking that's shit. Nope,just sucks. I will nto say Del Rio Booking was all butterflies.But he has f***ing amazing Booking at same time,that he did not capitalize Other wrestlers have made much more with much less and worse given.I'm always up to blaming the WWE direction but Del Rio is as much to blame.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jun 23, 2014 19:49:19 GMT -5
Del Rio should at least be the top midcard guy. Yeah. I'd love to see an IC Title picture consisting of Del Rio, Ziggler, Miz, Barrett and Sheamus Same have the US title be more of a up and coming mid card title, where the IC title is for bigger stars.
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Post by King Bebe on Jun 23, 2014 20:16:54 GMT -5
I've been saying this for ages. Del Rio isn't shit, it's his booking that's shit. Nope,just sucks. I will nto say Del Rio Booking was all butterflies.But he has f***ing amazing Booking at same time,that he did not capitalize Other wrestlers have made much more with much less and worse given.I'm always up to blaming the WWE direction but Del Rio is as much to blame. Talking about DESTINY every week was not good material. That's on the bookers. Here you have a rich Mexican guy and all he seemed to do with his money was rent a bunch of flashy cars? I'm bewildered. The only time they ever got Del Rio "right" was that time he paid off a bunch of police officers to attack Sheamus. We need more of that Del Rio and less of the whole "Del Rio vs Kofi/Ryder/Sin Cara" cycle we seem to get every week where Del Rio refuses to break the hold after the match while the announcers try to sell us on how AGGRESSIVE he is, before getting bitched by Cena or whoever his opponent is at the latest upcoming PPV.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 1:58:55 GMT -5
Y'all gonna lose your mind when he wins on Sunday after breaking everyone's arms with the Aggressive Armbar! If ADR wins on Sunday I'll film myself and anyone I can convince running through London Euston chanting si a lot. ADR! ADR!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 24, 2014 8:20:09 GMT -5
Y'all gonna lose your mind when he wins on Sunday after breaking everyone's arms with the Aggressive Armbar! He's going to lock the ladder in an armbar and the titles will just fall on him for seemingly no reason...
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 24, 2014 8:24:29 GMT -5
One of the big problems is that Mexico simply isn't a country one associates with high wealth.
If he was an oil-rich Arab character called Ahmed El Zayed, it might have worked better.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 24, 2014 8:38:38 GMT -5
He's decent in the ring; but virtually every match he has follows the exact same pattern. He's more formulaic than any five moves of doom. Couple that with him being unable to give you a promo worth a damn, and he's gotten WELL more than he's ever deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 9:48:11 GMT -5
The Internet Wrestling Community is always willing to derile WWE Creative's ineptness with their talent. Except in the case of Alberto Del Rio, who might be the most egregious and glaringly bad failure on the part of Creative since John Morrison. It's cognitive dissonance at its finest. The OP and Flibbity are now my two favorite posters. Sometimes it drives me up a wall to see so many people just refuse to acknowledge that the WWE's booking is what has done his career the most damage.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 24, 2014 10:06:13 GMT -5
The booking hasn't been great, but the guy himself just doesn't have it. Average in the ring, shitty delivery of promos, and looks like nothing special.
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Post by Branimal on Jun 24, 2014 10:14:58 GMT -5
I always found the character boring and his in-ring ability isn't all that great. Sure, he can have a decent match but nothing about him really stands out. The greatest thing he ever did was bring that chihuahua out in the Rey Mysterio mask and that was what.. three years ago?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 24, 2014 10:23:32 GMT -5
The booking isn't good. No arguing that. But there is no world where a dude so mediocre in every phase of wrestling should be a multi-time world champ.
He's good at lots of things, he's not great at anything. That can't all be lain at the booking's feet.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jun 24, 2014 17:33:53 GMT -5
Well, I think Miz got more of a raw deal the last few years, people cite the terrible Wrestlemania main event but forget the poor guy got concussed during the match when Cena knocked him onto the floor.
AT least Del Rio made it back to the main event for a while.
But I agree that if someone like Barrett can get a terrible gimmick and turn it into solid gold, then Alberto has no excuse.
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