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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 22, 2014 1:51:30 GMT -5
I'm saying I feel bad for Rey not doing anything in general. I mentioned him wrestling but the fact remains that he can do more than that. Spanish announcing, a manager to another superstar, GM, just something that he isn't sitting on the shelf. That's ridiculous. The WWE probably has already offered Mysterio another position, as they've already had him doing Spanish announcing for a while. The fact that Mysterio is trying to leave to go to AAA means he likely turned down any non-wrestling role WWE offered him, because he thinks he can still go in the ring. They're the bad guys because they're keeping him prisoner when he doesn't want to be there, throwing away money to keep him under their thumb despite the fact that they're in cost cutting mode, and will likely cut a few jobs to free up the funds necessary for Rey's hefty contract, a contract that he again, wants out of. I already said that I can see why people would be upset at the WWE for not letting him go. I'm saying it makes sense that they don't want him wrestling in their ring anymore. Yep. As usual, what BigWill said. Also, as I'm sure nobody would agree with this since everyone hates corporations, there's a particular reason people sign contracts. It's not like this was a secret addendum that he didn't know about. They reserve the right because they invested the time and money to make him the millionaire he is today. That's a tiny reason why the company has leverage.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Aug 22, 2014 2:25:03 GMT -5
That part I don't know. If the WWE, to put it in a pro sports parlance, picked up the "team" option on Rey's deal, then would they not be obligated to go along with the existing framework of his deal (including paying whatever the existing downside was)? Merchandise. Rey's always been great at shifting it, and with him sitting at home, all they have to do is pay his downside, which is never a great deal for anyone, and watch the mask/toy/etc. money come in. That: A. Makes perfect sense and B. Is totally scummy. Hard not to feel for Rey on this one.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 22, 2014 2:29:10 GMT -5
He wants to wrestle, WWE doesn't want him to. WWE also makes a shit ton of money off of Rey that Rey could get 100% of if he was free and clear. I dont think he can wrestle anymore. Every time he wrestles he seems to get injured unless he is just faking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 2:44:34 GMT -5
Maybe WWE is trying to protect Rey from himself by literally paying him not to wrestle anymore.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 22, 2014 2:49:56 GMT -5
Maybe WWE is trying to protect Rey from himself by literally paying him not to wrestle anymore. Sounds noble of them. Stupid, but noble. They are literally throwing money away. Plus I'm worried about how it would negatively affect other wrestlers. I don't like the possibility that someone would get fired just so that WWE can pay Rey not to wrestle.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 22, 2014 3:16:46 GMT -5
It could be any number of things.
Maybe Rey realizes that he's done everything he ever will in WWE and wants to go someplace else instead of spinning his wheels until he retires. Maybe he just wants to go hang out with his friends in AAA instead of in a locker room filled with increasingly unfamiliar faces.
In AAA, he'd almost certainly be part of a stable, and wrestle mostly in multi-man matches that would allow for him *not* need surgery a few times a year. In WWE multi-man matches are mid-feud gimmicks. In AAA, they're more high profile.
As for WWE not letting him go, it's because Rey's merch is an easy and reliable source of income. His masks, t-shirts, toys, and other bric-a-brac bring in a TON of cash, most of which goes directly into the WWE's pockets.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 22, 2014 8:01:36 GMT -5
I think Rey just realizes that he's near the end of his career and in AAA he can write his own ticket. He can wrestle when he wants, how he wants, not have to worry about things like wellness or the hundreds of other political problems that working for the WWE can potentially generate. Basically it's an easy gig to make some money before he wraps things up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 8:15:47 GMT -5
Maybe WWE is trying to protect Rey from himself by literally paying him not to wrestle anymore. Sounds noble of them. Stupid, but noble. They are literally throwing money away. Plus I'm worried about how it would negatively affect other wrestlers. I don't like the possibility that someone would get fired just so that WWE can pay Rey not to wrestle. I doubt Mysterio is making much sitting at home since many wrestlers have constantly stated you don't really make any money sitting at home. It seems like most wrestlers are paid by the show, bonuses if they get to main event a PPV, bonus of the PPV gate and buyrates, bonus on video game royalties, merch, etc. It sounds a lot like a pay structure of a car salesman. A car salesman makes a minimum of 2000 bucks a month if he/she cannot sell over 2000 dollars of commission, but when they get over 2000 dollars of commission you get what you earn. Plus I heard Rey Mysterio isn't cashing in his cheques and WWE already released Del Rio so that's one big money contract that'll transfer to someone else or keep jobs of so many low end wrestlers and Alex Riley.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 22, 2014 8:29:43 GMT -5
I don't see why WWE wouldn't just let him go. He doesn't want to be there. They're cutting costs and Rey probably makes more than all of the Red Endeavoring victims (plus Ricardo and possibly Del Rio) combined. And I assume that since Rey wants out of his contract, that WWE has no obligation to pay his downside (correct me if I'm wrong). I'd like to believe that if a wrestler asks for his release, he's forfeiting whatever money is left to be paid to him, but I don't exactly how the contract lingo works.
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Post by ronin705 on Aug 22, 2014 18:21:02 GMT -5
Rey is the latino Kurt Angle: Determined to keep going no matter how far past his prime he is.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 22, 2014 19:10:34 GMT -5
As well as the merchandising money being a factor, I suspect he knows he has one, maybe two matches left in him and would like to go out on his terms and put over a star of his choosing, something he would never get to do in the WWE. He'll also be doing AAA and his buddy Konnan a huge favour should he be able to get free, his presence would be a huge coup for them at a time when they're trying to increase their presence in the USA.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 22, 2014 19:55:49 GMT -5
As big a joke as they've been, I'm sure the WWE doesn't want Rey showing up in TNA (or Jarrett's potential promotion) as well.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 22:45:32 GMT -5
Rumor is Rey would fail a drug test on purpose just to get fired
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 22, 2014 22:53:33 GMT -5
Maybe he wants to be free to do whatever he wants to do with his wrestling career?
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 22, 2014 22:54:58 GMT -5
For rey it's going to be late reading those old observers his knees was mess up in 95
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Aug 22, 2014 23:32:13 GMT -5
Serious question, is rey still that big of a merchandise mover? Imcould believe it 2 years ago, but now that he hasnt been around from a long time, and when his wrestling style isnt asmexciting as before, I had my doubts that his merchandise compensats the salary that he receives.
But again, I will not be surprised if his masks sell a lot
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Aug 23, 2014 8:12:31 GMT -5
I don't see why WWE wouldn't just let him go. He doesn't want to be there. They're cutting costs and Rey probably makes more than all of the Red Endeavoring victims (plus Ricardo and possibly Del Rio) combined. And I assume that since Rey wants out of his contract, that WWE has no obligation to pay his downside (correct me if I'm wrong). I'd like to believe that if a wrestler asks for his release, he's forfeiting whatever money is left to be paid to him, but I don't exactly how the contract lingo works. That's how I thought it was too. Asking for your release is like handing in your notice that you no longer wish to work there. But you are forfeiting your remaining pay. If WWE want to release you from your contract they have to pay the remainder or a sum of the remainder of your contract, wrestlers still get paid for the 90 day non compete timespan. If someone asks for their release, they probably are still under the non compete unless they leave due to contract expiry. Everyone's contracts probably have little add-ons different from the rest. After twelve years as a upper to main event talent, Mysterio is probably on a nice mid-six figure downside guarantee, on a good year with TV, PPV, house shows, merchandise and royalties, probably makes over a million a year. Depending on his expenses and lifestyle, it could certainly be liveable on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 8:19:39 GMT -5
He wants to wrestle, WWE doesn't want him to. WWE also makes a shit ton of money off of Rey that Rey could get 100% of if he was free and clear. I dont think he can wrestle anymore. Every time he wrestles he seems to get injured unless he is just faking. Everyone knows that except Rey. That's the problem. Expect to see Rey wrestling again the INSTANT this contract is over.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 23, 2014 8:27:02 GMT -5
Should keep him for Spanish-language PR
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Post by fw91 on Aug 23, 2014 9:42:24 GMT -5
My question is will Rey blacklist himself from the WWE when this is over?
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