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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 8:59:02 GMT -5
WWE's having trouble getting people to buy traditional PPVs... WWE's having trouble getting people to subscribe to the Network... How about an idea that solves both?
January Royal Rumble (Network & Pay-Per-View) February Elimination Chamber (Network) March No Way Out (Network) April WrestleMania (Network & Pay-Per-View) May Extreme Rules (Network) June Money in the Bank (Network) July Battleground (Network) August SummerSlam (Network & Pay-Per-View) September Night of Champions (Network) October Hell in a Cell (Network) November Survivor Series (Network & Pay-Per-View) December Tables, Ladders & Chairs (Network)
It would boost the Network tremendously and make the "Big Four" shows much more important.
Thoughts? Comments? Want to hear my reasoning why it would work? What problems it would solve and what problems it would cause? EDIT: This would be AFTER the Network went worldwide of course. Or at least if not the Network exclusive "ppvs" would still be available through traditional means outside of the USA.
(MODS: I put this in the WWE section rather than the Network section because it involves changing WWE's traditional PPV structure rather than it's Network, but if you it should be moved to the Network section please do so.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:03:24 GMT -5
I've got a simple one: produce PPV events that aren't the drizzling shits and make the matches actually mean something.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 21, 2014 9:04:02 GMT -5
Nope, they've already made international viewers second-class citizens as they can't get the network so pissing off more fans isn't the best of ideas.
It would probably harm the perception of network only PPVs too which would harm sales and one of the main selling points of the network.
Just having more good PPVs than bad would be a good step in the right direction at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:06:33 GMT -5
Nope, they've already made international viewers second-class citizens as they can't get the network so pissing off more fans isn't the best of ideas. It would probably harm the perception of network only PPVs too which would harm sales and one of the main selling points of the network. This would obviously only happen after the Network was rolled out world-wide of course. When it comes to their perception it's really a wash anyway, people already consider them to be "b-shows". But I guarantee you if the only way to see them was to get the Network you'd have more people getting the network.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Jul 21, 2014 9:07:25 GMT -5
Fire Kevin Dunn?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:09:03 GMT -5
The main point I'm going to gun for, can we stop pretending Survivor Series matters?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:12:11 GMT -5
The main point I'm going to gun for, can we stop pretending Survivor Series matters? It doesn't matter to much to WWE, but if quarterly PPVs were instituted it would be the perfect fourth. It's notoriety, longevity and place in the calendar make it the obvious choice.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 21, 2014 9:14:28 GMT -5
Nope, they've already made international viewers second-class citizens as they can't get the network so pissing off more fans isn't the best of ideas. It would probably harm the perception of network only PPVs too which would harm sales and one of the main selling points of the network. This would obviously only happen after the Network was rolled out world-wide of course. When it comes to their perception it's really a wash anyway, people already consider them to be "b-shows". But I guarantee you if the only way to see them was to get the Network you'd have more people getting the network. I think more people are likely to buy a well built PPV (especially MitB, Extreme Rules or EC) as a one-off PPV than would want to commit to a subscription. Of course you may think the opposite and that's fair enough, we don't exactly have the market research to back our opinions up. I didn't just mean pissing off international fans either but any fan that can't subscribe for any reason, eg the internet not being good enough in their area or somebody who is only the country for three months of the six month period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:25:13 GMT -5
This would obviously only happen after the Network was rolled out world-wide of course. When it comes to their perception it's really a wash anyway, people already consider them to be "b-shows". But I guarantee you if the only way to see them was to get the Network you'd have more people getting the network. I think more people are likely to buy a well built PPV (especially MitB, Extreme Rules or EC) as a one-off PPV than would want to commit to a subscription. Of course you may think the opposite and that's fair enough, we don't exactly have the market research to back our opinions up. I didn't just mean pissing off international fans either but any fan that can't subscribe for any reason, eg the internet not being good enough in their area or somebody who is only the country for three months of the six month period. I understand and sympathize with those who have crappy internet but the other arguments aren't really applicable. When a single ppv costs about as much as a 6 month commitment being able to access it for only 3 of the 6 months is still definitely the preference. And in response to a few others, yes of course WWE producing better shows will raise their buys, but I'm looking at it from a purely marketing standpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:29:49 GMT -5
Say as it is now... a hypothetical fan: Might buy Money in the Bank Might buy Battleground Might buy SummerSlam
I feel that same fan when the first two options are off the table is MUCH more likely to take the third. From a fan standpoint and a financial one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 9:32:08 GMT -5
The main point I'm going to gun for, can we stop pretending Survivor Series matters? I think a much better idea would be to simply make Survivor Series actually matter again.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 21, 2014 9:37:57 GMT -5
The main point I'm going to gun for, can we stop pretending Survivor Series matters? I think a much better idea would be to simply make Survivor Series actually matter again. go back the original format You could do things like Cenation- John Cena - Usos - Zack Ryder Wyatt Family- Bray Wyatt - Erik Rowan - Luke Harper Diva team 1- A.j Lee - Naomi - Nikki Bella - Brie Bella Diva team 2- Paige - Summer - Charlotte - Layla Roman Empire- Roman Reigns - Dean Ambrose - Stardust - Goldust Authority- HHH - Seth Rollins - Miz - Orton It's not hard to take Survivor Series back to it's former self
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Jul 21, 2014 9:49:28 GMT -5
Out of a cannon? Into the sun?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 21, 2014 10:26:34 GMT -5
I think a much better idea would be to simply make Survivor Series actually matter again. go back the original format You could do things like Cenation- John Cena - Usos - Zack Ryder Wyatt Family- Bray Wyatt - Erik Rowan - Luke Harper Diva team 1- A.j Lee - Naomi - Nikki Bella - Brie Bella Diva team 2- Paige - Summer - Charlotte - Layla Roman Empire- Roman Reigns - Dean Ambrose - Stardust - Goldust Authority- HHH - Seth Rollins - Miz - Orton It's not hard to take Survivor Series back to it's former self Thinking about multiple Survivor Series matches just reminds me how boring those old PPVs were. It's old self is not that appealing.
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Post by the2ndevil on Jul 21, 2014 10:30:11 GMT -5
Roman Empire needs to become a stable. That name is too good to pass up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 10:31:47 GMT -5
go back the original format You could do things like Cenation- John Cena - Usos - Zack Ryder Wyatt Family- Bray Wyatt - Erik Rowan - Luke Harper Diva team 1- A.j Lee - Naomi - Nikki Bella - Brie Bella Diva team 2- Paige - Summer - Charlotte - Layla Roman Empire- Roman Reigns - Dean Ambrose - Stardust - Goldust Authority- HHH - Seth Rollins - Miz - Orton It's not hard to take Survivor Series back to it's former self Thinking about multiple Survivor Series matches just reminds me how boring those old PPVs were. It's old self is not that appealing. Disagree. It was something different, yet simple, and furthered feuds well without giving us the 1-on-1s too soon or forcing WWE to flat out lie like they did with the Rollins/Ambrose non-match.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 21, 2014 12:09:01 GMT -5
What would happen if they left tv and the only way you can watch raw and smackdown is on the network? Would the 3.5 or something million fans that watch raw suscribe to the network?
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Post by Bad Moon on Jul 21, 2014 12:10:01 GMT -5
This is such an obvious idea I legitimately thought they'd already done it.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 21, 2014 12:11:57 GMT -5
I've got a simple one: produce PPV events that aren't the drizzling shits and make the matches actually mean something. Seriously, people aren't watching these shows for a reason. That PPV was basically an average Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 12:19:47 GMT -5
I don't think cable companies would agree to that. But yeah, they should just make the PPVs not suck or just stop trying to hide the fact that only SummerSlam and Wrestlemania matter.
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