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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 16, 2014 22:41:46 GMT -5
Not really. Give an average MLB caliber manager the team for this series and let them handle the lineup and bullpen, and this series would still be heading home to St. Louis right now. Mike Matheny is more prayer group leader than manager. And to be fair, this is a lot more evidence that a God exists than Matheny's managerial talent exists. Come on! You got beat by the better team with the best manager in baseball. Bochy is the man and would have out managed anyone in this series. Bochy is a great manager and I'd gladly trade him a steak dinner if I can kick Pablo Sandoval in the groin just once.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Oct 16, 2014 22:42:20 GMT -5
Not really. Give an average MLB caliber manager the team for this series and let them handle the lineup and bullpen, and this series would still be heading home to St. Louis right now. Mike Matheny is more prayer group leader than manager. And to be fair, this is a lot more evidence that a God exists than Matheny's managerial talent exists. Come on! You got beat by the better team with the best manager in baseball. Bochy is the man and would have out managed anyone in this series. If Buster Posey gets hurt early in the series and is unavailable from then on, do you think you would be going to Kansas City? Me either. Your team is better than the Cardinals team without their best player. Bruce Bochy though is one hell of a manager. It also doesn't change the fact that Matheny is a terrible one.
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Post by Toxik916 on Oct 16, 2014 22:45:15 GMT -5
This is gonna be one helluva world series. The Giants and the Royals are both playing like teams of destiny right now. I'm hoping experience comes into play and the Royals folder under pressure.
San Francisco in six.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 16, 2014 22:47:28 GMT -5
I f***ing knew this would happen.
Christ, the ONE team I didn't want to win at all in the Playoffs is now going to the World Series where they stand a very good chance to win again.
Goddammit.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 16, 2014 22:54:38 GMT -5
This is gonna be one helluva world series. The Giants and the Royals are both playing like teams of destiny right now. I'm hoping experience comes into play and the Royals folder under pressure. San Francisco in six. Royals in 4.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 16, 2014 22:56:02 GMT -5
I f***ing knew this would happen. Christ, the ONE team I didn't want to win at all in the Playoffs is now going to the World Series where they stand a very good chance to win again. Goddammit. I just had a buddy that's a Pirates fan bust my balls. I told him I blamed his team for going down faster than Lindsey Lohan on a first date in the WC game. Ugh.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 16, 2014 22:57:04 GMT -5
This is gonna be one helluva world series. The Giants and the Royals are both playing like teams of destiny right now. I'm hoping experience comes into play and the Royals folder under pressure. San Francisco in six. Royals in 4. I wish I shared your optimism. Unfortunately anytime we've seen a team who hasn't been there in a while or a team who's never been there in recent years, it's lead to a pretty shitty World Series.
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Post by Some Guy on Oct 16, 2014 23:06:43 GMT -5
Royals in 4. I wish I shared your optimism. Unfortunately anytime we've seen a team who hasn't been there in a while or a team who's never been there in recent years, it's lead to a pretty shitty World Series. You cannot base past events with absolutely no connection outside of a small detail on the present. There is zero reason to believe these Royals play like the Rays or Rockies or even the Tigers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 23:12:22 GMT -5
This is going to be a strange series. Both teams just find the darnedest ways to win. Hope it goes to 7.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 16, 2014 23:18:43 GMT -5
I wish I shared your optimism. Unfortunately anytime we've seen a team who hasn't been there in a while or a team who's never been there in recent years, it's lead to a pretty shitty World Series. You cannot base past events with absolutely no connection outside of a small detail on the present. There is zero reason to believe these Royals play like the Rays or Rockies or even the Tigers. Don't give me that. I'm usually very good in my predictions because it almost always follows a basic pattern. Don't get me wrong, baseball is more unpredictable than say the NBA, but the one thing I was not wanting was the Giants because of how they've been in the last two appearances. There is nothing I notice that is more inferior than the last 2 Series wins. The only saving grace is both teams are going to just about equal that they're rusted...I mean rested. Had the Cards/Giants gone 7 games, the Royals wouldn't have stood a chance.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Oct 16, 2014 23:41:57 GMT -5
You cannot base past events with absolutely no connection outside of a small detail on the present. There is zero reason to believe these Royals play like the Rays or Rockies or even the Tigers. Don't give me that. I'm usually very good in my predictions because it almost always follows a basic pattern. Don't get me wrong, baseball is more unpredictable than say the NBA, but the one thing I was not wanting was the Giants because of how they've been in the last two appearances. There is nothing I notice that is more inferior than the last 2 Series wins.
The only saving grace is both teams are going to just about equal that they're rusted...I mean rested. Had the Cards/Giants gone 7 games, the Royals wouldn't have stood a chance.Why would that be? It is totally reasonable to expect that a baseball player (known for being creatures of habit) could endure a long layoff and step right into the highest pressure situation and perform fantastically without the slightest hint of rust /Matheny
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 16, 2014 23:45:06 GMT -5
"A tough spot for him to be in. Not a spot we want him to be in" -Mike Matheny on Michael Wacha.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 16, 2014 23:50:29 GMT -5
Based on the history trends, I posted here a few days ago, I say the Giants win this easy.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 16, 2014 23:52:33 GMT -5
Don't give me that. I'm usually very good in my predictions because it almost always follows a basic pattern. Don't get me wrong, baseball is more unpredictable than say the NBA, but the one thing I was not wanting was the Giants because of how they've been in the last two appearances. There is nothing I notice that is more inferior than the last 2 Series wins.
The only saving grace is both teams are going to just about equal that they're rusted...I mean rested. Had the Cards/Giants gone 7 games, the Royals wouldn't have stood a chance.Why would that be? It is totally reasonable to expect that a baseball player (known for being creatures of habit) could endure a long layoff and step right into the highest pressure situation and perform fantastically without the slightest hint of rust /Matheny Again, my theory has always been the team that fought hardest to get there (endured more games), is usually the one to win. That isn't always the case, but usually I pick them to win it all. And that follows most sports, not just baseball.
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Post by BK From WV on Oct 17, 2014 0:17:20 GMT -5
There were only two teams I didn't want in the World Series and they're both in it. If I had to pick, go Giants but I won't be watching.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 17, 2014 1:09:51 GMT -5
I don't post much in the MLB threads, but before the season started I picked Detroit over San Francisco in the World Series. So I got one team in.
My pick Giants in 6.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Oct 17, 2014 7:14:49 GMT -5
Man you guys overrate the shit out of Tony LaRussa. Not really. Give an average MLB caliber manager the team for this series and let them handle the lineup and bullpen, and this series would still be heading home to St. Louis right now. Mike Matheny is more prayer group leader than manager. And to be fair, there is a lot more evidence that a God exists than Matheny's managerial talent exists. Proof? 3 years managing at any level anywhere and 3 years managing his team to at least the League Championship Series? I mean getting your team further than the other 26 managers in baseball every year that you are a manager has to put you in some elite company. Its not like the Cardinals have highly paid all stars at every position and he is failing with them (cough, Dodgers, cough.) Are they loaded with talent? Yes, that's why they are where they are, but so much of that talent is very young. I mean Matheny took over the same year that one of the greatest players in franchise history left and the Cardinals didn't miss a beat. I get that every manager gets blamed when his team loses, but saying he's not even an MLB average manager is ridiculous. If you want say he isn't as great a manager as Bochy, then fine, but Bochy's been around 20 years, and for years and years he was a losing manager for the Padres. Or if Bochy's so great why did the Giants have a losing record last year, while Matheny had his team in the World Series? I don't want it to be a Bochy vs Matheny argument, beacauce Bruce is a hall of fame manager now. But I am just using him as a way to make a point that you are being hyperbolic.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 17, 2014 7:47:56 GMT -5
Matheny's problem is that he has a little too much faith in some players. Wacha should have never been put into that spot last night. He's left relievers in way too long even when they can't get an out. I do blame a little bit on the offense though. Peralta was awful in the playoffs offense wise and we were in a rough spot without Molina.
Also, if Tavaras is the future and we HAD to trade Allen Craig to open an every day spot for him...why was he not starting during the postseason? It boggles my mind. Excuse my French but shit or get off the pot with Oscar. Make him an everyday starter and see if he's what you say he is.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Oct 17, 2014 9:35:11 GMT -5
I like Matheny (I got to see him play in AA ball as a minor leaguer for an entire season and became a fan), but he comes across more as a prayer circle leader than a manager. He has almost no faith in his bullpen and thinks that just because Wacha won the NLCS MVP last year, he'd get the same result this time. He was outmanaged big time.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 17, 2014 9:51:45 GMT -5
And I thought Yankees fans were spoiled. Jeez.
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