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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 29, 2014 16:51:38 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's just one of those things that drives me crazy in movies. When they try to be "realistic" but their main premise is completely non-plausible-at-every-level-fiction. The Purge concept isn't helped by having it set so close to now. A society of a law abiding society that has 1 day a year to lose all law and order isn't a bad premise. Put that in some dystopian future like The Running Man or something and you've got a movie. Saying this is going to happen in less that 10 years in the real world just makes it seem more stupid, we've already got the World Cup set for that year, some kind of descent into a situation which could create this world and everybody being totally ok with it strains credibility. With luck, every person on this board will be alive and healthy by that time, are we all gonna start going insane and killing everything one day a year? Bingo. Set it 50 years in the future after the humanity defeated the robopocalypse or something. Make it something that changes humanity on a fundamental level. Then I'm ok with it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 29, 2014 16:56:48 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's explained that killing a politician, acts of terrorism, or killing anyone over a certain level would still be illegal.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 29, 2014 17:00:36 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's explained that killing a politician, acts of terrorism, or killing anyone over a certain level would still be illegal. Which makes it even more stupid somehow. For the record, I walked out the movie and went into another movie less than 10 minutes into The Purge because I hated it. I probably missed something that might have made it tolerable.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 29, 2014 17:02:30 GMT -5
It's explained that killing a politician, acts of terrorism, or killing anyone over a certain level would still be illegal. Which makes it even more stupid somehow. From the previews it looks like the sequel goes more into this, and the rich and powerful's power in The Purge. That's something that should have happened in the first one. I haven't seen the sequel, waiting for Blu.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2014 17:09:16 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's explained that killing a politician, acts of terrorism, or killing anyone over a certain level would still be illegal. Which just kinda confuses the issue in my mind... I mean... basically the premise is for 12 hours or whatever is Rule 1: THERE ARE NO RULES! rule 2: here are some rules. There is also the rather flawed idea that the only reason the majority of people aren't running around shooting each other is because it's illegal... I do think if they didn't give a date or set it I dunno 100 years in the future or made the non-purge scenes seem less like it does right now it would probably serve the narrative better.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jul 29, 2014 18:12:43 GMT -5
I love Pinky and the Brain bit at the end, awesome to get those two.
Also reminds us it is almost 2015, where is our hoverboards and our flying cars. Let's get on it people. I have to find a Cafe 80's.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 29, 2014 18:25:17 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's just one of those things that drives me crazy in movies. When they try to be "realistic" but their main premise is completely non-plausible-at-every-level-fiction. The Purge concept isn't helped by having it set so close to now. A society of a law abiding society that has 1 day a year to lose all law and order isn't a bad premise. Put that in some dystopian future like The Running Man or something and you've got a movie. Saying this is going to happen in less that 10 years in the real world just makes it seem more stupid, we've already got the World Cup set for that year, some kind of descent into a situation which could create this world and everybody being totally ok with it strains credibility. With luck, every person on this board will be alive and healthy by that time, are we all gonna start going insane and killing everything one day a year? Bingo. Set it 50 years in the future after the humanity defeated the robopocalypse or something. Make it something that changes humanity on a fundamental level. Then I'm ok with it. Right; provide some sort of impetus in the past--WWIII or whatever that paves the way for people to accept such a shift in society. As is, the reason it's flawed in the movie sets it up like society as a whole just decides to do it, and everyone is cool with it. Nope.
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Post by mysterydriver on Jul 29, 2014 19:43:27 GMT -5
Some people get stuck on the logistical matters of things...honestly, tell a good story and the logistics shouldn't matter.
The Purge is just a crazy fun idea that could be tinkered with in so many different directions. The whole "This wouldn't happen" aspect is just that. An aspect that doesn't matter in my eyes. Set up your rules. Tell your story. Make sure it's fun.
It's all I can ask for.
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Post by Sparvid on Jul 29, 2014 20:14:51 GMT -5
The thing that bothered me about the Purge was when you try to make it seem like it "could happen" yet the entire premise is flawed. If crime was legal people wouldn't go around randomly killing people. Every Parent with an angry teen would be dead 2 seconds into the Purge. Every relative sitting on a pile of cash would get murdered by greedy people in their will. Every boss would get killed. Every business would be robbed by people on the inside. Every computer would be hacked. Terrorists would be driving bombs into everything. Illegals would cross borders in entire armies. Every politician would get assassinated. How many spouse abusers would be dead after 5 minutes? How many people would kill the pedophile that moved in across the street before the first hour is over? This is all that would happen before a single person killed a random stranger. It's just one of those things that drives me crazy in movies. When they try to be "realistic" but their main premise is completely non-plausible-at-every-level-fiction. I haven't seen the movies, but is it explained how awkward things must get during the other 364 days? Imagine for example having to work with someone who (lawfully) killed a family member of yours in front of you.
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Post by ibdude on Jul 29, 2014 20:38:35 GMT -5
I don't care what anybody says. I liked this movie.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 29, 2014 21:14:44 GMT -5
I don't care what anybody says. I liked this movie. Good. No one should be able to tell you that you shouldn't like something, if it's not harming anyone. I personally have zero interest in the series, but for those who enjoy them, good. Glad people can find stuff that makes them have a good time.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 29, 2014 21:16:29 GMT -5
I don't care what anybody says. I liked this movie. Good. No one should be able to tell you that you shouldn't like something, if it's not harming anyone. I personally have zero interest in the series, but for those who enjoy them, good. Glad people can find stuff that makes them have a good time. Very true. Hell, one of my favorite movies is Varsity Blues; and that movie is objectively terrible. SO enjoyable though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 29, 2014 21:17:31 GMT -5
Good. No one should be able to tell you that you shouldn't like something, if it's not harming anyone. I personally have zero interest in the series, but for those who enjoy them, good. Glad people can find stuff that makes them have a good time. Very true. Hell, one of my favorite movies is Varsity Blues; and that movie is objectively terrible. SO enjoyable though. Reminds me of how Void loves the Fast and the Furious series, and still has no problem laughing his ass off with me at how absurd it all really is.
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Post by hassanchop on Jul 30, 2014 2:05:31 GMT -5
The Purge feels like the bastard child of Funny Games only more pretentious. I agree that it should have gone dark comedy route and instead of a family terrorized, make the main cast like gang from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and most of the movie has them escaping or trying to negotiate poorly.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jul 30, 2014 2:30:49 GMT -5
The thing I hate about the movie is the neighbours. They all want to kill the family cause Ethan Hawke sold them their secruity systems.
It's just ... Argh how do I explain this... That's just f***ing stupid. They are begrudging this family for providing them a service that would I guess be pretty high demand in this world.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 30, 2014 2:44:08 GMT -5
Very true. Hell, one of my favorite movies is Varsity Blues; and that movie is objectively terrible. SO enjoyable though. Reminds me of how Void loves the Fast and the Furious series, and still has no problem laughing his ass off with me at how absurd it all really is. Or me and the Sgt. Pepper film. Evil Aerosmith is unintended comedy gold.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 2:44:16 GMT -5
The Purge feels like the bastard child of Funny Games only more pretentious. I agree that it should have gone dark comedy route and instead of a family terrorized, make the main cast like gang from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and most of the movie has them escaping or trying to negotiate poorly. Funny Games has a point where with absolutely no set up one of the villains rewinds the movie when everything's going south for them. It wins the pretension contest.
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Post by Danimal on Jul 30, 2014 3:00:27 GMT -5
The premise is obviously unrealistic but he ranted-on way too much and I don't have a problem with the movie taking the concept seriously as a horror-thriller rather than being a comedy or satire. I love Equilibrium and the premise for that is plenty silly. The Purge was meh but that's much more because of execution rather than the concept.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 30, 2014 6:03:19 GMT -5
This move was entertainingly dogshit.
He also skipped out on a couple of the more annoying sections of it. Like, how did the f***ing kid know the code? How could the daughter's boyfriend possibly think that murdering her dad was going to let them be together? So many questions. This film was stupid.
Decent review though.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 30, 2014 6:05:50 GMT -5
Since no one said it yet
The fact that Doug got the original Pinky and The Brain to do that ending was just MAGICAL
I about fell off my Chair at that moment I was laughing so hard.
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