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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 21, 2014 12:24:23 GMT -5
Nor do you in the UK But I would hope in both countries that making a racist slur at work is enough to get SOME degree of punishment. Has the social media guy faced any yet? He may have. But since this Cody person is not an on camera performer, WWE won't make any type of press release on it. If another wrestler or announcer or other "talent" had made the racist comment, the resulting disciplinary action would be already spread through the news.
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 21, 2014 12:28:14 GMT -5
Nor do you in the UK But I would hope in both countries that making a racist slur at work is enough to get SOME degree of punishment. Has the social media guy faced any yet? Like was said earlier no one knows and honestly I doubt we will ever know, unless he ends up getting let go. If he gets suspended or fined or something of that sort, I doubt that ever gets out. Sad part is, that say a wrestler gets a wellness hit, that's published. I believe that's part of the wellness policy or I imagine it is. When it comes to general disciplining of "non talent" they will probably end up getting sued by the guy if they come out and say "yeah we suspended the guy without pay for 2 weeks" or something along those lines. Whole thing about damaging future earnings. It's why in the U.S. if a former employees new prospective employer calls to check on their work status there, the only LEGAL thing you can say is if they worked there or not and if you would hire them back. Legally you aren't allowed to say any more than that (g/l proving your former boss buried you but that's besides the point). Coming out and saying "yeah we suspended/fired his racist ass" in a public statement isn't the best business decision. Also take into account one is an employee and one is an "independent contractor" (not this thread on this guys please), so public disclosure on those 2 distinctions are probably very different.
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Post by Supercheese on Aug 21, 2014 12:41:20 GMT -5
Nor do you in the UK But I would hope in both countries that making a racist slur at work is enough to get SOME degree of punishment. Has the social media guy faced any yet? Like was said earlier no one knows and honestly I doubt we will ever know, unless he ends up getting let go. If he gets suspended or fined or something of that sort, I doubt that ever gets out. Sad part is, that say a wrestler gets a wellness hit, that's published. I believe that's part of the wellness policy or I imagine it is. When it comes to general disciplining of "non talent" they will probably end up getting sued by the guy if they come out and say "yeah we suspended the guy without pay for 2 weeks" or something along those lines. Whole thing about damaging future earnings. It's why in the U.S. if a former employees new prospective employer calls to check on their work status there, the only LEGAL thing you can say is if they worked there or not and if you would hire them back. Legally you aren't allowed to say any more than that (g/l proving your former boss buried you but that's besides the point). Coming out and saying "yeah we suspended/fired his racist ass" in a public statement isn't the best business decision. Also take into account one is an employee and one is an "independent contractor" (not this thread on this guys please), so public disclosure on those 2 distinctions are probably very different. With every passing post you sound more and more like a racist.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2014 12:48:37 GMT -5
Like was said earlier no one knows and honestly I doubt we will ever know, unless he ends up getting let go. If he gets suspended or fined or something of that sort, I doubt that ever gets out. Sad part is, that say a wrestler gets a wellness hit, that's published. I believe that's part of the wellness policy or I imagine it is. When it comes to general disciplining of "non talent" they will probably end up getting sued by the guy if they come out and say "yeah we suspended the guy without pay for 2 weeks" or something along those lines. Whole thing about damaging future earnings. It's why in the U.S. if a former employees new prospective employer calls to check on their work status there, the only LEGAL thing you can say is if they worked there or not and if you would hire them back. Legally you aren't allowed to say any more than that (g/l proving your former boss buried you but that's besides the point). Coming out and saying "yeah we suspended/fired his racist ass" in a public statement isn't the best business decision. Also take into account one is an employee and one is an "independent contractor" (not this thread on this guys please), so public disclosure on those 2 distinctions are probably very different. With every passing post you sound more and more like a racist. Wow. Accusing people of racism when there is none is as bad as actual acts of racism.
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Post by Supercheese on Aug 21, 2014 12:50:51 GMT -5
With every passing post you sound more and more like a racist. Wow. Accusing people of racism when there is none is as bad as actual acts of racism. Defending a racist at every turn is pretty poor, imo. The poster has basically suggested that slapping someone is worse than racism.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 21, 2014 12:55:36 GMT -5
Wow. Accusing people of racism when there is none is as bad as actual acts of racism. Defending a racist at every turn is pretty poor, imo. He's not defending racism. What part of that you're not getting? Dude is explaining how things work in corporate America. This isn't Europe, Canada, South America, etc. Rules are different here. Just like how they are elsewhere in the world. You can't go around assaulting people not matter the provocation without ramifications.
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 21, 2014 12:55:57 GMT -5
Like was said earlier no one knows and honestly I doubt we will ever know, unless he ends up getting let go. If he gets suspended or fined or something of that sort, I doubt that ever gets out. Sad part is, that say a wrestler gets a wellness hit, that's published. I believe that's part of the wellness policy or I imagine it is. When it comes to general disciplining of "non talent" they will probably end up getting sued by the guy if they come out and say "yeah we suspended the guy without pay for 2 weeks" or something along those lines. Whole thing about damaging future earnings. It's why in the U.S. if a former employees new prospective employer calls to check on their work status there, the only LEGAL thing you can say is if they worked there or not and if you would hire them back. Legally you aren't allowed to say any more than that (g/l proving your former boss buried you but that's besides the point). Coming out and saying "yeah we suspended/fired his racist ass" in a public statement isn't the best business decision. Also take into account one is an employee and one is an "independent contractor" (not this thread on this guys please), so public disclosure on those 2 distinctions are probably very different. With every passing post you sound more and more like a racist. Are you f***in serious. Where in this post did I even remotely come across as a racist. Please tell me where I have defended this asshole, or defended racism. I have done 3 things. Called this guy out for being an asshole numerous times. Condemned Del Rio for hitting the guy and stating reasons why. Stating things as it relates to employment law. Please, enlighten me on where I have supported this racist. I'll wait here.
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Post by bluemeii on Aug 21, 2014 13:07:53 GMT -5
Wow. Accusing people of racism when there is none is as bad as actual acts of racism. Defending a racist at every turn is pretty poor, imo. The poster has basically suggested that slapping someone is worse than racism. Again please show me where I have defended this racist or his comments. I have stated that in this country you can say whatever it is you want to say whenever you want short of threatening someone. I have also stated that with the freedom to say what you want is also the responsibility to deal with the repercussions of what you say. That being said a racist comment, however vile it may be, is in no way grounds for assault, especially in the workplace or at home. There are other avenues to take to remedy that without taking it in your own hands in 2014. That's the whole point in my participation in this thread. It just appears trying to have a discussion about that falls short on certain individuals, so they just lob baseless comments to justify their position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 13:10:44 GMT -5
Knock it off with the personal accusations.
You can discuss racism and the story at hand without getting personal.
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Post by bob on Sept 8, 2014 0:01:15 GMT -5
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 8, 2014 11:05:39 GMT -5
Covered in another thread and once again I'll state there is absolutely no proof that he took WWE to court and won. More than likely he is following the grand lucha tradition of not giving a f*** and doing what he wants.
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 8, 2014 11:22:42 GMT -5
If it was a court case, surely it would be traceable somewhere? Grand Lucha Tradition of doing what the f*** he wants sounds more plausible.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Sept 8, 2014 11:26:01 GMT -5
Covered in another thread and once again I'll state there is absolutely no proof that he took WWE to court and won. More than likely he is following the grand lucha tradition of not giving a f*** and doing what he wants. Yea, I have trouble believing that they made it to court that fast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2014 11:52:43 GMT -5
Seems weird to consider myself a WWE fan and yet still love it in times like this when a guy like Del Rio can tell them to go f*** themselves with their arbitrary stipulations they put on people.
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Post by ninjachick on Sept 8, 2014 12:34:18 GMT -5
So basically some of you are calling Alberto a liar? I just want to get that clear. I don't care if he did or didn't get the cause thrown out. He's wrestling next Sunday and doesn't give a f*** either way. Talk about someone who's passionate about wrestling. Hell, he was trying to wrestle at TripleMania just mere days after he was fired.
My question is for the doubters. IF Alberto didn't get the clause thrown out. Why hasn't wwe done anything. He's publicly said it was thrown out and he's free to wrestle ANYWHERE he wants. He's also taking bookings in the U.S. where he initially had that one year no compete.
It took wwe a few days to impose that 1 year no compete. Why is it so "hard to believe" that Alberto got his clause thrown out? No one has any idea on how fast the court system worked. His lawyers have been on it since he received his termination letter a few days after his firing. That's plenty of time to get the clause thrown out.
I'm just trying to understand why some are finding it hard to believe. I mean he's legit wrestling next Sunday which if still imposed, would go against his 90day no compete.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 8, 2014 12:35:40 GMT -5
Seems weird to consider myself a WWE fan and yet still love it in times like this when a guy like Del Rio can tell them to go f*** themselves with their arbitrary stipulations they put on people. It was arbitrary to use the word "arbitrary" but there's nothing arbitrary about WWE and their contracts. Pretty standard fare globally but especially in America.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Sept 8, 2014 12:36:42 GMT -5
I think that at this point the WWE has figured out that sending alberto to court will not do them any favors and decided to just forget about it.
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Post by ninjachick on Sept 8, 2014 12:47:17 GMT -5
I think that at this point the WWE has figured out that sending alberto to court will not do them any favors and decided to just forget about it. That's pretty much what I said. You just shortened it LoL.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 8, 2014 12:54:18 GMT -5
Them not pursuing anything is not congruous with a case going to court and being dismissed is what people are saying.
Either way, good for him.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 8, 2014 12:58:47 GMT -5
Gee, what do ya know, straight from PWInsider:
Just to clear the air on rumors making the rounds, neither CM Punk nor Alberto Del Rio have filed lawsuits against WWE, much less beaten them in court. If anyone actually believes that either filed and won a lawsuit in no time flat obviously has never paid attention to how the legal system works in the United States - and I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
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