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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:22:42 GMT -5
A convicted criminal turned pro-wrestler is EXACTLY what this situation needs. On so many levels... Better than the Harris brothers I suppose...
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 14, 2014 14:45:49 GMT -5
A convicted criminal turned pro-wrestler is EXACTLY what this situation needs. On so many levels... For his sake I hope he wears those sharp suits he wears on TV. Otherwise, the cops will just see a large, muscular black man with prominent prison tats protesting. He will be the first one that they shoot with rubber (hopefully) bullets when the cops get too nervous again.
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Post by jagilki on Aug 14, 2014 14:46:55 GMT -5
Swerve, he's going to side with the cops.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 14, 2014 14:48:39 GMT -5
Swerve, he's going to side with the cops. They can stop that crap now. They "fired" Russo again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:54:19 GMT -5
I'm not sure MVP's exactly the guy I want talking about this situation. Mainly because just what... last week he was making jokes on Impact about police brutality and having the cops "hand out chokeholds" to the fans, or something similar.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 14, 2014 14:54:37 GMT -5
I know this is a serious topic, but I cannot see the thread title without thinking this is some kind of dark take on the Fresh Prince of Bel Air theme.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 14:57:40 GMT -5
What you actually need to do is to re-evaluate gun control.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 14, 2014 14:58:36 GMT -5
The issue I take with the Law Enforcement in this reoccurring trend is their "we have to protect our own" mentality. A cop uses excessive force and then the rest of the department drag their feet with actually doing something about it because of the stigma of whistle blowing. What you actually need to do is to re-evaluate gun control. In this one instance, I will argue that gun control itself isn't particular the issue. This was an Officer of the law who committed the deed, not a citizen who was a gun owner.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Aug 14, 2014 17:02:54 GMT -5
I live about 30 minutes from Ferguson and I am sickened and shocked that something like this is happening this close to where I live. What is going on reflects badly on the entire community. As somebody mentioned earlier, most of the people rioting aren't even from Ferguson. The first night there was riots 32 people were arrested and almost 2/3 of them weren't from Ferguson. Some were from North St. Louis City, some were from Illinois and 5 of them were from Texas. I don't know what happened for sure because I've heard two different stories but all I know is what has happened in Ferguson since then is completely wrong.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 14, 2014 17:25:34 GMT -5
What you actually need to do is to re-evaluate gun control. Oh, you can get there, but there are at least three issues you need to address head on before you get there. I wanna expand, but I'm afraid I'll break some of the rules
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Post by Lila on Aug 14, 2014 17:55:50 GMT -5
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Aug 14, 2014 18:23:38 GMT -5
The issue I take with the Law Enforcement in this reoccurring trend is their "we have to protect our own" mentality. A cop uses excessive force and then the rest of the department drag their feet with actually doing something about it because of the stigma of whistle blowing. What you actually need to do is to re-evaluate gun control. In this one instance, I will argue that gun control itself isn't particular the issue. This was an Officer of the law who committed the deed, not a citizen who was a gun owner. Well, that and I think that the highest ups in the department know that a wrongful death lawsuit is forthcoming if it looks like the officer acted inappropriately. Just surreal recognizing places I used to go in my childhood covered in tear gas and protestors. The looting and violence against police is bad, but consider how small of a percentage of people are doing that versus those peacefully protesting. I think most rational people understand this. The police response has been absolutely unfathomable. It's like the Bill of Rights was suspended in Ferguson for some reason. Hopefully the intervention by higher ups in the state will quell the escalation.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 15, 2014 20:31:16 GMT -5
I'm reopening this, and I want it to stay on subject instead of personal issues with one another. I see that again, that person's getting a vacation.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 15, 2014 20:53:47 GMT -5
Well today we got the release of the officers name as well as the camera footage from the store the victim robbed. However the story doesn't add up and the Ferguson officers seem like they are covering something. It was reported that a second officer pull in right after the shooting. The story goes that one officer that did the shooting was in the area. The other came from the Store that called in the robbery. Keep in mind no cash was involved. Now the time frame is four mins. What I can't figure out is how in four mins this victim went from alive to dead. Got from this store to an apartment complex that fast. This was not a small man we are talking about and I don't know a convent store so close to the apartments complex he was shot at.
The story also said the officer only told him to get off the street. Not stopping to question the robbery. How come in a day shy of a week we are hearing about the second officer on the scene? We had people witnessed this and speak on it, none of them said someone else was there. Just seems shady.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 21:44:03 GMT -5
Well today we got the release of the officers name as well as the camera footage from the store the victim robbed. However the story doesn't add up and the Ferguson officers seem like they are covering something. It was reported that a second officer pull in right after the shooting. The story goes that one officer that did the shooting was in the area. The other came from the Store that called in the robbery. Keep in mind no cash was involved. Now the time frame is four mins. What I can't figure out is how in four mins this victim went from alive to dead. Got from this store to an apartment complex that fast. This was not a small man we are talking about and I don't know a convent store so close to the apartments complex he was shot at. The story also said the officer only told him to get off the street. Not stopping to question the robbery. How come in a day shy of a week we are hearing about the second officer on the scene? We had people witnessed this and speak on it, none of them said someone else was there. Just seems shady. He also changed clothes/shoes and traveled from the store to his place then to wherever he was shot in 4 mins. We've got ourselves a genuine Kennedy assassination style conspiracy theory to work on here. Oswald couldn't be all the places this kid was supposed to have been.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 15, 2014 22:10:25 GMT -5
Well today we got the release of the officers name as well as the camera footage from the store the victim robbed. However the story doesn't add up and the Ferguson officers seem like they are covering something. It was reported that a second officer pull in right after the shooting. The story goes that one officer that did the shooting was in the area. The other came from the Store that called in the robbery. Keep in mind no cash was involved. Now the time frame is four mins. What I can't figure out is how in four mins this victim went from alive to dead. Got from this store to an apartment complex that fast. This was not a small man we are talking about and I don't know a convent store so close to the apartments complex he was shot at. The story also said the officer only told him to get off the street. Not stopping to question the robbery. How come in a day shy of a week we are hearing about the second officer on the scene? We had people witnessed this and speak on it, none of them said someone else was there. Just seems shady. He also changed clothes/shoes and traveled from the store to his place then to wherever he was shot in 4 mins. We've got ourselves a genuine Kennedy assassination style conspiracy theory to work on here. Oswald couldn't be all the places this kid was supposed to have been. Yeah there just a lot that doesn't add up. I feel like the police department is piecing together a story to cover something else up.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Aug 15, 2014 22:11:21 GMT -5
The friend of the guy who got shot, who was with him when they robbed the store said that the guy who got shot was the same guy who was in the pictures on the surveillance camera.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 16, 2014 1:25:03 GMT -5
The police chief from Ferguson, MO seems determined to make things worse. The difference in the tone of the protests between last night under the guy from the state police and the night before under the local cops is not only glaring, but it made the local police look really bad. Couple that with their history of how they treat minorities, the disparities in the police story of the actual shooting and the eyewitness accounts, the refusal of the local police to actually interview eyewitnesses, and now this and you cannot reach any other conclusion other than they are just engaging in character assassination of the victim of the shooting.
If the robbery played even the slightest role in the incident you can bet that would have been mentioned in the original story put out by the local cops. If the robbery played even the slightest role the chief would not have said that it did not play a role in the stop (before he changed his story and said that it did). Seriously, it is almost as if the chief is bucking for getting stripped of his title.
I think that one of the signs held by a protester said it best. The sign said that the Ferguson Police Dept needs to hire a better script writer.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 16, 2014 1:36:43 GMT -5
It's really sad that the place you were born and raised in is turning out this way and honestly, other than that, I have not much to say otherwise because this really is a story that I have tried to avoid for my sanity.
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Post by Ganon83 on Aug 16, 2014 1:44:37 GMT -5
Like I posted earlier in this thread, violence is never the solution to violence. I feel horrible for the people out there in the area because the vast majority of people resorting to violence/looting are just taking advantage of the situation, and some aren't even from the area (With 80%-90% of them not even being from Ferguson)
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