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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 19, 2014 22:44:17 GMT -5
Alright, with ep. 2 I'm now totally with this season. I wasn't feeling into it after the premier last week. Now I'm ready to see where this goes.
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Post by Waffel113 on Oct 19, 2014 22:45:00 GMT -5
Like, the gist is it worked well, it freaked me out, and then he drops a one-liner.
I mean don't get me wrong, I laughed, and it endeared me to Gareth in a weird way, but considering just seconds before we saw Bob freaking out over his foot being cut off, it's a bit of whiplash.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Oct 19, 2014 22:50:55 GMT -5
Did anyone not care for The Governor? I just couldn't grasp him as a bad/good person. The guy might be a good actor (and I can not unsee Norm McDonald) but I could not connect with that character. He had all the cliches. The only thing I liked that he did was the last three things he did (with the girl, Hershel, and the prison). This Gareth guy has got my full attention in only a couple of episodes. I also want more of that Tattooed dude! Just finished watching it. OK, the water walker and quick cut to Bob missing his leg freaked me out. But the whole "If it makes you feel any better, you taste much better than we thought you would" kinda took me out of it. Looking forward to where the story (particularly Gareth and Gabriel, as well as Morgan's return) goes from here. How did it take you out of it? I love when sick and sadistic shit to happens. So it made me like Gareth a little. I liked the Governor, but mostly it was because all the main cast were acting stupid, and were totally unlikable. G-unit was my likable than the good guys and more charming. Plus he had an interesting back story and consistent motives. If not for him I would have hated season 3.
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Post by SenorCrest on Oct 19, 2014 22:55:02 GMT -5
Did anyone not care for The Governor? I just couldn't grasp him as a bad/good person. The guy might be a good actor (and I can not unsee Norm McDonald) but I could not connect with that character. He had all the cliches. The only thing I liked that he did was the last three things he did (with the girl, Hershel, and the prison). This Gareth guy has got my full attention in only a couple of episodes. I also want more of that Tattooed dude! How did it take you out of it? I love when sick and sadistic shit to happens. So it made me like Gareth a little. I liked the Governor, but mostly it was because all the main cast were acting stupid, and were totally unlikable. G-unit was my likable than the good guys and more charming. Plus he had an interesting back story and consistent motives. If not for him I would have hated season 3. T-dog? The guy was the man at the end. Funny how many brothers they got now, its refreshing. Tyresse reminds me of the Hulk. He is all soft and normal and then he gets mad and wrecks shit.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Oct 19, 2014 22:57:39 GMT -5
I liked the Governor, but mostly it was because all the main cast were acting stupid, and were totally unlikable. G-unit was my likable than the good guys and more charming. Plus he had an interesting back story and consistent motives. If not for him I would have hated season 3. T-dog? The guy was the man at the end. Funny how many brothers they got now, its refreshing. Tyresse reminds me of the Hulk. He is all soft and normal and then he gets mad and wrecks shit. The problem with T-Dog was that he'd have a moment, get some screen time then be shunted to the background again. When he finally really got to cowboy up he died right after (which is a tiresome issue with the show in general. Wanna kill a guy? Make him super important earlier in the episode!).
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Post by SenorCrest on Oct 19, 2014 23:03:04 GMT -5
T-dog? The guy was the man at the end. Funny how many brothers they got now, its refreshing. Tyresse reminds me of the Hulk. He is all soft and normal and then he gets mad and wrecks shit. The problem with T-Dog was that he'd have a moment, get some screen time then be shunted to the background again. When he finally really got to cowboy up he died right after (which is a tiresome issue with the show in general. Wanna kill a guy? Make him super important earlier in the episode!). Just to be clear, the person you referred to as G-Unit was T-dog right? And yes some of the stuff tends to repeat. Just for once I want the group to find a group of people living in harmony, get some supplies and then just carry on their way(like every pokemon episode). Make it a cold open or something. Or many the group finds these people and helps them fix their walls and fences and gives them tips on shooting and places not to go to.
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Post by Stu on Oct 20, 2014 0:11:16 GMT -5
I was so waiting for Bob to start laughing before dropping the "T" bomb. {Spoiler}Tainted Meat![\spoiler]
Also, now that Maggie knows Tara showed up with the Governor, the character is useless. I expected some drama involving Maggie blaming Tara for Hershel's death. But it seems like that ain't happening.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 20, 2014 0:30:54 GMT -5
I feel like one of Glenn and Maggie won't make it out of this season alive. They've already pushed an attraction from Tara for Glenn, and now have also developed some underlying resentment from Maggie towards her too. I suspect one of those relationships is going to be pushed more in the future.
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Post by Stu on Oct 20, 2014 8:07:04 GMT -5
I feel like one of Glenn and Maggie won't make it out of this season alive. They've already pushed an attraction from Tara for Glenn, and now have also developed some underlying resentment from Maggie towards her too. I suspect one of those relationships is going to be pushed more in the future. Tara is a lesbian. As for Glenn, he won't die until we meet Negan.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Oct 20, 2014 9:43:06 GMT -5
The problem with T-Dog was that he'd have a moment, get some screen time then be shunted to the background again. When he finally really got to cowboy up he died right after (which is a tiresome issue with the show in general. Wanna kill a guy? Make him super important earlier in the episode!). Just to be clear, the person you referred to as G-Unit was T-dog right? And yes some of the stuff tends to repeat. Just for once I want the group to find a group of people living in harmony, get some supplies and then just carry on their way(like every pokemon episode). Make it a cold open or something. Or many the group finds these people and helps them fix their walls and fences and gives them tips on shooting and places not to go to. Nah, G-unit was the Governor. I would have called T-dawg, T-Dawg, not even T-dog actually.
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Post by Digital Witness on Oct 20, 2014 10:51:26 GMT -5
I feel like one of Glenn and Maggie won't make it out of this season alive. They've already pushed an attraction from Tara for Glenn, and now have also developed some underlying resentment from Maggie towards her too. I suspect one of those relationships is going to be pushed more in the future. Tara is a lesbian. As for Glenn, he won't die until we meet Negan. {Spoiler}Like with many deaths in the show, they *could* kill off Glenn sooner and have someone else meet Lucille. But I don't think they will. Glenn at the trough was a tease of future events. I think in Tara's case, she'll become a wild card much like Daryl in that you don't know what will happen with her and can't really predict much. I don't think they're going to stray too far from the comics with Maggie and Glenn's story. Also, I should say that those water walkers were absolutely disgusting. Bravo Greg Nicotero and crew! Bravo!
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 20, 2014 11:22:46 GMT -5
I feel like one of Glenn and Maggie won't make it out of this season alive. They've already pushed an attraction from Tara for Glenn, and now have also developed some underlying resentment from Maggie towards her too. I suspect one of those relationships is going to be pushed more in the future. Tara is a lesbian. As for Glenn, he won't die until we meet Negan. Guys not everyone has read the comics. Lot of spoilerific stuff in the past few pages.
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Post by Digital Witness on Oct 20, 2014 12:16:07 GMT -5
Tara is a lesbian. As for Glenn, he won't die until we meet Negan. Guys not everyone has read the comics. Lot of spoilerific stuff in the past few pages. I don't really feel all that bad for three reasons: 1. Where we're at in the story came out in the comics 4 years ago. 2. Not everything that happens in the comic happens in the show, some elements are remixed, and new stuff happens that didn't happen in the comic. Some characters in the show aren't in the comic and vice versa (see the Dixon Brothers). 3. You're in a Walking Dead thread on a message board on the internet. The Walking Dead can be considered a fandom based on the comics alone. There's a high probability that the comic is going to be talked about. We do our best to keep things in spoiler tags, but the rule of thumb I always use when I don't want to be spoiled is "don't look it up online". I will say that we are getting relatively close to a point in the show where several things will have to change as either AMC won't fork over for the budget, the sets they need may require too much (I really doubt they're going to leave Georgia to film in D.C., and recreating D.C. in a studio may be a bit too much), and some characters are going to have to change drastically (Negan can't drop f-bombs every other word or in some cases several f-bombs in a long, continuous stream on cable television).
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Post by LastCall on Oct 20, 2014 12:17:39 GMT -5
Another good episode. Nowhere near the amount of action last week, but did a god job patching up some loose ends from last season. Of course, that ending got my hyped for next week.
Also, did anyone else notice the guy Tyrese supposedly "killed" last week among the Terminus survivors? You done f***ed up, big guy.
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Post by Digital Witness on Oct 20, 2014 12:29:15 GMT -5
Another good episode. Nowhere near the amount of action last week, but did a god job patching up some loose ends from last season. Of course, that ending got my hyped for next week. Also, did anyone else notice the guy Tyreese supposedly "killed" last week among the Terminus survivors? You done f***ed up, big guy. On the Talking Dead, Chad Coleman said that Tyreese thought he beat the guy to death rather than just not having the stones to do it. Yeah, its suspect with him stopping Carol from checking it out; but Tyreese thought he got the job done and didn't. If he was smart, he would have made sure the brain was destroyed. I'm interested in seeing where they go with Tyreese and his inability to kill dangerous people; and how it might come back to bite him. {Spoiler}He didn't make it this far in the comic, so he's a wild card at this point.
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 20, 2014 13:01:54 GMT -5
Guys not everyone has read the comics. Lot of spoilerific stuff in the past few pages. I don't really feel all that bad for three reasons: 1. Where we're at in the story came out in the comics 4 years ago. 2. Not everything that happens in the comic happens in the show, some elements are remixed, and new stuff happens that didn't happen in the comic. Some characters in the show aren't in the comic and vice versa (see the Dixon Brothers). 3. You're in a Walking Dead thread on a message board on the internet. The Walking Dead can be considered a fandom based on the comics alone. There's a high probability that the comic is going to be talked about. We do our best to keep things in spoiler tags, but the rule of thumb I always use when I don't want to be spoiled is "don't look it up online". I will say that we are getting relatively close to a point in the show where several things will have to change as either AMC won't fork over for the budget, the sets they need may require too much (I really doubt they're going to leave Georgia to film in D.C., and recreating D.C. in a studio may be a bit too much), and some characters are going to have to change drastically (Negan can't drop f-bombs every other word or in some cases several f-bombs in a long, continuous stream on cable television). So everyone that's discussing the TV show (see title labelled Season 5) should just accept that everything in the thread will be spoiled from now on based on your rules. Ok cool.
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Post by adamclark52 on Oct 20, 2014 13:22:17 GMT -5
Spoilers for Episode 2 {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}The episode opens with the group walking away from a burning Terminus, smoke billowing in the distance. They all stop in the woods, and grab a bite to eat before deciding where they’re heading off to next, and Tara speaks with Rick about her time with the Governor.
Carol and Tyreese are shown beside a stream collecting water. He asks if she’s spoken to Rick about what happened at the prison. He explains that everyone has accepted it – she wouldn’t be with them otherwise, but he encourages her to speak to the rest of the group.
She tells him they don’t have to accept it but Tyreese disagrees though Tyreese explains he doesn’t want to tell them about what happened to the girls, he’d just rather forget what happened. He’s still visibly hurt by it all.
As the group continue their journey up the empty road they enter the woods and come across a lone walker, Michonne takes this one and kills her. As Abraham and Rosita look on he proclaims that THAT’s why they’re waiting for their moment.
They continue walking and the group are then shown around a campfire for the night. Rick approaches Carol and tells her that he owes her everything, but she says he owes Tyreese.
Rick confesses that he’s not sure about what Carol did but he knows she knew things that he didn’t. It seems he’s guilty of sending her away, but she explains that he sent her away to survive – and she did. Rick wants to know that now he’s joining Carol, if she’ll have them. He agrees.
[Beth will ‘amaze’ fans but Emily Kinney has had it ‘tough’]
Daryl and Carol are shown sitting in silence. Carol explains that she doesn’t want to talk about it, she can’t, she just wants to forget it. Daryl asks why but gets no response. He suddenly hears movement in the distance but it’s dark and he can’t see who or what it is – he says it’s nothing but there’s definitely something lurking.
It’s the next morning and the group are continuing on their travels. They’re looking for tracks from what Daryl thought he heard last night but there’s nothing. Rick whistles to tell everyone to keep close together. Abraham talks to Rick about finding a vehicle – he still wants to head to Washington.
Bob and Sasha are playing a game as they walk through the forest, they’re joking with each other as Tyreese looks on smiling. They kiss a few times as Tyreese asks what they’re doing. Suddenly, in the distance they hear someone yelling for help. As they run we’re shown Father Gabriel on top of a rock surrounded by walkers. He’s trying to kick them away but doesn’t appear to have any weapons.
The group take care of the walkers and encourage him to jump down from the rock. He looks petrified and the group look suspicious. Trusting strangers is definitely a no go area these days. Gabriel throws up and then thanks them for getting rid of the walkers. Rick asks if he’s armed to which he replies no.
Gabriel explains that he only needs God as a weapon and jokes that he called for help and help came in the form of our group. He asks if they have any food, as his has been lost to the walkers. Carl steps forward and gives him a few small pieces. Gabriel explains that he has a church, Rick searches him and asks how many people including walkers he’s killed – Gabriel confesses none because of his beliefs.
[Time jump coming & the tree markings will be important!]
Rick doesn’t look convinced though, he says that they’ve all done something. As they begin walking towards the Church Rick asks if he was the one watching them. He explains it wasn’t him adding that he doesn’t move far from his Church. Gabriel attempts to make a joke with the group who are less than impressed.
They finally arrive at the Church and Gabriel is told to wait outside while other members of the group scan it to see what’s inside – to make sure they’re not walking into a trap. For a moment, it’s tense thanks to the eerie music, it sounds like someone could jump out at any point. Carol finds books relating to religion, handwritten by Gabriel. It appears he’s writing the same part over and over again.
It’s dark but it’s clear of anyone else meaning for now it’s potentially safe and it’s not long before Rick notices a supply of food. The group all return outside as Rick hands the key back to Gabriel. Abraham is still insisting on moving to Washington but no one else is interested. They’ll only follow what Rick decides.
As the group trickles into the Church they more or less say the same thing, they’re not splitting up again. Bob confesses they want to go with them but they’re all sticking together, with Rick and everyone else. Rick asks where Gabriel got all his supplies. He explains that it came from an annual food drive. It lasted a while but he began scavenging.
There’s only one place he hasn’t been near because it’s over run by a dozen. The group say they can handle a dozen. Bob and Sasha offer to go and say Tyreese can stay behind to watch Judith. Gabriel doesn’t want to go with them but Rick insists he’s going.
Rick and Carl have a moment about trust. Rick doesn’t trust Gabriel but Carl doesn’t understand why. Rick explains that no matter where he is and how many people are around him, he’s never safe, one second and it’s over. He tells him to never let his guard down. Rick believes that Gabriel is hiding something.
[Alexandra Breckenridge joins the cast but as who?!]
Rick, Gabriel, Sasha and Bob are now shown heading towards the location where Gabriel was afraid to go near because of the walkers. Bob talks Washington to Rick, it sounds like he’s trying to convince him it’s for the best but Rick explains he hasn’t decided what he’s going to do. Bob says he’s calling it, Washington will happen, Rick will eventually say yes.
Carol and Daryl are shown carrying bottles of water, Daryl asks if she’s okay, she replies that she’s got to be. Daryl explains they need to start over, she saved everyone. They spot a car in the distance, Carol gets inside, attempts to turn it on but it’s dead. She opens the trunk to find a battery which appears to work. Carol insists on leaving it there for backup as the pair walk off.
Maggie and Tara are out looking for supplies, inside the store they hear a noise, Glenn stumbles outside adjusting his gun. He tripped over them and made the noise. He found three silencers and explains that rule number one of scavenging is that there’s nothing left in this world that isn’t hidden. Tara looks on.
The group arrive at the food bank. As they go inside, it’s dark, they search the place for any signs of life – or walkers. All they find it a hole in the ground with walkers wading around in a pool of water. It appears a leak in the roof damaged the floor creating a pit for them amongst supplies. Sasha comes up with the idea of using the shelves to keep them away and they jump down. Gabriel looks on but Rick tells him he’s going with them.
Down in the pit, they move the shelves to keep the walkers away. They kill the walkers but it’s all too much for Gabriel who runs away after seeing someone it looks like he recognises – a family member? He runs away through the water, the steps out break and he struggles to the edge, Rick kills the walkers as they head to get Gabriel.
[Abraham, Eugene, Rosita are ESSENTIAL Gale Anne Hurd reveals!]
As they approach Gabriel they kill a few more walkers when suddenly Bob is pulled underneath the water, a walker has him but it’s unclear whether or not he’s been bitten. Sasha kills the walker and the group make it out with supplies, they head back to the Church as Gabriel apologises to Rick, who asks if he knew the walker when she was alive – he clearly did but doesn’t say yes or no.
Rick and Michonne talk about her sword, she explains that it’s not hers, she just found it when the outbreak began. The pair joke about how they’re living now, walking about in slime for some peas and carrots. Michonne reveals that she’s missing people – Andrea, Hershel – but doesn’t miss what was before, or the sword.
Rick walks up to Carl who is outside the Church, he’s spotted some weird markings on the wood. They appear to be deep scratches from people trying to get inside the Church. Carl directs his dad to something else he found, someone has carved “you’ll burn for this” into the Church wall – but what has Gabriel done?
It’s night again and the group are inside the Church, Abraham proposes a toast, he talks about survival and asks if that’s all they want, to just be survivors. Once again he brings up Washington. Abraham talks Eugene knowing what can help end the outbreak. Eugene reveals that in DC there’s infrastructure created to deal with a pandemic of this magnitude. Food, fuel, refuge and restart.
Abraham explains to the group that no matter how long it takes for the restart button to kick in, it’s a place of safety for the group. He tells Rick to come with them, save the world for Judith and themselves. Everyone else is clearly waiting on Rick to answer, he smirks and asks what Judith said as she made a noise. Rick says that they’re in.
Sasha and Bob have another moment, she goes off to hold Judith as Bob asks for a few more kisses like he did before when they were walking through the woods. Something isn’t right. He looks at Sasha like this is the last time he’s going to see her. As she holds Judith, he walks out of the Church.
Tara and Maggie speak about being at the prison. Tara explains that she was with the govonor. She didn’t know who he was, what he could do, and didn’t know about all of them. She explains that she had to tell her that she was there, she didn’t want it to be hidden.
Rick walks over to Gabriel and thanks him for the hospitality. Rick tells Gabriel that he knows he’s hiding something and explains that these people are his family now and if he hurts them in anyway with what he’s hiding, he’ll kill him.
Outside, Carol is at the car when walkers approach. Daryl appears behind her and asks what she’s doing. She says she doesn’t know when out of now where a car speeds past them showing the marking of the car that kidnapped Beth. They jump into the car they found earlier and follow.
Back at the Church Bob is outside, he’s listening to all the chatter going on inside and walks over to the trees. He’s emotional and breaks down when suddenly he’s knocked out and kidnapped. A marking on a tree is shown similar to what we had seen last week – though it looks to have been hidden slightly?
As Bob wakes up we see what appears to be Martin from the cabin in the premiere episode and Gareth from the Terminus. He explains that he’s not dead. Bob comes around as Gareth explains that hurting him or his group isn’t something they wanted to do, they’re things they got to do. Gareth adds that Bob and his people took away their home and now they’re trying to survive like everyone else.
As Gareth is talking we’re shown the people back at the Church having a good time as Gareth continues talking about now they have to hunt. He talks about eating people, they didn’t start that way but they had to evolve into that – but now they’ve devolved into hunters. Gareth hopes he understands that nothing happening to him is personal adding that he would have done it to anybody – and they will.
As Bob looks down he realises he’s missing his leg as Gareth bites into a chunk of meat and confesses that if it makes him feel any better, he tastes better than they thought he would as we’re shown an image of Bob’s foot being cooked as the episode ends. Thank you for posting this. I'm a huge wuss and I my heart can't handle jump scares or anything too gross unless I know what's coming. This let me watch the entire episode rather than quickly flip back and forth between another show whenever something scary was going to happen. (because if I jump between this and Sunday Night Football I have a 50/50 chance of missing the jumpscare). Please do it again next week and all season.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Oct 20, 2014 13:56:47 GMT -5
Also, did anyone else notice the guy Tyrese supposedly "killed" last week among the Terminus survivors? You done f***ed up, big guy. I thought I saw him, but it was so fast I wasn't sure. Thanks for confirming that I'm not making things up
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 20, 2014 14:29:19 GMT -5
I loved last night's episode, the end was shocking yet I was making fun of Bob mainly now that he is literally Bob's Burgers
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Post by Bobeddy on Oct 20, 2014 14:36:32 GMT -5
Guys not everyone has read the comics. Lot of spoilerific stuff in the past few pages. I don't really feel all that bad for three reasons: 1. Where we're at in the story came out in the comics 4 years ago. 2. Not everything that happens in the comic happens in the show, some elements are remixed, and new stuff happens that didn't happen in the comic. Some characters in the show aren't in the comic and vice versa (see the Dixon Brothers). 3. You're in a Walking Dead thread on a message board on the internet. The Walking Dead can be considered a fandom based on the comics alone. There's a high probability that the comic is going to be talked about. We do our best to keep things in spoiler tags, but the rule of thumb I always use when I don't want to be spoiled is "don't look it up online". I will say that we are getting relatively close to a point in the show where several things will have to change as either AMC won't fork over for the budget, the sets they need may require too much (I really doubt they're going to leave Georgia to film in D.C., and recreating D.C. in a studio may be a bit too much), and some characters are going to have to change drastically (Negan can't drop f-bombs every other word or in some cases several f-bombs in a long, continuous stream on cable television). 1. 4 years ago. 4 months ago. 4 days ago. That happened in the comics not in the show. Any details you give from 4 years ago can spoil people's enjoyment of the show today. 2. Not everything that happens in the comic happens in the show but enough elements from the comics carry over that it's probably best to err on the side of caution and if it hasn't happened keep it in spoiler tags. 3. You're in a Walking Dead thread on a message board on the internet that clearly says 'Season 5' in the title making it pretty obvious it's about the TV show. The rule of thumb I always use is when I'm in the thread clearly marked for the TV show, I put anything from the comics in spoiler tags. And this comes from someone who's completely up to date on the comics.
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