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Post by Danimal on Sept 3, 2014 13:05:20 GMT -5
"Kenny Trill" or "Kenny Thrill"? What is a 'Trill'? I hope he isn't letting success go to his head like Manziel did.
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Post by Ganon83 on Sept 3, 2014 14:14:17 GMT -5
I am going to be covering football for my college paper this year (I go to Salisbury University in east Maryland, a division III school). It's my first time covering any kind of sport for anything outside of motorsports for websites. Anybody have any advice?
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 3, 2014 16:41:18 GMT -5
You know. With the changes to the system to determine a champ and everything, would have been a nice time for one more change. Elimination of in season polls until at least the end of week 4.
Let teams finish their OOC schedules and then you know what teams/conferences are for real instead of just going by past years biases (looking at you SEC). Everyone knows once you are up near the top you don't plummet, you fall down the polls in stages. IDK just makes more sense to me to look at a partial body of work before you start sticking numbers next to teams names. Sorry I don't buy A&M as the 9th best team in the nation after just one game against a team that played the OLE defense. ( no offense to A&M fans on here).
Example of this Bias, lets say the Ducks go out and dominate Sparty this weekend. Do you honestly think there would be any scenario that would put them ahead of Bama or Fla St. if they both win? No it'll just be "the Big 10 sucks" excuse. A&M and S. Carolina run up and down the field like arena football and it's not "holy shit those defenses suck", it's "omg look at those elite offenses".
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 3, 2014 18:44:35 GMT -5
You know. With the changes to the system to determine a champ and everything, would have been a nice time for one more change. Elimination of in season polls until at least the end of week 4. Let teams finish their OOC schedules and then you know what teams/conferences are for real instead of just going by past years biases (looking at you SEC). Everyone knows once you are up near the top you don't plummet, you fall down the polls in stages. IDK just makes more sense to me to look at a partial body of work before you start sticking numbers next to teams names. Sorry I don't buy A&M as the 9th best team in the nation after just one game against a team that played the OLE defense. ( no offense to A&M fans on here). Example of this Bias, lets say the Ducks go out and dominate Sparty this weekend. Do you honestly think there would be any scenario that would put them ahead of Bama or Fla St. if they both win? No it'll just be "the Big 10 sucks" excuse. A&M and S. Carolina run up and down the field like arena football and it's not "holy shit those defenses suck", it's "omg look at those elite offenses". Finish OOC...then no polls till the end of the season. I like that acutally.
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Post by Waffel113 on Sept 3, 2014 18:58:21 GMT -5
Y'know, I shouldn't be amused that Carolina and TA&M swapped rankings, and yet here I am all the same. Maybe it's one of those laugh to keep from crying things?
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 3, 2014 19:03:14 GMT -5
Y'know, I shouldn't be amused that Carolina and TA&M swapped rankings, and yet here I am all the same. Maybe it's one of those laugh to keep from crying things? Eh, SCAR can recover since they are in the East. Remember, TAMU still has both bama schools, LSU, and the Wildcard Miss schools.
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Post by andrew8798 on Sept 3, 2014 19:05:43 GMT -5
Florida and Idaho won't reschedule their canceled game from over the weekend this year, and both squads will now play 11-game schedules during the regular season.
Instead, the schools have agreed to make up the game in 2017, and the Gators will honor their $975,000 guarantee to Idaho by February 1, 2015.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 3, 2014 19:08:13 GMT -5
Florida and Idaho won't reschedule their canceled game from over the weekend this year, and both squads will now play 11-game schedules during the regular season. Instead, the schools have agreed to make up the game in 2017, and the Gators will honor their $975,000 guarantee to Idaho by February 1, 2015. Muschamp will now count that game towards anyone's future suspensions.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 3, 2014 19:10:59 GMT -5
You know. With the changes to the system to determine a champ and everything, would have been a nice time for one more change. Elimination of in season polls until at least the end of week 4. Let teams finish their OOC schedules and then you know what teams/conferences are for real instead of just going by past years biases (looking at you SEC). Everyone knows once you are up near the top you don't plummet, you fall down the polls in stages. IDK just makes more sense to me to look at a partial body of work before you start sticking numbers next to teams names. Sorry I don't buy A&M as the 9th best team in the nation after just one game against a team that played the OLE defense. ( no offense to A&M fans on here). Example of this Bias, lets say the Ducks go out and dominate Sparty this weekend. Do you honestly think there would be any scenario that would put them ahead of Bama or Fla St. if they both win? No it'll just be "the Big 10 sucks" excuse. A&M and S. Carolina run up and down the field like arena football and it's not "holy shit those defenses suck", it's "omg look at those elite offenses". That was one of the good things about the BCS, it waited until well within the season to release it's first rankings. It still was suspect to the asinine coaches poll, but at least teams played before the first rankings came out.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 3, 2014 19:23:42 GMT -5
You know. With the changes to the system to determine a champ and everything, would have been a nice time for one more change. Elimination of in season polls until at least the end of week 4. Let teams finish their OOC schedules and then you know what teams/conferences are for real instead of just going by past years biases (looking at you SEC). Everyone knows once you are up near the top you don't plummet, you fall down the polls in stages. IDK just makes more sense to me to look at a partial body of work before you start sticking numbers next to teams names. Sorry I don't buy A&M as the 9th best team in the nation after just one game against a team that played the OLE defense. ( no offense to A&M fans on here). Example of this Bias, lets say the Ducks go out and dominate Sparty this weekend. Do you honestly think there would be any scenario that would put them ahead of Bama or Fla St. if they both win? No it'll just be "the Big 10 sucks" excuse. A&M and S. Carolina run up and down the field like arena football and it's not "holy shit those defenses suck", it's "omg look at those elite offenses". That was one of the good things about the BCS, it waited until well within the season to release it's first rankings. It still was suspect to the asinine coaches poll, but at least teams played before the first rankings came out. It was still 2/3rds of the weekly polls though. Also the stat heads knew the formulas so they pretty much knew the computer rankings already. Just seems like once you are up high in the rankings it's next to impossible to kick you out. Seriously how is S.Carolina ranked after that. Navy could theoretically run the table from here on out and wouldn't get in the top 25 for another 6 weeks if that, even though they were making Ohio St. sweat for a good portion of the game. We'll see how this whole thing plays out this year, just hopeful that the polls don't play too much into it and common sense wins out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 19:30:41 GMT -5
"Kenny Trill" or "Kenny Thrill"? What is a 'Trill'?
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Post by ICBM on Sept 3, 2014 19:57:40 GMT -5
I hate the Kenny trill thing.
Rankings. I am stubborn and hold onto things I love fiercely. Polls are a relevant expression of the water temp in CFB and I have always loved them. I resent some of the things that result from them, but I want them around. The selection committee will be hard pressed to please even a majority. But that just like polls, are part of why we have made CFB as huge as it has become. The water cooler talk is what drove up demand. The BCS was great for that and the playoff will be better. Controversy is a good thing
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 3, 2014 20:13:03 GMT -5
I hate the Kenny trill thing. Rankings. I am stubborn and hold onto things I love fiercely. Polls are a relevant expression of the water temp in CFB and I have always loved them. I resent some of the things that result from them, but I want them around. The selection committee will be hard pressed to please even a majority. But that just like polls, are part of why we have made CFB as huge as it has become. The water cooler talk is what drove up demand. The BCS was great for that and the playoff will be better. Controversy is a good thing Polls themselves aren't the problem. The problem is who does them. Giving coaches a vote is like putting inmates on the parole board. When left to their own devices, coaches will vote in ways that suit their own interests, and with revenue sharing in conferences being what it is, collusion occurring shouldn't be surprising. It also relies on the premise that coaches are going to be well versed enough in enough FBS games to make a really informed decision, which is sort of laughable when you consider how much of their time they spend prepping. Giving the AP a vote was slightly better, although I oppose it in ideological grounds. A lot of reporters are homers for their team, and while they may not be apparently biased in their stories, polls are often a different matter because they see these teams all the time, and local media outlets don't want to anger a college program if it came out that they voted against them to get a better seed. The committee was the best of both possible worlds, except that a lot of people on it were just as big of homers, at best, or completely unaware of what was going on in college football, at worst. It's not really about pleasing everyone as much as it is about removing the possibility of gaming the system, which was extremely easy and completely without penalty.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 3, 2014 20:35:11 GMT -5
I am going to be covering football for my college paper this year (I go to Salisbury University in east Maryland, a division III school). It's my first time covering any kind of sport for anything outside of motorsports for websites. Anybody have any advice? I didn't even know anyone on this board went there. I just took a campus visit there yesterday (probably going in January pending on how the next 3 months goes). But, for covering the sport, you're going to want to have knowledge of the team on terms of the players, coaches, and games themselves. I recommend getting to talking to the coaches during the week and after games to discuss the season, perhaps even interview some of the players. When you're covering the actual Saturday games themselves be sure to be able to summarize the events of the game from start to finish, list stats from notable players (like QB, RB, and WR) and basically the way I would write about each event in the season, I'd write it like it was a story, keeps the readers interested and looks good later on.
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Post by Danimal on Sept 3, 2014 20:42:26 GMT -5
I don't mind early the polls so much now that they aren't part of deciding who plays for it all. Maybe the committee will be influenced by them a little but the whole idea of the committee was that they'd look past the bias of the people polls and limitations of computer formulas to get down to who earned it more and is playing the best ball.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 3, 2014 21:05:38 GMT -5
Giving the AP a vote was slightly better, although I oppose it in ideological grounds. A lot of reporters are homers for their team, and while they may not be apparently biased in their stories, polls are often a different matter because they see these teams all the time, and local media outlets don't want to anger a college program if it came out that they voted against them to get a better seed. The problem with that is a lot of them didn't even watch highlights, they saw the score and voted that way. Hell some of them even admitted that they punished Oklahoma State in 2011 because they didn't shut out the Sooners, granted their poll didn't factor into the BCS.
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Post by andrew8798 on Sept 3, 2014 21:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 21:18:44 GMT -5
Muschamp sucks.
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Post by MGH on Sept 3, 2014 21:20:59 GMT -5
He's going to be fired soon for a reason.
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Post by andrew8798 on Sept 3, 2014 21:23:39 GMT -5
Should have be fired after last year
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